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Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:16 am
by T7
owenshooter wrote:lock and merge... twill already gave the link where this is to be debated. you know you should do it wicked, just because you are on the side of the alleged majority doesn't mean you can shirk your duties as a mod... 2 new threads going on the same thing again, why don't you lock and merge them? this is getting annoying. nobody tried to SILENCE anyone. they simply told everyone where the original debate that they all seemed to miss had taken place, and where it continues to NOW take place. you should all go be constructive in the foundry instead of bitching in the GD...-0


This is a thread to get your name added to a petition. If you want to debate thread merges, you're in the wrong thread - follow your own rules. And if you want to be that anal about it, you should petition to get all the "THE DICE ARE NOT RANDOM!" threads merged into one thread. Join us in reality - we're all a little bit relaxed, it's nice...

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:16 am
by oVo
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Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:05 am
by Seulessliathan
why not make 2 maps (they both already exist) ... we have about 80 maps .... so why not offer classic AND classic revamp? it will screws nobody to have one map more and everybody can chose which one he wants to play.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:23 am
by Ruben Cassar
Seulessliathan wrote:why not make 2 maps (they both already exist) ... we have about 80 maps .... so why not offer classic AND classic revamp? it will screws nobody to have one map more and everybody can chose which one he wants to play.


That has been proposed many times but no one ever gives a reply to that question unless I missed it in the various thread merges. I just posted again an earlier post in the foundry where I made some suggestions which were ignored among which this one.

It's okay not to listen to any of the suggestion but at least I would like to get some feedback on them.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 4:29 am
by wicked
As has already been stated, make your suggestions in the map forum thread, as that's where we're looking, not here. That's why all the threads in this forum were locked earlier today, to try to focus the discussion in one place. However, I'm leaving this open as a courtesy so people have somewhere to vent. That way actual progressive discussion can happen in the other thread (hopefully!).

At this point, Lack is just trying to absorb in all the reactions and trying to come up with a suitable plan to answer everyone's needs.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:14 am
by jiminski
Seulessliathan wrote:why not make 2 maps (they both already exist) ... we have about 80 maps .... so why not offer classic AND classic revamp? it will screws nobody to have one map more and everybody can chose which one he wants to play.


Forgive my one meander into the other threads territory please

Seul, I think the problem is, that the reason they changed the map was to accommodate Visually impaired users. So if we have 2 maps, independent of each other, those with colour-blindness will still be no better off.

As it has been said many times the new map does not help them anyway.

What has been proposed is a 'user script' perhaps, which allows those with sight problems to select another viewing option. (I suggested a bleached version a little like Middle East) that way everyone can play in the same games and see what they are doing.

Anyway all come to the official thread and offer your genius.. i have linked it above my Signature.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 7:57 am
by DiM
wow, 63 signatures. how many do you guys think it would take for lack to change it back??

and if it is successful then let's do a petition to force lack to give us all premium, then a petition to force wicked to give backrubs to everybody.

heck if i start a petition about the backrubs i bet i'd get more signatures than this :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:05 am
by jiminski
DiM wrote:wow, 63 signatures. how many do you guys think it would take for lack to change it back??

and if it is successful then let's do a petition to force lack to give us all premium, then a petition to force wicked to give backrubs to everybody.

heck if i start a petition about the backrubs i bet i'd get more signatures than this :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


no need DiM! i will give you a gratis backrub.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:17 am
by T7
Me too! I can give him my patented "Three-handed backrub"!

Yes I know... it's a secret where the third hand comes from. :^o

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:29 am
by owenshooter
DiM wrote:wow, 63 signatures. how many do you guys think it would take for lack to change it back??

and if it is successful then let's do a petition to force lack to give us all premium, then a petition to force wicked to give backrubs to everybody.

heck if i start a petition about the backrubs i bet i'd get more signatures than this :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

DiM, you just don't GET IT... i mean, they were only warned about the changes and urged to go to the foundry months ago to offer input and criticism and suggestions. you can't expect all 63 of these people to take a few minutes out of their lives and peek into the changes... i only wish this had been launched on april fools day. that would have made this truly hilarious.-0

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:46 am
by T7
I'll be damned, you're right - launching the new map on April fools day truly would have made this hilarious. I actually wish it happened just for the extra confusion/fun factor.

Good sense of humour Owen, you quality for one of my special backrubs. Come on over here baby... 8-)

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:47 am
by BeakerWMA
I will sign the petition with pleasure.

and LYC: my premium is up in a week and as I play mostly on Classic, this issue could play a huge role in whether I re-up or not.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 8:54 am
by owenshooter
BeakerWMA wrote:I will sign the petition with pleasure.

and LYC: my premium is up in a week and as I play mostly on Classic, this issue could play a huge role in whether I re-up or not.

hey, see you!!! be sure to grab a nice parting gift out of the basket by the door... i suggest the turtle muffins, they are awesome.-0

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:01 am
by BeakerWMA
Can we expect such pleasant responses when we give our opinion in the Map Foundry as well?

Again, I put a LYC there, not saying I won;t be back, just that it could have an impact...and maybe the pro-change are right, the more I play on the new map the less of an issue it will be, but right now it is an issue for me *shrug*
and apparently I'm not alone.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:11 am
by owenshooter
BeakerWMA wrote:Can we expect such pleasant responses when we give our opinion in the map Foundry as well?
Stay classy Owen.

no, if you go there and stop complaining in the GD, and are actually constructive, you are treated with respect and listened to. when you bitch and moan and quote obvious ron burgundy lines, i MOCK YOU!-0

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:14 am
by BeakerWMA
heh I tried to edit out my snark at the same time you were responding and back up my post a bit :)

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:21 am
by SyrDragon
Please add me, thx

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 9:50 am
by artemis.fowl
So, what happened to the 49 signatures that were already on the petition?

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 10:17 am
by owenshooter
artemis.fowl wrote:So, what happened to the 49 signatures that were already on the petition?

same petition... it was moved... quadruple zzzzzzzzzzzzz...-0

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 11:11 am
by greenoaks
no it is not the same petition, i am on one of them but not the other.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 1:07 pm
by what,me worry?
Please dont feed the trolls who obviously have no lives, except to talk S and hit the refresh button on their myspace.

If you are not on the list:
1. and you were on the first
2. want to be
3. missed your post to be

Please repost and I will make the change.

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:25 pm
by owenshooter
greenoaks wrote:no it is not the same petition, i am on one of them but not the other.

they tried to limit it to good players.-0

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:40 pm
by detlef
what,me worry? wrote:Please dont feed the trolls who obviously have no lives
As opposed to people who scream bloody murder over a website changing a map? Then spam a forum over the same? Then bitch about the fact that their precious threads were merged? Then realize that they've finally found their cause in life and that cause it to take the freaking circles off the classic map?

Just wanted to make sure...

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 2:54 pm
by jiminski
detlef wrote:
what,me worry? wrote:Please dont feed the trolls who obviously have no lives
As opposed to people who scream bloody murder over a website changing a map? Then spam a forum over the same? Then bitch about the fact that their precious threads were merged? Then realize that they've finally found their cause in life and that cause it to take the freaking circles off the classic map?

Just wanted to make sure...



hehe thank god I am here to bitch about you, bitching about them bitching about ....hmm now where were we again!?

Re: Petition To Reinstate the "classic" map PART DEUX

Posted: Thu Apr 10, 2008 3:17 pm
by detlef
jiminski wrote:
detlef wrote:
what,me worry? wrote:Please dont feed the trolls who obviously have no lives
As opposed to people who scream bloody murder over a website changing a map? Then spam a forum over the same? Then bitch about the fact that their precious threads were merged? Then realize that they've finally found their cause in life and that cause it to take the freaking circles off the classic map?

Just wanted to make sure...



hehe thank god I am here to bitch about you, bitching about them bitching about ....hmm now where were we again!?

LOL, I am fully aware that I've been an insulting SOB who's spent far too much energy on this issue already. If somebody who hasn't been that exact same guy on the other side of the argument wants to point that out, I'll humbly shape my fingers into an "L" shape and place it before my forehead. However, if one of you wankers wants to call this kettle black, then consider those fingers shaped into a bird instead.