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Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:45 pm
by cena-rules
hecter wrote:cena-rules wrote:this has been noted
any mod response???
Ya...
Night Strike wrote:Alright, I took a few minutes to look into that symbol and discussed it with a couple other mods. The symbol itself is a Buddhist symbol and was not meant to display Nazism or the negative connotations with it. I have asked her to consider changing it to something that wouldn't have those types of negativity, but that choice is up to her. In the meantime, I would suggest to everybody to take some time and look into the symbols of various world religions when you see something that could be taken offensively; you might learn something contrary to your original conclusion.
*apologises to NS*
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:46 pm
by stahrgazer
Nazi ensigns had a through and through image, so both versions were present, one on each side, but the Nazi flag on land was right-facing on both sides and at a 45° rotation.[15]
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:51 pm
by hiddendragon
Swastika is not a racist symbol. Sadly the nazi germans of WWII made it seem like one though
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:53 pm
by stahrgazer
hd, because of what they did and its continued use as such, it has a stigma to it. There are other symbols for "peace" and "luck" if this wasn't intended to cause the controversy it did.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 5:59 pm
by Natewolfman
stahrgazer wrote:hd, because of what they did and its continued use as such, it has a stigma to it. There are other symbols for "peace" and "luck" if this wasn't intended to cause the controversy it did.
as i stated before and was somehow glossed over... lol, the cross can be seen with a stigma for the crusades, they killed alot more non-christians then nazi's killed jews... the romans (though i cant remember what symbol they used...) killed thousands+ of the 'one god' religions... ANY symbol can be seen as negative and racist to an extent, but it takes true presence of mind to see past that, and thats what everyone should stride for... by placeing a stigma on the symbols as you are right now, we give them power, and only by letting it go can we truely be free
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:04 pm
by stahrgazer
I honestly don't give a rat's tush about the symbol's ancient meaning. What bothers me about its use is, from what jayde's said before, she thrives on creating controversy, and was seeking a way to do it. Guess she found it.
As I said earlier, if this were jayde's religion, that's one thing.. but it's not (even if it was, most of them have found alternative but satisfying symbols to use TODAY without stigma attached).
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:10 pm
by Natewolfman
stahrgazer wrote:As I said earlier, if this were jayde's religion, that's one thing.. but it's not (even if it was, most of them have found alternative but satisfying symbols to use TODAY without stigma attached).
It dosnt matter if its her religion or not, its freedom to do with her avi as she pleases, weather it is her religion or not is irrelivent. What your saying is if a Bhudist came to CC with that in there sig and a Neo Nazi came in with that sig you would force one player to replace it and not allow another? that is prejudice against someone's belifes weather you agree with them or not...
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:14 pm
by stahrgazer
I didn't say force her to replace it. I said, note that it's intended to cause the controversy it did, and if it really meant "peace" and "luck" there are other symbols that wouldn't mean what that could mean REGARDLESS of which way the limbs face.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:16 pm
by jayde
stahrgazer wrote:I honestly don't give a rat's tush about the symbol's ancient meaning. What bothers me about its use is, from what jayde's said before, she thrives on creating controversy, and was seeking a way to do it. Guess she found it.
As I said earlier, if this were jayde's religion, that's one thing.. but it's not (even if it was, most of them have found alternative but satisfying symbols to use TODAY without stigma attached).
Stahr please stop making up things about me. I said nothing about creating controversy here at any point. How do you even know my religion? This appears to be already dismissed, perhaps you should just let it go?
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:32 pm
by stahrgazer
Jayde, you did say it. You want to bend the facts now, but you did.
If you believe it's so "dropped" why did you bring it up in chat? Why continue responding here, for that matter?
Offering "puta" and "freaka" when someone asked for phoenetic synonyms to "chica" is as uncontroversial as your "religious symbol."
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:36 pm
by jayde
Uh no I didn't. I think I can remember what I said and did and why I added the profile. So take your lies elsewhere.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:38 pm
by stahrgazer
I'm not lying.
I thought you said the issue is closed, but you keep coming back.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:39 pm
by jayde
The issue is closed reports = closed
The fact you told a lie, whether you knew it was incorrect or not, is still creating imbalance.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:40 pm
by stahrgazer
It's a fact that I did not tell a lie, but you're attempting to mislead.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 6:41 pm
by jayde
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:33 pm
by hecter
I would like to point out something to you stahrgazer... If what you feel about jayde is correct, all you're doing is feeding her want for controversy and chaos more and more.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:39 pm
by stahrgazer
Evil thrives when good men do nothing.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 7:46 pm
by jayde
Liars will keep lying until someone stops them.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 8:08 pm
by stahrgazer
Yes, you will.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:00 pm
by lancehoch
Guys, cool it. NS talked with a bunch of the mods and we came to a conclusion together. If you would like to read what we decided, go back to NS's statement. If you continue to bicker back and forth I will direct you to Flame Wars or send you a PM warning.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:45 pm
by jayde
lance can I report the lies about me as flaming?
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:47 pm
by stahrgazer
They weren't lies.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:53 pm
by lancehoch
Jayde and stahr, check your inboxes. Locked until I receive a response from both of you.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Fri Dec 05, 2008 11:51 pm
by jayde
I'm thinking of using this symbol for my new religion - JAYPAULISM, aka JAYDISM.
Re: Jayde [Noted]
Posted: Sun Dec 07, 2008 9:20 pm
by Meister
excuse me?? you think Hitler was right?? !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
