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Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 7:45 pm
by JPlo64
playing around with nss's sheet and have sorted most experienced players. Sorted by # of season played where 1 = 100% of possible games played in a season.
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Player Win % # of Seasons 1 JPlo64 0.567 6.672 2 Fyrdraca 0.614 5.719 3 Conchobar 0.541 5.600 4 Robespierre__ 0.535 5.558 5 uckuki 0.482 5.554 6 josko.ri 0.702 5.055 7 rcfritz 0.593 5.042 8 osman76 0.600 4.753 9 rousseau72 0.631 4.552 10 aad0906 0.545 4.361 11 ballenus 0.621 4.167 12 davekettering 0.562 4.119 13 lokisgal 0.528 4.074 14 t4mcr53s2 0.639 4.040 15 GoranZ 0.629 4.036 16 angola 0.497 3.957 17 kjg21 0.557 3.669 18 MTIceman41 0.530 3.664 19 Donelladan 0.602 3.589 20 Chariot of Fire 0.619 3.546 21 groovysmurf 0.532 3.481 22 Redfelt 0.530 3.460 23 Astoriana 0.636 3.381 24 Iang7 0.518 3.354 25 rockfist 0.617 3.347 26 nokelberry 0.673 3.282 27 nolefan5311 0.592 3.265 28 ElricTheGreat 0.491 3.251 29 loutil 0.629 3.164 30 ender_w99 0.509 3.140 31 woodsy2115 0.551 3.091 32 niMic 0.612 3.053 33 *Pixar* 0.538 3.050 34 PROFITS 0.547 3.049 35 Slaylark 0.523 3.045 36 skillfull 0.588 3.015 37 tin trumpet 0.432 3.013 38 Clanlord Carl 0.497 2.973 39 Avi8or 0.421 2.969 40 grt 0.565 2.946 41 gorehound 0.352 2.940 42 emilywink 0.494 2.882 43 chard 0.524 2.879 44 hopalong 0.569 2.876 45 JJ41375 0.486 2.819 46 Dako 0.590 2.816 47 shoop76 0.428 2.807 48 Leehar 0.468 2.666 49 All Black Rugby 0.554 2.590 50 mc05025 0.705 2.563 51 mkcummins 0.560 2.559 52 jabajabba 0.649 2.549 53 donche64 0.604 2.531 54 Swifte 0.609 2.500 55 Condor 0.518 2.497 56 samdemars 0.568 2.484 57 pconnolly365 0.551 2.474 58 Bruceswar 0.637 2.464 59 Juris 0.549 2.452 60 mookiemcgee 0.361 2.449 61 watsy 0.440 2.364 62 RobbieDub 0.566 2.361 63 Triple 6 0.642 2.353 64 Swimmerdude99 0.589 2.337 65 jj3044 0.599 2.336 66 fishydance 0.556 2.276 67 misteryforall 0.558 2.257 68 bfunny27 0.469 2.255 69 MagnusGreeol 0.533 2.231 70 Paul Tabinor 0.459 2.220 71 Caymanmew 0.505 2.207 72 IcePack 0.560 2.195 73 hyposquasher 0.679 2.193 74 fairman 0.648 2.187 75 Denise 0.614 2.162 76 TX AG 90 0.487 2.158 77 Qyu 0.541 2.155 78 Lord Arioch 0.367 2.153 79 agentcom 0.549 2.151 80 Grond 2cd. 0.513 2.126 81 JustCallMeStupid 0.394 2.125 82 Tiberius Maximus 0.496 2.110 83 xroads 0.583 2.082 84 Doc_Brown 0.643 2.064 85 JBoy 0.505 2.052 86 cooldeals 0.522 2.038 87 Hook2 0.575 2.028 88 iAmCaffeine 0.499 2.027 89 hmsps 0.474 2.004 90 Odeuminus 0.543 1.993 91 Ltrain 0.530 1.986 92 2007spaceodyssey 0.396 1.977 93 hudds 0.612 1.975 94 hjelp 0.521 1.972 95 Sea Devil 0.442 1.968 96 Junior Bee 0.660 1.968 97 iancanton 0.444 1.968 98 Egel 0.589 1.956 99 Kaiser Szami 0.461 1.935 100 Field-Marshal Ot 0.497 1.917
Below is the top 100 volume CL players sorted by win% going down to 50%
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Player Win % # of Seasons 50 mc05025 0.705 2.563 6 josko.ri 0.702 5.055 73 hyposquasher 0.679 2.193 26 nokelberry 0.673 3.282 96 Junior Bee 0.660 1.968 52 jabajabba 0.649 2.549 74 fairman 0.648 2.187 84 Doc_Brown 0.643 2.064 63 Triple 6 0.642 2.353 14 t4mcr53s2 0.639 4.040 58 Bruceswar 0.637 2.464 23 Astoriana 0.636 3.381 9 rousseau72 0.631 4.552 29 loutil 0.629 3.164 15 GoranZ 0.629 4.036 11 ballenus 0.621 4.167 20 Chariot of Fire 0.619 3.546 25 rockfist 0.617 3.347 2 Fyrdraca 0.614 5.719 75 Denise 0.614 2.162 93 hudds 0.612 1.975 32 niMic 0.612 3.053 54 Swifte 0.609 2.500 53 donche64 0.604 2.531 19 Donelladan 0.602 3.589 8 osman76 0.600 4.753 65 jj3044 0.599 2.336 7 rcfritz 0.593 5.042 27 nolefan5311 0.592 3.265 46 Dako 0.590 2.816 64 Swimmerdude99 0.589 2.337 98 Egel 0.589 1.956 36 skillfull 0.588 3.015 83 xroads 0.583 2.082 87 Hook2 0.575 2.028 44 hopalong 0.569 2.876 56 samdemars 0.568 2.484 1 JPlo64 0.567 6.672 62 RobbieDub 0.566 2.361 40 grt 0.565 2.946 12 davekettering 0.562 4.119 51 mkcummins 0.560 2.559 72 IcePack 0.560 2.195 67 misteryforall 0.558 2.257 17 kjg21 0.557 3.669 66 fishydance 0.556 2.276 49 All Black Rugby 0.554 2.590 57 pconnolly365 0.551 2.474 31 woodsy2115 0.551 3.091 59 Juris 0.549 2.452 79 agentcom 0.549 2.151 34 PROFITS 0.547 3.049 10 aad0906 0.545 4.361 90 Odeuminus 0.543 1.993 3 Conchobar 0.541 5.600 77 Qyu 0.541 2.155 33 *Pixar* 0.538 3.050 4 Robespierre__ 0.535 5.558 69 MagnusGreeol 0.533 2.231 21 groovysmurf 0.532 3.481 91 Ltrain 0.530 1.986 22 Redfelt 0.530 3.460 18 MTIceman41 0.530 3.664 13 lokisgal 0.528 4.074 43 chard 0.524 2.879 35 Slaylark 0.523 3.045 86 cooldeals 0.522 2.038 94 hjelp 0.521 1.972 55 Condor 0.518 2.497 24 Iang7 0.518 3.354 80 Grond 2cd. 0.513 2.126 30 ender_w99 0.509 3.140 71 Caymanmew 0.505 2.207 85 JBoy 0.505 2.052
The second spoiler shows some real potential snubs from this vote.

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 8:37 pm
by rockfist
JPlo64 wrote:In my opinoin the no doubters are:
Josko.ri
Donelladan
Fyrdraca
JPlo64
mc05025
Goranz
rockfist

with fairman, osman76, rousseau72 right behind.

fairman is by far the most undervoted IMO.
I voted for those seven, (yup I voted for myself which might make me whatever) but I voted for two gentlemen that I’ve teamed Loutil and CoF with because I know more than many others what they bring to the games and it’s massive.

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 10:06 pm
by Swimmerdude99
JPlo64 wrote:In my opinoin the no doubters are:
Josko.ri
Donelladan
Fyrdraca
JPlo64
mc05025
Goranz
rockfist
That would basically be my list as well.

Hypo not making it into the hall of fame is also a real tragedy... though I don't actually know his total involvement over the years. He's a legend.

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Mon Jul 19, 2021 11:02 pm
by MTIceman41
JPlo64 wrote:
rockfist wrote:I suppose, but I wonder if a yes/no vote becomes a how much is this person liked contest, rather than how great of a CL player was this person. This is a list of who has been great, but it is also a list of rather large personalities because it takes some of that to be consistently great IMO. For the record I voted yes for some people that I do not usually get along with, because by any objective measure they have been great in CL...I do not know to what degree other people would do that.
My thought behind yes/no is that it's not about filling x spots, it's about getting above X% votes.
I think the current format is maybe more popularity b/c some ppl can just vote for the couple people they like as opposed to submitting a vote on each candidate.

I agree with Iceman, might be nice to have a selected panel (maybe CAT) to submit votes.
Kisses and yes…further this idea is great for the site and encourages healthy competition and admiration for the top talent…clan leader automatic vote in/player vote in combo perhaps

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Tue Jul 20, 2021 10:54 am
by Robespierre__
MTIceman41 wrote:
Nut Shot Scott wrote:
donche64 wrote:Nut Shot has done an amazing work, but he didn't (and obviously couldn't as it would be a true nightmare) take into account if you've been playing an away or home game, or if it's a dubs, a trips or a quad.
That being said there a 4 obvious HOF guys here…
I disagree with 4 .... I think there are 9 fully obvious votes. Differentiating the last 3 are tough (IMO). I definitely agree with the comment on Fairman and his three seasons. Is it better to be super brilliant in fewer appearances or compile w's at a lower rate over a longer period of time? :-s

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 11:35 am
by Nut Shot Scott
200 votes. awesome. 6 more days! Gonna be a race for those last couple of spots.

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 3:21 pm
by hyposquasher
Swimmerdude99 wrote:
JPlo64 wrote:In my opinoin the no doubters are:
Josko.ri
Donelladan
Fyrdraca
JPlo64
mc05025
Goranz
rockfist
That would basically be my list as well.

Hypo not making it into the hall of fame is also a real tragedy... though I don't actually know his total involvement over the years. He's a legend.
Thank you so much!

Maybe I lack the volume of some of the other guys. I took a several year break after ACE broke up.

Having looked at JPlo's post, I do lack the volume of the others mentioned (although not really that much less than mc0525). Not saying I should be on that list (that's for someone else to decide), but hey, #3 overall when sorted by win pct :D
JPlo64 wrote: Below is the top 100 volume CL players sorted by win% going down to 50%
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Player Win % # of Seasons 50 mc05025 0.705 2.563 6 josko.ri 0.702 5.055 73 hyposquasher 0.679 2.193 26 nokelberry 0.673 3.282 96 Junior Bee 0.660 1.968 52 jabajabba 0.649 2.549 74 fairman 0.648 2.187 84 Doc_Brown 0.643 2.064 63 Triple 6 0.642 2.353 14 t4mcr53s2 0.639 4.040 58 Bruceswar 0.637 2.464 23 Astoriana 0.636 3.381 9 rousseau72 0.631 4.552 29 loutil 0.629 3.164 15 GoranZ 0.629 4.036 11 ballenus 0.621 4.167 20 Chariot of Fire 0.619 3.546 25 rockfist 0.617 3.347 2 Fyrdraca 0.614 5.719 75 Denise 0.614 2.162 93 hudds 0.612 1.975 32 niMic 0.612 3.053 54 Swifte 0.609 2.500 53 donche64 0.604 2.531 19 Donelladan 0.602 3.589 8 osman76 0.600 4.753 65 jj3044 0.599 2.336 7 rcfritz 0.593 5.042 27 nolefan5311 0.592 3.265 46 Dako 0.590 2.816 64 Swimmerdude99 0.589 2.337 98 Egel 0.589 1.956 36 skillfull 0.588 3.015 83 xroads 0.583 2.082 87 Hook2 0.575 2.028 44 hopalong 0.569 2.876 56 samdemars 0.568 2.484 1 JPlo64 0.567 6.672 62 RobbieDub 0.566 2.361 40 grt 0.565 2.946 12 davekettering 0.562 4.119 51 mkcummins 0.560 2.559 72 IcePack 0.560 2.195 67 misteryforall 0.558 2.257 17 kjg21 0.557 3.669 66 fishydance 0.556 2.276 49 All Black Rugby 0.554 2.590 57 pconnolly365 0.551 2.474 31 woodsy2115 0.551 3.091 59 Juris 0.549 2.452 79 agentcom 0.549 2.151 34 PROFITS 0.547 3.049 10 aad0906 0.545 4.361 90 Odeuminus 0.543 1.993 3 Conchobar 0.541 5.600 77 Qyu 0.541 2.155 33 *Pixar* 0.538 3.050 4 Robespierre__ 0.535 5.558 69 MagnusGreeol 0.533 2.231 21 groovysmurf 0.532 3.481 91 Ltrain 0.530 1.986 22 Redfelt 0.530 3.460 18 MTIceman41 0.530 3.664 13 lokisgal 0.528 4.074 43 chard 0.524 2.879 35 Slaylark 0.523 3.045 86 cooldeals 0.522 2.038 94 hjelp 0.521 1.972 55 Condor 0.518 2.497 24 Iang7 0.518 3.354 80 Grond 2cd. 0.513 2.126 30 ender_w99 0.509 3.140 71 Caymanmew 0.505 2.207 85 JBoy 0.505 2.052

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:20 pm
by Nut Shot Scott
hyposquasher wrote:
Swimmerdude99 wrote:
JPlo64 wrote:In my opinoin the no doubters are:
Josko.ri
Donelladan
Fyrdraca
JPlo64
mc05025
Goranz
rockfist
That would basically be my list as well.

Hypo not making it into the hall of fame is also a real tragedy... though I don't actually know his total involvement over the years. He's a legend.
Thank you so much!

Maybe I lack the volume of some of the other guys. I took a several year break after ACE broke up.

Having looked at JPlo's post, I do lack the volume of the others mentioned (although not really that much less than mc0525). Not saying I should be on that list (that's for someone else to decide), but hey, #3 overall when sorted by win pct :D
FWIW, you were on the list of 60 initial members on the ballots. The way I framed the first round of voting hurt you, plus the group you were randomly placed in was a killer. The fact that only 2 of your seasons were played at over 50% capacity stings, too, when comparing numbers to players who consistently run over 70% capacity at a high level year after year.

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:48 pm
by hopalong
Nut Shot Scott wrote:Thank you so much!

Maybe I lack the volume of some of the other guys. I took a several year break after ACE broke up.

Having looked at JPlo's post, I do lack the volume of the others mentioned (although not really that much less than mc0525). Not saying I should be on that list (that's for someone else to decide), but hey, #3 overall when sorted by win pct :D
FWIW, you were on the list of 60 initial members on the ballots. The way I framed the first round of voting hurt you, plus the group you were randomly placed in was a killer. The fact that only 2 of your seasons were played at over 50% capacity stings, too, when comparing numbers to players who consistently run over 70% capacity at a high level year after year.[/quote]

#freehypo
#stolenerection

Re: Nut Shot's PD Hall of Fame - FINAL POLL, VOTE NOW

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2021 10:15 am
by iAmCaffeine
some of these votes look more like a popularity contest rather than voting actual deserving players