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Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2017 10:30 pm
by rockfist
I can confirm that Dawn of Ages is even...it went from shit they've got us to, we might have a chance, to we might have them, to shit they've got us to even...the dice are screwing with both sides huge.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:02 am
by donche64
rockfist wrote:I can confirm that Dawn of Ages is even...it went from shit they've got us to, we might have a chance, to we might have them, to shit they've got us to even...the dice are screwing with both sides huge.


So once again Dawn of Ages is an epic fight! Hope for your nerves that this time it ends better for you! ;)

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 9:46 am
by rockfist
If my nerves can handle walking out 600+ they can handle this :)

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 12:35 pm
by IcePack
Not the start I wanted, but we'll make a push!

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2017 1:05 pm
by Extreme Ways
IcePack wrote:Not the start I wanted, but we'll make a push!

Eh, it's pretty even overall. Your maps are harder to call and Poison Rome might swing FALL in the near future, you know what I'm talking about. Without any of these games, what kind of score did you expect when starting it and how many games did you expect to win in your homeset rd 1?

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 2:36 pm
by rockfist
I have us leading. I have it about 15-9 with the 7 undecided being:

Hive Doubs
FNA Quads
Stalingrad Quads
Conquer Rome Quads
Conquer Rome Trips
Spanish Armada Doubs
Dawn of Ages Doubs

Pot Mosbi Quads could flip back to Fallen with some luck
Antarctica Quads could go for us with some luck
USA2.1 could flip back to us with luck

A lot of the others are probably more solid.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 12:59 am
by IcePack
Extreme Ways wrote:
IcePack wrote:Not the start I wanted, but we'll make a push!

Eh, it's pretty even overall. Your maps are harder to call and Poison Rome might swing FALL in the near future, you know what I'm talking about. Without any of these games, what kind of score did you expect when starting it and how many games did you expect to win in your homeset rd 1?


Yeah, its harder cuz some of ours take longer usually. But I still have a general idea of my plan when I start war planning. I actually use a formula I developed to do some estimates on my anticipated scores. Obviously, its just an estimate used for planning / secondary info but I've found its generally pretty accurate.

Obviously, as I plan I only have half the picture (home games) and dont know the other half of the puzzle.

For this set, I had us at 16-15. I dont remember the home / away break down but I remember the total.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:05 pm
by rockfist
That makes me wonder if this "magic formula" is based on who takes the first turn in a game, since the 16-15 would equal that exactly.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:14 pm
by IcePack
rockfist wrote:That makes me wonder if this "magic formula" is based on who takes the first turn in a game, since the 16-15 would equal that exactly.


No, I run it during planning phase. So it's before games start ;)

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:33 pm
by Extreme Ways
IcePack wrote:
rockfist wrote:That makes me wonder if this "magic formula" is based on who takes the first turn in a game, since the 16-15 would equal that exactly.


No, I run it during planning phase. So it's before games start ;)

CC is rigged! Not just the dice, starting players too!

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 3:38 pm
by IcePack
Haha if the game was rigged I think we would be doing better than 8-15 that rockfist projects :p

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:15 pm
by Extreme Ways
I have it on 14-9 including tiebreaker.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:35 pm
by rockfist
That was some time ago that I wrote those scores. I know someone, who knows someone, who says that one of the then undecided games is now leaning you. And you guys flipped one, and we flipped one and the odds of it happening were small in each case. I'd kill for 15-8 vs 15-10, but its not reality...it never was in my mind I had 15-9.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Wed Jan 18, 2017 4:40 pm
by IcePack
I didn't look TBH I just posted what I remembered you saying a few days ago. Looks like I was 1 off of the original post. Not following the day to day changes in games (to busy w CR@W) but I did notice the Amtarctica Quads game :(

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Thu Jan 19, 2017 11:06 pm
by loutil
Certainly a lot of back and forth on Pot Mosbi. We got the early takeout for the lead. Nole responded with a 15% probability roll to complete a takeout and thrust you back into the lead. Not to be outdone, I unleashed my own 15% roll for another takeout 8-) and swung it back to favoring us. Many of my games seem more about drop and dice rather than skill. But that is likely the result of 2 strong teams playing each other.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2017 7:22 am
by Extreme Ways
loutil wrote:Many of my games seem more about drop and dice rather than skill. But that is likely the result of 2 strong teams playing each other.

Bamboo Jack was heavily leaning TOFU very early due to grt's dice being godlike. He killed 11 with just a 5 and a 6 in round 2, with a stack of 4 surviving, which killed their chances of ever breaking the +2 we held.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 2:24 pm
by Extreme Ways
More games are starting to lean one way or another now (with the exception of Spanish Armada, I flipped a coin to call that) and I estimate 19-12 TOFU over all games currently played.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 8:45 pm
by Extreme Ways
Game 17099184 has VEGAN.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:19 pm
by Doc_Brown
Extreme Ways wrote:Game 17099184 has VEGAN.

:lol: =D>

I was just thinking earlier today how much I'm enjoying not seeing so many "XX has Fallen" posts in here this year!

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 1-1

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2017 10:39 pm
by rockfist
Doc_Brown wrote:
Extreme Ways wrote:Game 17099184 has VEGAN.

:lol: =D>

I was just thinking earlier today how much I'm enjoying not seeing so many "XX has Fallen" posts in here this year!


The one I'd like to see is "Fallen has..." but we are a long way off from that so let's focus.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 13-5

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 7:46 pm
by Extreme Ways
Been real silent in here, both from insiders and outsiders. So another prediction?

14-5 in confirmed games
16-7 in confirmed + decided games
18-9 in confirmed + decided + leaning games
3 even games

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 13-5

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:04 pm
by rockfist
Nothing about this war has proceeded how I expected it to. I'll lose on some of my strongest boards and win on some of my weaker ones.

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 13-5

Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 8:51 pm
by IcePack
rockfist wrote:Nothing about this war has proceeded how I expected it to.


This pretty much sums up everything I've thought so far. EW has the score pretty much accurate as far as I can tell.
This will be one of the toughest tasks we ever faced, against one of the best competitors. :|

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 13-5

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 9:56 am
by Dako
Bring your best game then because you can do better!

Re: [CC6] Round 5: TOFU v FALL 13-5

Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2017 10:58 am
by IcePack
Dako wrote:Bring your best game then because you can do better!


Right now I think I'm personally sitting @ 0-5, 0%. So clearly, I can do better :lol: