Conquer Club

One of my history teachers told the class that Hitler was so successful because of Joesph Goebbels, the Nazi propaganda minister. So with Goebbels around, he could make up all sorts of stuff that are positive about Hitler and deny anything bad. After all, propaganda is quite powerful...

PLAYER57832 wrote:If you insist on pursuing this, I suggest doing it in Flame wars, not here.

That would require somebody actually flaming someone...

Seriously though, if a little bit of gentle humour is going to cause you such problems then perhaps you're not quite ready for the internet yet; things here are a very serious business y'see and we can't have you going to pieces at the first sign of controversy.

My advice would be to save the self-righteous stuff till somebody cracks out gags about the holocaust. Alternatively I hear that http://www.sanctimoniouspeoplewithnosensesofhumour.net is currently having something of a recruitment drive, perhaps you could check them out?

PLAYER57832 wrote:If you insist on pursuing this, I suggest doing it in Flame wars, not here.

that's actually not a bad idea Player... i don't think anyone has created a thread discussing all of the ethnicities they would like to exterminate. you could be the first!

reminisco wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:If you insist on pursuing this, I suggest doing it in Flame wars, not here.

that's actually not a bad idea Player... i don't think anyone has created a thread discussing all of the ethnicities they would like to exterminate. you could be the first!

Actually, there was a thread back in May or June last year about killing Americans in Flame Wars. Needless to say, it was locked after several pages.

Dancing Mustard wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:The SS was Hitler's bodyguards and elite combat troops (Waffen SS). They don't exist anymore, sorry. And a good thing too, I think.

If one were immoral, then yeah, I could see how one might be twisted enough to think that what a good perk of one's job. There were other perks, free land in occupied territory (Aryan colony/garrisons for maintaining not only the purity of the race, but to provide a bulwark from which to continually expand the "thousand-year Reich") being one.

They don't exist? But why? They sound like the best thing ever, free women, free land, free bulwarks....

Did they get bought out by a private investment company or something? The whole operation sounds like the kind of thing private investors would be keen to put in their portfolios...

Y'know, if they still exist under a different market name then I'll be well up for it and stuff.

mandalorian2298 wrote:The question that always troubled me about the Nazi movement was: How come Hitler had been considered part of the Master Race?

Was he?

brooksieb wrote:Well i've been thinking this for a few days, am i part of hitler's 'master race'?.

I have fair hair (in the middle of brunette and blonde, blue eyes am 6 foot 1, got a faded 6 pac, Born in England, both my parents have blue eyes and i do not have a disibility.

No i'm not thinking about joining a neo nazi group, i'm just curious can i have some awnsers please.

And would japanese people be considered a master race?, i know there are alot of top history brains.

hitler himself wouldn't be considered part of his "master race".

mandalorian2298 wrote:The question that always troubled me about the Nazi movement was: How come Hitler had been considered part of the Master Race?

was that the thing that troubled you the most abotu the nazi movement?

Typherin wrote:

PLAYER57832 wrote:Some things should not be joked about. Remember six million individuals DIED in concentration camps. Millions of others, including parts of my family were forced to provide food and support to soldiers, forced to put up with serious deprivations. No one with an ounce of sense could possibly want to revive these truly tragic ideas.

If you insist on pursuing this, I suggest doing it in Flame wars, not here.

Thoughts mods?

Yet the question remains, would the world be a better place if Hitler has succeeded ?

Millions died during the second world war, Yet many millions more are still dieing to this day all over the world. Religion has caused more bloodshed than any other force through history. If one religion could fully dominate the world would it put an end to the constant wars, terrorism and racism that date back through time ? Meh probably not, Roman empire syndrome

Typhers

And no, I'm not a pro nazi

Well my me, a few of my brothers are fair haired and blue eyed and probably would of been considered part of the 'master race' all my other family have brunette hair and brown eyes, after the 'inferior races' would of been exterminated would there of been a type of apartheid between the blonde - fairhair blue eyed people and the other white people or would they of been able to live together side by side, because if the 1 choice happened i would of had alot of thinking to do, either join the 'superior class' or stay amongst the 'inferior' class even though i have fair hair and blue eyes?. Though all in all i would want none to happen because i have quite a few friends that would not get classed in the being able to live category if hitler had controlled the world.

mybike_yourface wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:The question that always troubled me about the Nazi movement was: How come Hitler had been considered part of the Master Race?

was that the thing that troubled you the most abotu the nazi movement?

Other then that, it's compleatly logical result of democracy. Nazism gave people a license to be violent, a large list of "Others" to blaim and rage out on, some good old fascioned patriotism that has such appeal for people who's main (and only) acomplishment in life is the fact that they have been born somewhere (and as members of a race ) and a chance to escape all those pesky responisibilites that come with freedom (as opposed to the warm feeling you get when you FOLLOW ORDERS for YOUR COUNTRY). People are idiots, nacism is a form of idiocy. No mistery there.

mandalorian2298 wrote:

mybike_yourface wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:The question that always troubled me about the Nazi movement was: How come Hitler had been considered part of the Master Race?

was that the thing that troubled you the most abotu the nazi movement?

Other then that, it's compleatly logical result of democracy. Nazism gave people a license to be violent, a large list of "Others" to blaim and rage out on, some good old fascioned patriotism that has such appeal for people who's main (and only) acomplishment in life is the fact that they have been born somewhere (and as members of a race ) and a chance to escape all those pesky responisibilites that come with freedom (as opposed to the warm feeling you get when you FOLLOW ORDERS for YOUR COUNTRY). People are idiots, nacism is a form of idiocy. No mistery there.

true.

Dancing Mustard wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:The SS was Hitler's bodyguards and elite combat troops (Waffen SS). They don't exist anymore, sorry. And a good thing too, I think.

If one were immoral, then yeah, I could see how one might be twisted enough to think that what a good perk of one's job. There were other perks, free land in occupied territory (Aryan colony/garrisons for maintaining not only the purity of the race, but to provide a bulwark from which to continually expand the "thousand-year Reich") being one.

They don't exist? But why? They sound like the best thing ever, free women, free land, free bulwarks....

Did they get bought out by a private investment company or something? The whole operation sounds like the kind of thing private investors would be keen to put in their portfolios...

Y'know, if they still exist under a different market name then I'll be well up for it and stuff.

Two great forces stopped them, the Allied powers of Great Britian, United States and (then) Soviet Union. Hitler had the infinite stupidity as a thundering moron, to press an ill-fated aerial siege on civilian targets in London (the Battle of Britian) and when that failed miserably, he decided to attack Russia at the end of summer and forgot to send along winter gear. It when all down hill after he then remained allies with Japan after they made the massively stupid mistake of attacking Pearl Harbor (especially before the declaration hit FDR's desk) and declared war on the US, instead of leaving them out to dry. Since they were an arm of the Nazi Regime, they were disbanded by international decree and put up on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity. It is for the best that no such agency exists.

Snorri1234 wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:The question that always troubled me about the Nazi movement was: How come Hitler had been considered part of the Master Race?

Was he?

By his own standards and those of pretty much all groups related to the the Nazies in philosophy, no. But that, apparently, wasn't as big of a problem as one might think.

Jenos Ridan wrote:Two great forces stopped them, the Allied powers of Great Britian, United States and (then) Soviet Union. Hitler had the infinite stupidity as a thundering moron, to press an ill-fated aerial siege on civilian targets in London (the Battle of Britian) and when that failed miserably, he decided to attack Russia at the end of summer and forgot to send along winter gear. It when all down hill after he then remained allies with Japan after they made the massively stupid mistake of attacking Pearl Harbor (especially before the declaration hit FDR's desk) and declared war on the US, instead of leaving them out to dry. Since they were an arm of the Nazi Regime, they were disbanded by international decree and put up on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity. It is for the best that no such agency exists.

Wow.
That's some pretty obscure history there Jenos, are you doing a degree in this stuff or something? I'd never even heard of the SS before this thread, but it seems like there is so much history to them... how did you find it all out? What was the resting value of SS shares after their CEO's got indicted for all those crimes btw? Did the company get wound up, or did it just lay dormant?

Jenos Ridan wrote:

Snorri1234 wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:The question that always troubled me about the Nazi movement was: How come Hitler had been considered part of the Master Race?

Was he?

By his own standards and those of pretty much all groups related to the the Nazies in philosophy, no. But that, apparently, wasn't as big of a problem as one might think.

I always figured he didn't consider himself part of it.

mybike_yourface wrote:

mandalorian2298 wrote:The question that always troubled me about the Nazi movement was: How come Hitler had been considered part of the Master Race?

was that the thing that troubled you the most abotu the nazi movement?

while blonde hair and blue eyes were very common among nordic/germanic people some also had dark hair. however the dark eyes i have no idea how he explained those away

Snorri1234 wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:By his own standards and those of pretty much all groups related to the the Nazies in philosophy, no. But that, apparently, wasn't as big of a problem as one might think.

I always figured he didn't consider himself part of it.

i always figured he was too much of a degenerate meth junkie to even give a shit.

From this page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_race

Nevertheless, such theorists usually accepted that considerable variety of hair and eye colour existed even within the racial categories they recognised. Contrary to a popular myth, the Nazis themselves did not discriminate against Germans who were not blonde or blue-eyed, or had only one of these features. Adolf Hitler and most Nazi officials (not to mention most Germans at the time) had dark hair and were considered to be "Aryans."

reminisco wrote:

Snorri1234 wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:By his own standards and those of pretty much all groups related to the the Nazies in philosophy, no. But that, apparently, wasn't as big of a problem as one might think.

I always figured he didn't consider himself part of it.

i always figured he was too much of a degenerate meth junkie to even give a shit.

That was part of it.....

Dancing Mustard wrote:

Jenos Ridan wrote:Two great forces stopped them, the Allied powers of Great Britian, United States and (then) Soviet Union. Hitler had the infinite stupidity as a thundering moron, to press an ill-fated aerial siege on civilian targets in London (the Battle of Britian) and when that failed miserably, he decided to attack Russia at the end of summer and forgot to send along winter gear. It when all down hill after he then remained allies with Japan after they made the massively stupid mistake of attacking Pearl Harbor (especially before the declaration hit FDR's desk) and declared war on the US, instead of leaving them out to dry. Since they were an arm of the Nazi Regime, they were disbanded by international decree and put up on charges of war crimes and crimes against humanity. It is for the best that no such agency exists.

Wow.
That's some pretty obscure history there Jenos, are you doing a degree in this stuff or something? I'd never even heard of the SS before this thread, but it seems like there is so much history to them... how did you find it all out? What was the resting value of SS shares after their CEO's got indicted for all those crimes btw? Did the company get wound up, or did it just lay dormant?

(BTW, I know what you are doing, and I don't care)

They are no more; they were utterly destroyed. No stock. No surviving up-echelon members, no nothing. Gone and (thankfully) never to return except in the various knock-offs in other dictatorships (Like Syria and Iraq) or in the form of the Neo-Nazi movements in the western world.

As for were I learned about all this, it's called a Public Library.

And so ends a somewhat interesting way of learning about a faction in WWII. Next week, we will learn about the French victories since Napoleon Boneparte was exiled (for the 2nd time).

muy_thaiguy wrote:And so ends a somewhat interesting way of learning about a faction in WWII. Next week, we will learn about the French victories since Napoleon Boneparte was exiled (for the 2nd time).

*Bows formally, then hands the podium over to the next guest speaker......*