Conquer Club

What is wrong with classic?

There are ton worse maps then that!

First off, it isn't the actual original. The borders are different. Second, it's time to move on with your life. Being stuck in the past is literally what causes old-age. Children are able to learn remarkably fast because rather than thinking about things like context, syntax etc. they just do things (like language) and get better at them. Only by constantly exposing your mind to new patterns can you even hope to maintain a youthful mind. If you thoroughly enjoy something, it's time to stop doing it and move on with your life. Capitalism is responsible for anti-intellectualism because it allows people to think that their own interests are important and to focus only on those to the exclusion of things that will save their life (by life, I mean brain).

Everyone who says they like Classic is brain-dead.

Dukasaur wrote:

xroads wrote:I know classic was obviously #1, but what were the next 9?

This is the kind of question you can look up on the Map Statistics page.
https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=maps

Bear in mind that if you are just thinking about the "maps" themselves that a number of maps were completely redrawn on several occasions due to a number of reasons. I know that both Classic and Canada were replaced with better graphics at one point.

tzor wrote:

Dukasaur wrote:

xroads wrote:I know classic was obviously #1, but what were the next 9?

This is the kind of question you can look up on the Map Statistics page.
https://www.conquerclub.com/public.php?mode=maps

Bear in mind that if you are just thinking about the "maps" themselves that a number of maps were completely redrawn on several occasions due to a number of reasons. I know that both Classic and Canada were replaced with better graphics at one point.

Sometimes the actual territories are changed as well. Far East has one less territory than Asia did and Classic has one less border than Classic did.

which border is missing?

Kamchatka-Mongolia aka Magadan-Manilla.

You can prove this to yourself by reading old game logs and seeing that at one point (before we revamped) the borders still connected.

Another major problem with the Maps page is that some maps are listed by date out of Beta and some maps are listed by dates into Beta. Having only one date when there is so much more going on between revamps and Beta-ing just doesn't make sense.

well, that's stupid.

riskllama wrote:well, that's stupid.

People told me you weren't capable of empathy. They were wrong. WELL DONE YOU, my special little snow flower

xroads wrote:So Jan 2, 2006 the site went live?

Sounds about right. Was fun in the early days, any win put you in the top 10.

oaktown wrote:It should be noted that half of those first ten maps - including Classic - have been redone since their release date and resemble the originals in gameplay only.

The only thing they changed about classic was the region names, trying not to be sued.

trevor33 wrote:

oaktown wrote:It should be noted that half of those first ten maps - including Classic - have been redone since their release date and resemble the originals in gameplay only.

The only thing they changed about classic was the region names, trying not to be sued.

that is absolutely false. you can't even SEE the old classic map on the site/create game!!! what are you even talking about?!! even the archived games of the first matches have had the original classic map replaced!!!-Bj

owenshooter wrote:

trevor33 wrote:

oaktown wrote:It should be noted that half of those first ten maps - including Classic - have been redone since their release date and resemble the originals in gameplay only.

The only thing they changed about classic was the region names, trying not to be sued.

that is absolutely false. you can't even SEE the old classic map on the site/create game!!! what are you even talking about?!! even the archived games of the first matches have had the original classic map replaced!!!-Bj

You can't see the old map for legal reasons. They changed the least amount possible to keep the map... which was changing the names and some light border change.

trevor33 wrote:You can't see the old map for legal reasons. They changed the least amount possible to keep the map... which was changing the names and some light border change.

again, 100% incorrect. the old classic and the new classic look nothing alike

here is the original classic that launched with the site:


the updated version after classic shapes and classic art were retired upon this maps completion:



they are not the same map with some light border and name changes...
i hope you are now satisfied... the black jesus has educated the masses...-Bj

Are you a CC lawyer? Get your head out of your ass, any idiot can see they're basically the same map with a few minor differences. The oiginal is the original Hasbro map which they were forced to change, imo the new map does look better on a small screen but that's a different discussion.

trevor33 wrote:Are you a CC lawyer? Get your head out of your ass, any idiot can see they're basically the same map with a few minor differences. The oiginal is the original Hasbro map which they were forced to change, imo the new map does look better on a small screen but that's a different discussion.

you do realize you just changed your argument, right? a few times now. and each time, you were still wrong

trevor33 wrote:They changed the least amount possible to keep the map... which was changing the names and some light border change.

trevor33 wrote:The only thing they changed about classic was the region names, trying not to be sued.

i posted the maps. they are not the same. you can not dispute this. just say, "wow, i was wholly wrong," and move on. you can't change your argument after being so stoic about it. you were proven wrong, the black jesus is always right... and way to further the discourse with your baiting... the black jesus has spoken..-Bj

p.s.-i'm not a CC lawyer, i just don't like incorrect cc knowledge being passed about the forums... care to discuss classic shapes and art, next? they are just a few tweaks too...

owen thinks graphics has something to do with maps. Maps are just vertices and the lines that connect them. Graphics are a waste of time.

DoomYoshi wrote:owen thinks graphics has something to do with maps. Maps are just vertices and the lines that connect them. Graphics are a waste of time.

OOOhhhhhh!!!! i get it!!! thanks!!!-Bj