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Re: jefjef

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:46 am
by ronsizzle
the.killing.44 wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:was it king sam? or samuel812?

Lol, just thought of the sam-sam thing. king sam



well, king sam is a great guy. i could never yell at him like i do most mods that suck.

but as much as i like the guy, this was a bad f*ck up!! cc owes the guy points. period. maybe king sam should join a bunch of jef jefs games, and lose intentionally. that would be one way to fix this. an easy way too.

JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 1:53 am
by BoganGod
After the rather monumental screw up by Team CC. =D> =D> =D> =D> I think the only fair way to resolve this is to dissolve all the games he was kicked from, and making them points neutral. That way no one loses or wins points from the mods eye sight issues. Since I understand he can not be reinstated into those games, dissolving the games and making them points neutral seems like the only fair way to resolve this.

Team CC a public apology is required here!, and a some visible form of contrite contribution to all wronged parties would be super. I understand people make mistakes hence me not calling for the head of the person responsible, though a public apology from them would go along way towards restoring some respect for the mods and admin. It seems that some people in power have a desire to remove all colorful characters from CC, but this went way beyond all previous stuff ups and brain farts from management. Management hang your head in shame.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:07 am
by nietzsche
I don't know anything about it but I propose we forum-ban the mods for a weak.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:16 am
by ronsizzle
they should just give us flame wars back.

we would all stay there, and flame each other.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:22 am
by BoganGod
People make mistakes. Unfortunately this mistake has impacted on a lot of people. I think a public apology would go a long way to making things right.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:24 am
by ronsizzle
BoganGod wrote:People make mistakes. Unfortunately this mistake has impacted on a lot of people. I think a public apology would go a long way to making things right.



why does it have to be public? what if king sam pm'd every player who was involved? that would be ok by me.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:27 am
by angola
ronc8649 wrote:
BoganGod wrote:People make mistakes. Unfortunately this mistake has impacted on a lot of people. I think a public apology would go a long way to making things right.



why does it have to be public? what if king sam pm'd every player who was involved? that would be ok by me.


I concur.

I also concur with Bogan that the games should all be killed so no points are lost at all, because that is messed up.

I understand it was a mistake. We all make mistakes, but here at CC the powers that be have a chance to fix that mistake by making it so jefjef gets his points back.

I think that is fair.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:41 am
by lord voldemort
angola wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:
BoganGod wrote:People make mistakes. Unfortunately this mistake has impacted on a lot of people. I think a public apology would go a long way to making things right.



why does it have to be public? what if king sam pm'd every player who was involved? that would be ok by me.


I concur.

I also concur with Bogan that the games should all be killed so no points are lost at all, because that is messed up.

I understand it was a mistake. We all make mistakes, but here at CC the powers that be have a chance to fix that mistake by making it so jefjef gets his points back.

I think that is fair.

I agree that games were messed up. But only 1 game was lost at a direct result of this.
However there were games that were up for grabs that have been ruined one way or the other. Well the game has been shifted as a result of this. As for what cc does in response to these games is above me

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 2:55 am
by angola
lord voldemort wrote:
angola wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:
BoganGod wrote:People make mistakes. Unfortunately this mistake has impacted on a lot of people. I think a public apology would go a long way to making things right.



why does it have to be public? what if king sam pm'd every player who was involved? that would be ok by me.


I concur.

I also concur with Bogan that the games should all be killed so no points are lost at all, because that is messed up.

I understand it was a mistake. We all make mistakes, but here at CC the powers that be have a chance to fix that mistake by making it so jefjef gets his points back.

I think that is fair.

I agree that games were messed up. But only 1 game was lost at a direct result of this.
However there were games that were up for grabs that have been ruined one way or the other. Well the game has been shifted as a result of this. As for what cc does in response to these games is above me



I haven't gone through his games by any means, and I don't even care for his posts.

Unlike others I'm not going to rush off and blame every person that is in power at CC, frankly because I don't care and I'm not 12.

That said, what was done was wrong, even if by accident. So, a points reset should be figured out somehow.

Plus, if it isn't reset, then I'll have to sift through 900 threads about it and a bunch of other stupid shit about how someone was given a 24-hour ban and apparently their life is over.

Just sayin'

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:22 am
by MrPanzerGeneral
lord voldemort wrote:I agree that games were messed up. But only 1 game was lost at a direct result of this.
However there were games that were up for grabs that have been ruined one way or the other. Well the game has been shifted as a result of this. As for what cc does in response to these games is above me


5642051 - 5642048 - 5636458 - 5662036 3 of these 4 were wins to JefJef before the "mistake" .

That said, could I please please please become a CC Mod ???
I've even changed my avvie in anticipation.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:27 am
by angola
Is someone in your avatar getting fisted? That's awesome.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:02 am
by nietzsche
ronc8649 wrote:they should just give us flame wars back.

we would all stay there, and flame each other.


that's a good idea, why did flame wars dissapear it in the first place?

i don't even flame anybody just used to have fun reading.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:09 am
by ronsizzle
nietzsche wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:they should just give us flame wars back.

we would all stay there, and flame each other.


that's a good idea, why did flame wars dissapear it in the first place?

i don't even flame anybody just used to have fun reading.



also nietzsche, the community voted to bring it back. 70 percent of all votes went to bring it back. these were votes from people who didnt even go to that forum. the forums were so much more peaceful with it around.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:12 am
by MrPanzerGeneral
nietzsche wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:they should just give us flame wars back.

we would all stay there, and flame each other.


that's a good idea, why did flame wars dissapear it in the first place?

i don't even flame anybody just used to have fun reading.



To paraphrase what someone once said ( I forget who :) ) I think it's because:- "They are afraid that someone makes them evil, so they try to make good before them. But this is hypocrasy, not virtue."

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:29 am
by JOHNNYROCKET24
BoganGod wrote:People make mistakes. Unfortunately this mistake has impacted on a lot of people. I think a public apology would go a long way to making things right.

Im guessing 99.9% of the players here dont even know what your talking about. :roll: Someone got wrongfully banned and his games went neutral? Who is this player that we never even heard of ? Is there a link with his bust? How about some info instead of just whining on the forum.

thanks

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:55 am
by BoganGod
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:
BoganGod wrote:People make mistakes. Unfortunately this mistake has impacted on a lot of people. I think a public apology would go a long way to making things right.

Im guessing 99.9% of the players here dont even know what your talking about. :roll: Someone got wrongfully banned and his games went neutral? Who is this player that we never even heard of ? Is there a link with his bust? How about some info instead of just whining on the forum.

thanks


OK I'm lazy johnny. There are quite a few games so would be a long list. This affects quite a few players. Amazing about 1/2 the posts are actually on topic, though good to see another lame request for flame wars to be returned....

End of the day, mods screwed up, mods should fix it. No whining about how they can't do stuff, if it is hard for them to sift through games and reset points, well they might just think next time they get trigger happy and hit the overkill button.

Re: jefjef

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:49 am
by clapper011
ok guys, this was a very honest mistake, those buttons are very close together!... cut the noobie some slack huh? ;) ohh.. and keep the flames for another site k? :P

Re: jefjef

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:52 am
by colton24
BigBallinStalin wrote:Aham! Sorry for double posting, and for answering my own question:

Sorry for double post:

"Hi jefjef,

According to king sam, what happened was unintentional and he only meant for it to be a forum ban. It was quickly corrected afterward. The repercussion that happened is already irreversible nor can you be reinstated in any games.

In behalf of king sam, we do apologize for this and I hope you two can resolve this matter in some way.

Regards,
king achilles"


But before we pull out the torches and pitch forks and start a revolution, let's wait a bit to see what jefjef does. :mrgreen: I'm sure this can be resolved via PMs between the parties involved.


Damnit. I was lighting my torch.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:53 am
by clapper011
MrPanzerGeneral wrote:
nietzsche wrote:
ronc8649 wrote:they should just give us flame wars back.

we would all stay there, and flame each other.


that's a good idea, why did flame wars dissapear it in the first place?

i don't even flame anybody just used to have fun reading.



To paraphrase what someone once said ( I forget who :) ) I think it's because:- "They are afraid that someone makes them evil, so they try to make good before them. But this is hypocrasy, not virtue."

you 2 take it to one of the all too many "bring back flame wars" threads and stay on topic! :roll:

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 6:54 am
by clapper011
oh and what about those games that jefjef's team were already losing? :-s including this one? :
Game 5614273

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:22 am
by BoganGod
As I was saying Clapper points neutral is the only fair thing to do. There is a game where I'm against him, where he was had 5cards, and 1troop. Cards went to his partner.... Completely screwed the game. This has affected a lot of people. STILL WAITING FOR THE PUBLIC MY BAD from those "responsible" now that word is a contradiction in terms ain't it.....

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:25 am
by DAAAAAAANG
I'd like to see Team CC admit they were wrong and apologize.

clapper011 wrote:oh and what about those games that jefjef's team were already losing? :-s including this one? :
Game 5614273

There is a big difference between losing and lost.

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:35 am
by lord voldemort
FrancisBoyle wrote:I'd like to see Team CC admit they were wrong and apologize.

clapper011 wrote:oh and what about those games that jefjef's team were already losing? :-s including this one? :
Game 5614273

There is a big difference between losing and lost.

They have admitted there was a mistake, check that we have. And it has been said numerous time that King Sam will apologize if he hasnt already pm'd jef. Perhaps reading a thread or two before posting might serve you well ;)

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:53 am
by Ace Rimmer
What is going to happen to the games that are hosed because of a team CC mistake? I was in one game against jefjef and my partner and I already both submitted an eticket to have the game vacated because it's unwinnable now, where it was even before.

Jake

Re: JefJef - Games - Points - Neutral

Posted: Mon Sep 28, 2009 8:57 am
by DAAAAAAANG
lord voldemort wrote:
FrancisBoyle wrote:I'd like to see Team CC admit they were wrong and apologize.

clapper011 wrote:oh and what about those games that jefjef's team were already losing? :-s including this one? :
Game 5614273

There is a big difference between losing and lost.

They have admitted there was a mistake, check that we have. And it has been said numerous time that King Sam will apologize if he hasnt already pm'd jef. Perhaps reading a thread or two before posting might serve you well ;)


Edited. I'm going to let the E-Tickets sort this out.