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Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 6:14 am
by greenoaks
i was watching SNL one night. the news section with the two chicks doing one-liners. they made reference to Bill hitting on his very young female journos. the brown haired one - i forget the name, she recently came back from maternity leave seemed to be speaking from first-hand experience.
does anyone know anything about that ?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:56 am
by MeDeFe
greenoaks, what does that have to do with whisky?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 9:22 am
by HayesA
greenoaks wrote:i was watching SNL one night. the news section with the two chicks doing one-liners. they made reference to Bill hitting on his very young female journos. the brown haired one - i forget the name, she recently came back from maternity leave seemed to be speaking from first-hand experience.
does anyone know anything about that ?
If true, I'll be forced to give Billio a +1 point for a job decently done.
MeDeFe wrote:greenoaks, what does that have to do with whisky?
Nothing at the moment. But I mean, really, what CANT be said about Whisky?
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:10 pm
by DaGip
Symmetry wrote:unriggable wrote:Symmetry wrote:There's no such thing as Scotch whiskey.
I'm pretty sure the word Scotch is short for scottish, by name there is no scotch whiskey but in fact all scotch is a whiskey offshoot.
Nah- it's a spelling thing. Scottish stuff is
whisky , Irish stuff is
whiskey. If you get a bottle that says "Scottish Whiskey", chances are it's not Scottish. There might be one or two exceptions that I don't know about though.
The standard spelling is "whisky", and if you see the "e", think "Éire".
Johnny Walker is the only non-Scottish Whisky that is allowed to be called Whisky, and they got special permission from Scotland.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:18 pm
by apey
MeDeFe wrote:greenoaks, what does that have to do with whisky?
You would have to be drinkin whiskey to let bill hit on you

Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 1:22 pm
by Iz Man
The word whisk(e)y most likely evolved over a period of 400 years from the the Gaelic "uisge beatha" (Irish pronounciation: Ishka Baha; Scotish pronounciation: Ishga Baugh) which translates as "water of life." Other early English spellings of the time included "usquebea" and "iskie bae." By the time Henry II invaded Ireland the word had become "whisk(e)y" referring to any of the grain produced alcoholic spirits produced in the British isles. It was not until the 19th and later centuries that clear production and stylistic differences between Scottish, Irish, American, Canadian and Japanese whiskies were clearly defined.
Basically the naming rule is this: if it is from Scotland, Canada or Japan the word is "whisky" (without an 'e') and usually distinguished by its country of origin such as Scotch whisky. If it originates from Ireland or the United States, it has the 'e' and defined by its country (Irish whiskey), region (Tennessee whiskey), style (bourbon whiskey) or ingredients (rye whiskey). Here's where it gets complicated: Some American bourbon and whiskey brands, for whatever reason, do not to spell their brand with an 'e'. While Jack Daniels (a Tennessee whiskey) spells their brand with an 'e', the other Tennessee whisky, George Dickel, does not. Maker's Mark, Old Forester and Early Times do not spell theirs with an 'e' either.
Historically, the Americanization of British words involved shortening, simplifying and/or losing letters. So why do most American whiskeys have an 'e'? The Whisky Rebellion in 1794 doesn't have an 'e'. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms' regulations (Title 27, Chapter 1, Part 5) which has definitions of the classes of spirits in the United States there is not a single use of the word "whisky" with an 'e'.
Today, the reason for the 'e' may be more business oriented. With international trade treaties, copyright and trademark laws, only spirits produced in Scotland can be called "Scotch whisky". Other laws protect Canadian whisky and Bourbon whiskey just as they protect Cognac and Tequila as a defined product brand.
There's the geek answer for ya....
Cheers.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 2:16 pm
by DaGip
Iz Man wrote:The word whisk(e)y most likely evolved over a period of 400 years from the the Gaelic "uisge beatha" (Irish pronounciation: Ishka Baha; Scotish pronounciation: Ishga Baugh) which translates as "water of life." Other early English spellings of the time included "usquebea" and "iskie bae." By the time Henry II invaded Ireland the word had become "whisk(e)y" referring to any of the grain produced alcoholic spirits produced in the British isles. It was not until the 19th and later centuries that clear production and stylistic differences between Scottish, Irish, American, Canadian and Japanese whiskies were clearly defined.
Basically the naming rule is this: if it is from Scotland, Canada or Japan the word is "whisky" (without an 'e') and usually distinguished by its country of origin such as Scotch whisky. If it originates from Ireland or the United States, it has the 'e' and defined by its country (Irish whiskey), region (Tennessee whiskey), style (bourbon whiskey) or ingredients (rye whiskey). Here's where it gets complicated: Some American bourbon and whiskey brands, for whatever reason, do not to spell their brand with an 'e'. While Jack Daniels (a Tennessee whiskey) spells their brand with an 'e', the other Tennessee whisky, George Dickel, does not. Maker's Mark, Old Forester and Early Times do not spell theirs with an 'e' either.
Historically, the Americanization of British words involved shortening, simplifying and/or losing letters. So why do most American whiskeys have an 'e'? The Whisky Rebellion in 1794 doesn't have an 'e'. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms' regulations (Title 27, Chapter 1, Part 5) which has definitions of the classes of spirits in the United States there is not a single use of the word "whisky" with an 'e'.
Today, the reason for the 'e' may be more business oriented. With international trade treaties, copyright and trademark laws, only spirits produced in Scotland can be called "Scotch whisky". Other laws protect Canadian whisky and Bourbon whiskey just as they protect Cognac and Tequila as a defined product brand.
There's the geek answer for ya....
Cheers.
Now that's a mate!
FREE NORSE!~
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 4:53 pm
by MeDeFe
It's a good answer Iz.
Posted: Tue Jan 22, 2008 11:33 pm
by greenoaks
DaGip wrote:Symmetry wrote:unriggable wrote:Symmetry wrote:There's no such thing as Scotch whiskey.
I'm pretty sure the word Scotch is short for scottish, by name there is no scotch whiskey but in fact all scotch is a whiskey offshoot.
Nah- it's a spelling thing. Scottish stuff is
whisky , Irish stuff is
whiskey. If you get a bottle that says "Scottish Whiskey", chances are it's not Scottish. There might be one or two exceptions that I don't know about though.
The standard spelling is "whisky", and if you see the "e", think "Éire".
Johnny Walker is the only non-Scottish Whisky that is allowed to be called Whisky, and they got special permission from Scotland.
Johnny Walker IS scotch.
it is a brand of Scotch whisky produced in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. it is also the most widely distributed brand of Scotch whisky in the world
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 2:02 am
by DaGip
greenoaks wrote:DaGip wrote:Symmetry wrote:unriggable wrote:Symmetry wrote:There's no such thing as Scotch whiskey.
I'm pretty sure the word Scotch is short for scottish, by name there is no scotch whiskey but in fact all scotch is a whiskey offshoot.
Nah- it's a spelling thing. Scottish stuff is
whisky , Irish stuff is
whiskey. If you get a bottle that says "Scottish Whiskey", chances are it's not Scottish. There might be one or two exceptions that I don't know about though.
The standard spelling is "whisky", and if you see the "e", think "Éire".
Johnny Walker is the only non-Scottish Whisky that is allowed to be called Whisky, and they got special permission from Scotland.
Johnny Walker IS scotch.
it is a brand of Scotch whisky produced in Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, Scotland. it is also the most widely distributed brand of Scotch whisky in the world
Thanks for the info, greenoaks!
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:39 am
by unriggable
Iz Man wrote:The word whisk(e)y most likely evolved over a period of 400 years from the the Gaelic "uisge beatha" (Irish pronounciation: Ishka Baha; Scotish pronounciation: Ishga Baugh) which translates as "water of life." Other early English spellings of the time included "usquebea" and "iskie bae." By the time Henry II invaded Ireland the word had become "whisk(e)y" referring to any of the grain produced alcoholic spirits produced in the British isles. It was not until the 19th and later centuries that clear production and stylistic differences between Scottish, Irish, American, Canadian and Japanese whiskies were clearly defined.
Basically the naming rule is this: if it is from Scotland, Canada or Japan the word is "whisky" (without an 'e') and usually distinguished by its country of origin such as Scotch whisky. If it originates from Ireland or the United States, it has the 'e' and defined by its country (Irish whiskey), region (Tennessee whiskey), style (bourbon whiskey) or ingredients (rye whiskey). Here's where it gets complicated: Some American bourbon and whiskey brands, for whatever reason, do not to spell their brand with an 'e'. While Jack Daniels (a Tennessee whiskey) spells their brand with an 'e', the other Tennessee whisky, George Dickel, does not. Maker's Mark, Old Forester and Early Times do not spell theirs with an 'e' either.
Historically, the Americanization of British words involved shortening, simplifying and/or losing letters. So why do most American whiskeys have an 'e'? The Whisky Rebellion in 1794 doesn't have an 'e'. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms' regulations (Title 27, Chapter 1, Part 5) which has definitions of the classes of spirits in the United States there is not a single use of the word "whisky" with an 'e'.
Today, the reason for the 'e' may be more business oriented. With international trade treaties, copyright and trademark laws, only spirits produced in Scotland can be called "Scotch whisky". Other laws protect Canadian whisky and Bourbon whiskey just as they protect Cognac and Tequila as a defined product brand.
There's the geek answer for ya....
Cheers.
Wow.
Umm.
To add to this debate, Bill is a cunt.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:28 pm
by DaGip
unriggable wrote:Iz Man wrote:The word whisk(e)y most likely evolved over a period of 400 years from the the Gaelic "uisge beatha" (Irish pronounciation: Ishka Baha; Scotish pronounciation: Ishga Baugh) which translates as "water of life." Other early English spellings of the time included "usquebea" and "iskie bae." By the time Henry II invaded Ireland the word had become "whisk(e)y" referring to any of the grain produced alcoholic spirits produced in the British isles. It was not until the 19th and later centuries that clear production and stylistic differences between Scottish, Irish, American, Canadian and Japanese whiskies were clearly defined.
Basically the naming rule is this: if it is from Scotland, Canada or Japan the word is "whisky" (without an 'e') and usually distinguished by its country of origin such as Scotch whisky. If it originates from Ireland or the United States, it has the 'e' and defined by its country (Irish whiskey), region (Tennessee whiskey), style (bourbon whiskey) or ingredients (rye whiskey). Here's where it gets complicated: Some American bourbon and whiskey brands, for whatever reason, do not to spell their brand with an 'e'. While Jack Daniels (a Tennessee whiskey) spells their brand with an 'e', the other Tennessee whisky, George Dickel, does not. Maker's Mark, Old Forester and Early Times do not spell theirs with an 'e' either.
Historically, the Americanization of British words involved shortening, simplifying and/or losing letters. So why do most American whiskeys have an 'e'? The Whisky Rebellion in 1794 doesn't have an 'e'. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms' regulations (Title 27, Chapter 1, Part 5) which has definitions of the classes of spirits in the United States there is not a single use of the word "whisky" with an 'e'.
Today, the reason for the 'e' may be more business oriented. With international trade treaties, copyright and trademark laws, only spirits produced in Scotland can be called "Scotch whisky". Other laws protect Canadian whisky and Bourbon whiskey just as they protect Cognac and Tequila as a defined product brand.
There's the geek answer for ya....
Cheers.
Wow.
Umm.
To add to this debate, Bill is a cunt.
Bill is a racist, sexist, biggot and should be permabanned from CC immediately!
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:35 pm
by MeDeFe
Bill is a meglomaniac who wants to control the world and won't be satisfied until he knows everything about everyone there is to know so he can market to every person tailored to their susceptibilities.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:39 pm
by Neoteny
Bill is a fair and balanced journalist who provides no spin on any topic, and gives all his guests an equal amount of time to speak.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 3:58 pm
by Iz Man
The topic of Scotch is much more interesting
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 4:44 pm
by Snorri1234
Neoteny wrote:Bill is a fair and balanced journalist who provides no spin on any topic, and gives all his guests an equal amount of time to speak.
I think you might've been drinking too much whiskey.
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:15 pm
by Neoteny
Snorri1234 wrote:Neoteny wrote:Bill is a fair and balanced journalist who provides no spin on any topic, and gives all his guests an equal amount of time to speak.
I think you might've been drinking too much whiskey.
Is that why I can't reach my face?
Posted: Wed Jan 23, 2008 8:26 pm
by Snorri1234
Neoteny wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:Neoteny wrote:Bill is a fair and balanced journalist who provides no spin on any topic, and gives all his guests an equal amount of time to speak.
I think you might've been drinking too much whiskey.
Is that why I can't reach my face?
Unless you're part of some operation to get your face replaced with that of Nicolas Cage and unravel a terrorist plot, I'd say yes.
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:42 am
by DaGip
Iz Man wrote:The topic of Scotch is much more interesting
Very good! Bill O' vs Scotch...and Scotch is winning, LOL!

Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 12:52 am
by OnlyAmbrose
Bill's crazy, but one thing I do like about him is that he doesn't pretend that he's not ridiculously biased. Nuts like Keith Olbermann like to pretend they're objective anchormen.
Posted: Thu Jan 24, 2008 1:52 am
by DaGip
OnlyAmbrose wrote:Bill's crazy, but one thing I do like about him is that he doesn't pretend that he's not ridiculously biased. Nuts like Keith Olbermann like to pretend they're objective anchormen.
Kieth Obberman is his best when he is berating President Bush, but when he starts whining about O'Reilly it becomes a bit annoying...but O'Reilly deserves some of the bashing Obberman gives him, you have to admit. But fair is fair, and Obberman deserves a little bashing from the right as well.
I don't think O'Reilly has ever asked MSNBC to fire Obberman...has he?