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Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:00 pm
by thegreekdog
mpjh wrote:yep, typical law school class example is the case of hitting a piece of paper in another person's hand -- assault.


Yeah, but a car??? I mean, the driver is in the car... violence to the person is not imminent.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:09 pm
by mpjh
OK, you are a 104 lb 4' 9" young girl and the car is hit by a 210 lb 6' man screaming "Unlock that door, damnit." Clear case. Now work back to no sound and you get the same result. The whole case is decided on the reasonable belief of the young girl that she is in threat of imminent harm, not the intent of the man.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:20 pm
by Dublanous1
Dogs are living creatures, and there should be no difference in killing a human than a dog. killing a dog should be murder. Humans are animals too, and dogs can live, breathe, smell, see, and feel. They shouldn't be allowed to be mis-treated.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:24 pm
by Ulsfark
b.k. barunt wrote:If i give it a doggy biscuit is that bribery?


Honibaz


I'm sure assprowler would throw it a bone any time.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:45 pm
by thegreekdog
mpjh wrote:OK, you are a 104 lb 4' 9" young girl and the car is hit by a 210 lb 6' man screaming "Unlock that door, damnit." Clear case. Now work back to no sound and you get the same result. The whole case is decided on the reasonable belief of the young girl that she is in threat of imminent harm, not the intent of the man.


I guess it depends on the situation then. I wasn't looking to fight with you about it. I was just surprised that this sort of thing was in a California statute somewhere.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 2:56 pm
by Ulsfark
If the dog that was killed was a Greek dog, it would certainly be seen as a benefit to society.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:03 pm
by mpjh
That is racist.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 3:09 pm
by Rocketry
In my opinion - killing a dog is murder. It's murder, just like killing a human or a worm."Murderer" has a lot of negative conotations attached but it really can be a good thing. Remember the guy who nearly took out Hitler with the bonb in the breifcase?

Rocket.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Fri Jun 19, 2009 5:59 pm
by MeDeFe
mpjh wrote:OK, you are a 104 lb 4' 9" young girl and the car is hit by a 210 lb 6' man screaming "Unlock that door, damnit." Clear case. Now work back to no sound and you get the same result. The whole case is decided on the reasonable belief of the young girl that she is in threat of imminent harm, not the intent of the man.

What if the situation is that of a 210 lb 6' man sitting in the car and a 104 lb 4' 9" young girl hitting the car with a baseball bat screaming "I'm gonna wreck this fucking car, damnit!"?

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:57 pm
by jonesthecurl
I was once being seriously hassled by a police officer for no good reason. I pointed my finger at him and waggled it, saying something like "why don't you just leave us alone, you arse?". He told me that he could arrest me for assault as I had raised my hand to within striking distance of his face.
Surprisingly, in another occasion when a police officer did the pointy thing in my face, he was unimpressed by my relating the former episode to him and threatening him with a citizen's arrest.

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:45 am
by mpjh
You don't spend a lot of time on the street, do you?

Re: Is killing a dog Murder?

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 12:58 am
by apey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrlKG-OU8vI
careful what you do to an officer :lol: