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Home Map Change: Trench Warfare

You Can’t Change the Rules Halfway Through the Competition. In a competitive environment, the rules need to be laid out ahead of time, and unless all parties agree to changing them, they should not be changed to remove an advantage or disadvantage that is affecting one or more player. Please protect the integrity and excitement of this league that is beloved by so many and keep it the way it has been.

Son!c wrote:You Can’t Change the Rules Halfway Through the Competition. In a competitive environment, the rules need to be laid out ahead of time, and unless all parties agree to changing them, they should not be changed to remove an advantage or disadvantage that is affecting one or more player. Please protect the integrity and excitement of this league that is beloved by so many and keep it the way it has been.

No, no, no. You mis-understand Son!c

Son!c wrote:to force changing home maps with a simple poll

Any 'Forced Home Map Changes' are done solely to inforce current rules or new rules that have been voted through by our fellow players

And also,

Son!c wrote:In a democracy you need a certain majority of voters showing up if you want to make constitutional changes.

That is not the case at all. +1 is what you need in any democracy. In a population of 1M voters, if only 3 vote and 2 vote for a proposed change then that proposal is passed. Democracy does not cease to function because some people can't be arsed voting

Son!c wrote:Im sure if you would made a poll on banning Stalingrad you will have a higher outcome because most find it too specialised. Much more specialized than Trafalgar anyway.

And on banning other maps, we need to concentrate on what is practical to deliver. You cannot go just choosing one-off maps you want to ban.

Plus, me opening up the vote to the players, was an attempt to help you in that, the players may vote for fewer maps to be BANNED meaning you would not need to change HOME Maps.

But, this is not going the way I thought it would..........................

27 is in the lead with 10.
20 (the one where you keep your Home Map) is on 9!
25 (currently in place) is on 3!


Now, the crazy thing is, Baltic Crusades which is the most popular HOME MAP, is 28th Slowest!

Yours, In a very Democratic Fashion,

Craig25

In please... NYC as home map

You won't want to be in div 15 in season 5, or div 12 in season 6.

As a Scotsman Craig you know that first past the post is a horrible way to do elections. What if 51 people choose 27 but 50 people choose 20 and 50 people choose 22 ? Should the 27 win ?

It turns out that the benefits of a PR Vote versus FPP will not cause much problems in this Sep-Poll!

Clanlord Carl wrote:As a Scotsman Craig you know that first past the post is a horrible way to do elections. What if 51 people choose 27 but 50 people choose 20 and 50 people choose 22 ? Should the 27 win ?

Quote: "And on banning other maps, we need to concentrate on what is practical to deliver. You cannot go just choosing one-off maps you want to ban."


Im absolutely against the idea of banning home player maps already in play, it was just an example how easy it would be to ban such a home player map.

And c'mon, that Trafalgar is "slower" then Rails South America is just plain silly.

Clanlord Carl wrote:As a Scotsman Craig you know that first past the post is a horrible way to do elections. What if 51 people choose 27 but 50 people choose 20 and 50 people choose 22 ? Should the 27 win ?

'Aye, right!! It's a bit Numptie to do it like that

The Stats don't lie.

How many games on that spreadsheet, 18,000? Something like that?

Top Minds are working on this thing, and you will be pleased to know, I do not include myself in that number!

Son!c wrote:Quote: "And on banning other maps, we need to concentrate on what is practical to deliver. You cannot go just choosing one-off maps you want to ban."


Im absolutely against the idea of banning home player maps already in play, it was just an example how easy it would be to ban such a home player map.

And c'mon, that Trafalgar is "slower" then Rails South America is just plain silly.

Craig25 wrote:The Stats don't lie.

How many games on that spreadsheet, 18,000? Something like that?

Top Minds are working on this thing, and you will be pleased to know, I do not include myself in that number!

Son!c wrote:Quote: "And on banning other maps, we need to concentrate on what is practical to deliver. You cannot go just choosing one-off maps you want to ban."


Im absolutely against the idea of banning home player maps already in play, it was just an example how easy it would be to ban such a home player map.

And c'mon, that Trafalgar is "slower" then Rails South America is just plain silly.

Yes stats "an sich" don't lie but as always it's the interpretation given to them that's debatable. And yes the "Debatable part" can be a seriously silly game for people who love to argue BUT:

Now it's a matter of time before many other maps gets into the "25 slowest". Why? Because most players don't know all the maps and play a bit clueless on maps they don't know (like Rail SA). Hence a "fast" win for the other guy who knows what to do there.

So since Baltics is the most popular, that will make most players get to know that map better and better and start to play well on it.

Prediction: it will take more and more rounds to win on Baltics. So the Baltic map get's "slower".

My point: on the maps we have now it's not the map that is slow, it's the players.

But, the players dictating how long games last on maps is no answer to the question.

100% the slowest maps still need to be banned. It's a fast moving bing tournament. A season can't last a year.

Therefor, we still need the answer to 1 question.

How many maps should be banned to optimise speed of play and home map choice?

I am on fire today,!

Craig25 wrote:But, the players dictating how long games last on maps is no answer to the question.

100% the slowest maps still need to be banned. It's a fast moving bing tournament. A season can't last a year.

Therefor, we still need the answer to 1 question.

How many maps should be banned to optimise speed of play and home map choice?

I am on fire today,!

So every start to a new season the 27 (or 20) slowest get banned right? That's the only fair conclusion if this passes..

I'll start practicing on Trench Warfare today!

Yip, that is exactly what happens.

Currently we have Stats up to the end of last Season.

Next Season, the stats from this Season will be added to discount the slowest maps for the following season.

Home Map Change: Trafalaxy

Home map change to Trafalaxy

In pls

Home map : Arms Race

FORCED HOME MAP CHANGE TO TRAFALAXY

If not to late, I want in this tournament. Will take reserve.

You need to pick a HOME Map and reply on the Super League Tourney Page to enter Bro. GL!

Pugsl3yPPugf0rd wrote:If not to late, I want in this tournament. Will take reserve.

CASTLE LANDS, TKS

I would like to join season 5.

The map choose as my home map is Vancouver.

Thanks

Bason696

In please. Charleston as my home map.

'as expected'. Of course it is as expected. If you let me play Waterloo in a tourney what do you think will happen ? Shame I'll have to wait five more seasons to take the premier by storm.

I'll get in this tourney if not too late. Or, reserve. Home map Europe.