Conquer Club

Yep, I owe the thread an update. Will probably have to happen tomorrow night.

Looks like you will fail in your quest of winning 20 games in the first set, as we are on the board.

rockfist wrote:Looks like you will fail in your quest of winning 20 games in the first set, as we are on the board.

We didn't want to hurt your feelings

I see TOFU up by one right now overall w plenty unfinished round 1's

TOG has Fallen! 2-2

It's so early, most games remain toss-ups (or reasonably close to toss ups).

I have it at 8-8-24, which is to say I have no idea. Others would have it different.

rockfist wrote:It's so early, most games remain toss-ups (or reasonably close to toss ups).

I have it at 8-8-24, which is to say I have no idea. Others would have it different.

Hahahaha yeah it is very early everyday it can make big swings one way or the other yet.

But for now - Antarctica dubs have FALLEN! 3-2

IcePack wrote:TOG has Fallen! 2-2

Saw that coming. Triple 6 knows what he's doing.

City Mogul Trips has Fallen! 4-2!

Antarctica Quads has Fallen! 5-2!

Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

Well said, especially from a clan using City Mogul and two lots of WWII Poland.

Silly.

iAmCaffeine wrote:

nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

Well said, especially from a clan using City Mogul and two lots of WWII Poland.

Silly.

Why don't you go away? You were asked to leave the LHDD thread alone because all you were doing was flaming, and now you're popping up here to flame again.

nolefan5311 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:

nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

Well said, especially from a clan using City Mogul and two lots of WWII Poland.

Silly.

Why don't you go away? You were asked to leave the LHDD thread alone because all you were doing was flaming, and now you're popping up here to flame again.

he is right though. It's pretty funny to hear that comment from your clan given all your home maps involving first turn drop, and his examples are perfect. There is no flaming in his comment, he's just giving his opinion, chill out.

betiko wrote:

nolefan5311 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:

nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

Well said, especially from a clan using City Mogul and two lots of WWII Poland.

Silly.

Why don't you go away? You were asked to leave the LHDD thread alone because all you were doing was flaming, and now you're popping up here to flame again.

he is right though. It's pretty funny to hear that comment from your clan given all your home maps involving first turn drop, and his examples are perfect. There is no flaming in his comment, he's just giving his opinion, chill out.

To be fair, I pick the Fallen's home maps. So if you want to bash on someone for using something you should be targetting me.
As far as I'm concerned, if I feel like I can win using a map (whether its Stalingrad, Luxembourg, Rail Africa, City Mogul or Lunar War) I am going to use it to the betterment of the clan. I'm sure thats what TOFU did, we have to expect them to utilize maps they feel they can beat us in as well.

Bottom line, no matter what the map we are all here to have some fun and win some games.

nolefan5311 wrote:

iAmCaffeine wrote:

nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

Well said, especially from a clan using City Mogul and two lots of WWII Poland.

Silly.

Why don't you go away? You were asked to leave the LHDD thread alone because all you were doing was flaming, and now you're popping up here to flame again.

Like betiko said, I haven't flamed at all, not unless "silly" is being classed as a flame, in which case you're flaming too. You're also grossly exaggerating what happened in the LHDD thread. This is the CC5 finals so expect others to take interest.

You're sitting in a greenhouse full of boulders.

IcePack wrote:To be fair, I pick the Fallen's home maps. So if you want to bash on someone for using something you should be targetting me.
As far as I'm concerned, if I feel like I can win using a map (whether its Stalingrad, Luxembourg, Rail Africa, City Mogul or Lunar War) I am going to use it to the betterment of the clan. I'm sure thats what TOFU did, we have to expect them to utilize maps they feel they can beat us in as well.

Bottom line, no matter what the map we are all here to have some fun and win some games.

The point is the hypocrisy of criticising another clan's home maps whilst fielding similarly luck-based ones yourselves. Although it's not so much plural, more just nolefan.

iAmCaffeine wrote:The point is the hypocrisy of criticising another clan's home maps whilst fielding similarly luck-based ones yourselves. Although it's not so much plural, more just nolefan.

Everyone has an opinion on maps and their "luck factor". I'm sure TOFU could play us on Lunar War and "luckily" beat us 80 times out of a 100. I'm sure there are a few maps that others would also consider lucky that we could play and do the same thing. So I find the notion of it being luck based (on either side) amusing, if it was all luck you would expect to see it much closer over time.

iAmCaffeine please don't go. I enjoy your posts and this thread is too quiet anyway.

Dako wrote:iAmCaffeine please don't go. I enjoy your posts and this thread is too quiet anyway.

Can't go without early morning coffee!

IcePack wrote:

Dako wrote:iAmCaffeine please don't go. I enjoy your posts and this thread is too quiet anyway.

Can't go without early morning coffee!

It's 7.30 PM in Russia. And I don't drink coffee :(.

nolefan5311 wrote:Lunar War is the dumbest map ever. Hey, lets hope for amazing dice on our first turns so that we can grab our bases before the opponent. If we get great dice on the first turn it's guaranteed win. If we don't its almost a guaranteed loss.

Silly.

If it weren't for luck I personally would never win.

Dako wrote:

IcePack wrote:

Dako wrote:iAmCaffeine please don't go. I enjoy your posts and this thread is too quiet anyway.

Can't go without early morning coffee!

It's 7.30 PM in Russia. And I don't drink coffee .

Where is iAmVodka when you need him?

Glad I could apparently jump start this thread.

And it was a moment of frustration, seeing TOFU players grab 7 regions on their first turn to me and my partner grabbing 3 and effectively ending the game before it could get started. Lunar War is one of those "lucky" maps, there really isn't a question about it, when good one good turn of dice can jump your deploy from 3 to 9. I'm not going to debate City Mogul or WWII Poland because I don't much play those maps, but my experiences on Poland is that it's just like any other conquest map. And more to the point, my comment wasn't so much chastising TOFU for picking that map as it was general annoyance after a loss on a map I think is silly.

As far as our favorite CC5 spectator is concerned, he does nothing more than sit in waiting for a Fallen member to post so he can chime in to defend whatever clan we happen to be facing. He sat there in the LHDD thread for weeks giving Fallen members shit, and he's doing the same thing here. It would be different if he had substantive input about the war in general, perhaps some running commentary about wins and losses or close games or something. Instead, he just wants to be a pain in the ass.

He's probably the only non TOFU person we have cheering for us.

On a conquest map what makes it 100% luck based or not 100% luck based is simply asking is there more than one viable way to play it based on drop? Hell we aren't playing chess, every map has luck.

I like my coffee roasted - sets up deckchair and opens the Jaffa Cakes (present from Shannon Apple)

rockfist wrote:He's probably the only non TOFU person we have cheering for us.

On a conquest map what makes it 100% luck based or not 100% luck based is simply asking is there more than one viable way to play it based on drop? Hell we aren't playing chess, every map has luck.

I agree 100%. Every map has some luck involved. It's just that particular map, in my experience, especially on doubles, is that good dice on the first turn jumps your deploy up so much that it's hard to overcome. Even maps like Galapagos, etc, are very, very difficult to get such a large advantage after one turn of good dice. When I was a Foundry mod, I doubt that map would have been passed through because of that very reason.

Anyway, I'm done. This war has been fun so far.

And Pot Mosbi quads has Fallen