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Conquer Club • How would you describe your political alleigance? - Page 2
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Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:19 pm
by Norse
Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal


Look up the meaning of national-liberal.

Would you class Nazi's (national socialists) as socialists?

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:36 pm
by Napoleon Ier
Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal


I am a liberal, but the term has been hijacked, as Milton Friedman notes, as an ultimate compliment to its professors, by its very opponents.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:48 pm
by unriggable
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal


I am a liberal, but the term has been hijacked, as Milton Friedman notes, as an ultimate compliment to its professors, by its very opponents.


All terms are hijacked over time - that's their evolving definition.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:51 pm
by Napoleon Ier
unriggable wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal


I am a liberal, but the term has been hijacked, as Milton Friedman notes, as an ultimate compliment to its professors, by its very opponents.


All terms are hijacked over time - that's their evolving definition.


Maybe. But in France I am accused of ultra-liberalism, ths being synonymous with capitalism. And it is the true sense of the word.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:55 pm
by Norse
I do not think that "fiscal" and "non-fiscal" terms should be clouded.

I understand what you mean nappy, a free-market is the right to choose how you spend and earn, the liberal "right to choose" type mentality, but I just disagree how these terms are not used correctly...

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 5:57 pm
by unriggable
Napoleon Ier wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Iliad wrote:
Napoleon Ier wrote:Neo-Nationalist federalist classical libertarian identitary, or "National-Liberal".
you are not a liberal


I am a liberal, but the term has been hijacked, as Milton Friedman notes, as an ultimate compliment to its professors, by its very opponents.


All terms are hijacked over time - that's their evolving definition.


Maybe. But in France I am accused of ultra-liberalism, ths being synonymous with capitalism. And it is the true sense of the word.


Maybe for you, then again in non-american states the capitalists are the color blue and the socialists are red, instead of here where the democrats are blue and republicans are red.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 6:24 pm
by Napoleon Ier
Norse wrote:I do not think that "fiscal" and "non-fiscal" terms should be clouded.

I understand what you mean nappy, a free-market is the right to choose how you spend and earn, the liberal "right to choose" type mentality, but I just disagree how these terms are not used correctly...


Vast subject! Again, one refers oneself to Milton Friedman (PBUH) who proves the link between economic and political freedom.

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:04 pm
by unriggable
Napoleon Ier wrote:
Norse wrote:I do not think that "fiscal" and "non-fiscal" terms should be clouded.

I understand what you mean nappy, a free-market is the right to choose how you spend and earn, the liberal "right to choose" type mentality, but I just disagree how these terms are not used correctly...


Vast subject! Again, one refers oneself to Milton Friedman (PBUH) who proves the link between economic and political freedom.


Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!

Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2008 10:28 pm
by Norse
unriggable wrote:
Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!


Yes, with which I can only assume, with your paricularly daft opinions, means you will not be free, on account of everytime you open your mouth, you will have fists closing it for it you again, charged on your health premiums, hospitalised.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 12:59 am
by unriggable
Norse wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!


Yes, with which I can only assume, with your paricularly daft opinions, means you will not be free, on account of everytime you open your mouth, you will have fists closing it for it you again, charged on your health premiums, hospitalised.


Nice comeback.

"The consumer is the worker."
"I will punch you in the face."

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:08 am
by Neutrino
unriggable wrote:
Norse wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!


Yes, with which I can only assume, with your paricularly daft opinions, means you will not be free, on account of everytime you open your mouth, you will have fists closing it for it you again, charged on your health premiums, hospitalised.


Nice comeback.

"The consumer is the worker."
"I will punch you in the face."


I think the relationship between these two statements is quite obvious.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:12 am
by Norse
unriggable wrote:
Norse wrote:
unriggable wrote:
Wow! The consumer and working class are *GASP* the same person! Only through lack of hospitalization will you be truly free!


Yes, with which I can only assume, with your paricularly daft opinions, means you will not be free, on account of everytime you open your mouth, you will have fists closing it for it you again, charged on your health premiums, hospitalised.


Nice comeback.

"The consumer is the worker."
"I will punch you in the face."


Yes.

Both approaches seem to work.
If USA had a national Health service, you fuckers would have been a bankrupted nation long ago....and the same is turning true for us Brits...I Hate the NHS...incompetence is promoted, and wastage is predominant..I know this after being in hospitals for a prevuious job...servicing CT scanners/MRI Scanners and x-ray machines...they had clumps of work-shy nurses, chatting away idlely, power-hungry radiologists, looking for reasons to feel superior, and radiologists, who were ok, and did all the fooking work.

NHS = Death.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:43 am
by Skoffin
I believe anything Norse believes.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 1:54 am
by Norse
Skoffin wrote: I believe anything Norse believes.


Hehe...I'm actually blushing..

Please just dress up in leather, and be dominant

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:01 am
by Skittles!
Skoffin wrote: I believe anything Norse believes.

I think I may have to knock you out on thursday.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:21 am
by CoffeeCream
Bill Richardson is out of the race so I'm not politically allied with anyone or any party. I guess I'll be a Hecterist.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:34 am
by Norse
We have a disturbuing number of Hecterists here.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:40 am
by Skoffin
Norse wrote:
Skoffin wrote: I believe anything Norse believes.


Hehe...I'm actually blushing..

Please just dress up in leather, and be dominant


I guess you're not aware of my style. Flatter them and build them up, then when they least expect it bring out the whips and tear 'em down.

Skittles! wrote:
Skoffin wrote: I believe anything Norse believes.

I think I may have to knock you out on thursday.


Reed.. 'Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer'.. work with me here.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 2:44 am
by Norse
Skoffin wrote:
Reed.. 'Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer'.. work with me here.


As long as there is sex involved.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:20 am
by hecter
Hecterism is winning... Sweet 8)

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 3:24 am
by Norse
I actually put myself down as a "classical conservative"...i'm suprised how many libertarians there are.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 6:34 am
by satanspaladin
well do you really need me to tell you what my leanings are! :lol:

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 7:44 am
by Semigall
I chose "national socialist", because i'm a member of rightist party and i also cooperate with few neo-national-socialist organizations.

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:11 am
by Jesse710
GREEN WOOT! WOOT!

Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 8:15 am
by suggs
Semigall wrote:I chose "national socialist", because i'm a member of rightist party and i also cooperate with few neo-national-socialist organizations.


Please try not to breathe.