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Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 1:48 pm
by thegreekdog
MoB Deadly wrote:BPB also joined the game long after TNC had already joined. Not sure why a snap was not taken upon joining. That would have avoided the issue as well.
And yet there is a rule that's been violated. Go figure, right? Seems that such a rule is unnecessary if everyone could just take a snap when joining.
Just out of curiousity, when I violate the rule in one of these games, what will be the punishment? Frankly, watching any soccer game might be punishment enough.
Re: BpB -v- TNC
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:32 pm
by BGtheBrain
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Re: BpB -v- TNC
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:39 pm
by thegreekdog
BGtheBrain wrote:Fruitcake wrote:Rules of Engagement:
- Fog Courtesy is in effect, the rule does not apply to conquest maps or where the starting team just deploys/forts without attacks. In the event that it is broken, team that has broken the rule must reveal the move
So the punishment for violating the fog rule is to reveal the move
So I wouldn't have to watch soccer? Phew.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 2:45 pm
by dazza2008
I played before they looked without thinking. I have lots of games going so normally just get them done. We posted what I did so what is the problem?
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:09 pm
by Fruitcake
I think this cup is staggering. I want one too.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 3:45 pm
by TheMissionary
Fruitcake wrote:I think this cup is staggering. I want one too.
Some day, young grasshopper, some day!
BpB by 4.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:21 pm
by thegreekdog
dazza2008 wrote:I played before they looked without thinking. I have lots of games going so normally just get them done. We posted what I did so what is the problem?
Great question! According to clan war rules, by playing before they looked you violated the fog rule, the punishment for which appears to be having to declare the move you made publicly. Additionally, we've found out in this thread that it is incumbent (or should be incumbent) upon team two to "snap" the map when the players join to avoid the type of situation that the rule looks to avoid. I admittedly do not know what that situation is, but it is undoubtedly some type of unfairness.
In sum, like much in life, for example anti-drug laws and laws against armed robbery, no one knows why we have the rules and what the problem is when we violate them.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:35 pm
by dazza2008
thegreekdog wrote:dazza2008 wrote:I played before they looked without thinking. I have lots of games going so normally just get them done. We posted what I did so what is the problem?
Great question! According to clan war rules, by playing before they looked you violated the fog rule, the punishment for which appears to be having to declare the move you made publicly. Additionally, we've found out in this thread that it is incumbent (or should be incumbent) upon team two to "snap" the map when the players join to avoid the type of situation that the rule looks to avoid. I admittedly do not know what that situation is, but it is undoubtedly some type of unfairness.
In sum, like much in life, for example anti-drug laws and laws against armed robbery, no one knows why we have the rules and what the problem is when we violate them.
Yes but we posted the moves I made. I don't get why it is still being discussed.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:09 pm
by thegreekdog
dazza2008 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:dazza2008 wrote:I played before they looked without thinking. I have lots of games going so normally just get them done. We posted what I did so what is the problem?
Great question! According to clan war rules, by playing before they looked you violated the fog rule, the punishment for which appears to be having to declare the move you made publicly. Additionally, we've found out in this thread that it is incumbent (or should be incumbent) upon team two to "snap" the map when the players join to avoid the type of situation that the rule looks to avoid. I admittedly do not know what that situation is, but it is undoubtedly some type of unfairness.
In sum, like much in life, for example anti-drug laws and laws against armed robbery, no one knows why we have the rules and what the problem is when we violate them.
Yes but we posted the moves I made. I don't get why it is still being discussed.
I don't disagree. But I'm questioning why we have this rule in the first place and the effectiveness of the punishment given that it apparently does not deter folks (much like drug users and armed robbers aren't deterred by laws). I'm clearly no expert.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 5:16 pm
by dazza2008
thegreekdog wrote:dazza2008 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:dazza2008 wrote:I played before they looked without thinking. I have lots of games going so normally just get them done. We posted what I did so what is the problem?
Great question! According to clan war rules, by playing before they looked you violated the fog rule, the punishment for which appears to be having to declare the move you made publicly. Additionally, we've found out in this thread that it is incumbent (or should be incumbent) upon team two to "snap" the map when the players join to avoid the type of situation that the rule looks to avoid. I admittedly do not know what that situation is, but it is undoubtedly some type of unfairness.
In sum, like much in life, for example anti-drug laws and laws against armed robbery, no one knows why we have the rules and what the problem is when we violate them.
Yes but we posted the moves I made. I don't get why it is still being discussed.
I don't disagree. But I'm questioning why we have this rule in the first place and the effectiveness of the punishment given that it apparently does not deter folks (much like drug users and armed robbers aren't deterred by laws). I'm clearly no expert.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 6:41 pm
by Conde180711
MoB Deadly wrote:Sorry BPB about that Fog Violation. That is out of character, and that is why we put it in the Game Label for an extra reminder.
We revealed the move as quickly as we possibly could, but not before the damage was done.
RET did this in our active war against them so we know how it feels. Hopefully it was not too detrimental to that particular game.
Let me know when you are able to make your home maps so we can get the rest of the first round underway!
which game out of interest because RET would not do this without revealing the exact move and anything previously visible, did you mean this one?
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=13902905
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:02 pm
by thegreekdog
dazza2008 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:dazza2008 wrote:thegreekdog wrote:dazza2008 wrote:I played before they looked without thinking. I have lots of games going so normally just get them done. We posted what I did so what is the problem?
Great question! According to clan war rules, by playing before they looked you violated the fog rule, the punishment for which appears to be having to declare the move you made publicly. Additionally, we've found out in this thread that it is incumbent (or should be incumbent) upon team two to "snap" the map when the players join to avoid the type of situation that the rule looks to avoid. I admittedly do not know what that situation is, but it is undoubtedly some type of unfairness.
In sum, like much in life, for example anti-drug laws and laws against armed robbery, no one knows why we have the rules and what the problem is when we violate them.
Yes but we posted the moves I made. I don't get why it is still being discussed.
I don't disagree. But I'm questioning why we have this rule in the first place and the effectiveness of the punishment given that it apparently does not deter folks (much like drug users and armed robbers aren't deterred by laws). I'm clearly no expert.
Good, I'm glad you also agree that this is an unnecessary rule.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 7:39 pm
by Vace Cooper
Are we all suppose to be posting our moves? I wish I could just see whats going on.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Wed Feb 12, 2014 8:01 pm
by owenshooter
dazza2008 wrote:Yes but we posted the moves I made. I don't get why it is still being discussed.
it is still being discussed being Fog is not supposed to be used in clan wars. that is why it is being discussed and it is why you should forfeit accordingly or team CC should award us the victory for the violation... the black jesus has spoken from up on his mountain top...-el Jesus negro
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 12:27 am
by squishyg
dazza2008 wrote:I don't SEE why it is still being discussed.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 7:42 am
by iAmCaffeine
owenshooter wrote:dazza2008 wrote:Yes but we posted the moves I made. I don't get why it is still being discussed.
it is still being discussed being Fog is not supposed to be used in clan wars. that is why it is being discussed and it is why you should forfeit accordingly or team CC should award us the victory for the violation... the black jesus has spoken from up on his mountain top...-el Jesus negro
Calm down Gary.
Also:
squishyg wrote:dazza2008 wrote:I don't SEE why it is still being discussed.
Yes! Bravo.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:27 pm
by cooldeals
owenshooter do you happen to be related to eddie2?
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 3:33 pm
by cooldeals
Fruitcake wrote:I think this cup is staggering. I want one too.
It's your lucky day!
I do believe you deserve one for your exemplary sportsmanship and good humor. That didn't all fit on the little word box so this will have to do.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 4:18 pm
by betiko
wow, BPB still exists?? that's big news.
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Thu Feb 13, 2014 6:45 pm
by MoB Deadly
That is shiny
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 8:13 pm
by MoB Deadly
Where are BPB's Home games?
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Fri Feb 14, 2014 10:18 pm
by betiko
MoB Deadly wrote:Where are BPB's Home games?
and how did you transform in a japanese toddler stuckinamaki?
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 11:12 am
by Fruitcake
MoB Deadly wrote:Where are BPB's Home games?
What do you mean?
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:16 pm
by MoB Deadly
You need to make 3 Quads, 3 Trips, 3 Doubles, and 2 Poly For BPBs first Set.
Then in like 2 weeks, you need to make your second set, and TNC will wrap up with their second set
Re: BpB -v- TNC (begins 6th Feb 2014)
Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2014 12:19 pm
by Keefie
Fruitcake wrote:MoB Deadly wrote:Where are BPB's Home games?
What do you mean?
TNC have created their first set of games for this war. They are waiting for BpB to do the same.
You guys have been out of things for a while so if you need any assistance please don't hesitate to contact myself or any of the other CD's.