Conquer Club

patrickaa317 wrote:I get that the dice work this way and could definitely be improved but love when people say "I expect something different than what actually happened, therefore it is not random."

Perhaps what loutil should have said was "I expect that in order to fit the definition of random, all dice numbers should have an equal chance of occurring, and there should be no obvious bias where some numbers consistently appear more often than others. It has been shown without question that this is not the case, and administration representatives have admitted as much, therefore the dice are not random."

... but that seems a little long-winded.

Ultimately the numbers you roll don't really mean anything at all. I don't even really look at which numbers come up on my rolls anymore. Whenever you roll to attack there are only 2 or 3 meaningful results possible, depending on the number of dice involved. The numbers displayed aren't really necessary now that the game has moved has away from using actual dice to generate the results. You shouldn't worry about the dice distribution. You should look at the battle outcomes and see if those match up to what they theoretically should.

Gabriel13 wrote:

Fruitcake wrote:It matters little what you roll. The important point is what is rolled against you. The die are rubbish on this site, they always have been and always will be

I'll never understand how you how 2000+ games played, but less than 25,000 rolls.

Because many of my games were from the times when these things weren't recorded.

Priceless!

I don't normally bitch about dice but god damn they be shit over the past week or so... cost be around 200 points.

spiesr wrote:Ultimately the numbers you roll don't really mean anything at all. ... You shouldn't worry about the dice distribution. You should look at the battle outcomes and see if those match up to what they theoretically should.

I'd already determined (at least to my own satisfaction) that this bug is virtually undetectable based on battle outcomes. But that doesn't mean that the issue should be put on the back burner until they can find nothing else to work on. People often complain about the dice, and when it can be shown that they are not random, that just gives more (false) justification to those complaints, and hurts the integrity of the site. Fixing the dice shouldn't be that difficult, and should have come before Website facelifts, Profile Score Ranges, Bots and other minor enhancements.

trevor33 wrote:I don't normally bitch about dice but god damn they be shit over the past week or so... cost be around 200 points.

Isn't it great that we can check your games, to see that you have lost only a few (one) games in the past week (more like two) or so which proves your statement to be 100% horse crap.

You suck because you're tactics suck, not because of bad luck...touche, beotch!

If they are then it is somehow being manipulated or corrupted.

It is really fun to read this thread after being away for a couple of years. Nothing changes.

Cheers!

ashleyco wrote:If they are then it is somehow being manipulated or corrupted.

The dice aren't being manipulated. They are incorrect for so many reasons. Not least fo which is that the age old problem of the 'sticky' style they roll in.

I see, once again, my battle outcomes are sliding deeper into negative territory.

ashleyco wrote:If they are then it is somehow being manipulated or corrupted.

Interesting that dice complaint threads have gotten predictable enough the spambots can make posts which fit right in. I wonder what it would take to outsource the usual responses to them as well...

spiesr wrote:

ashleyco wrote:If they are then it is somehow being manipulated or corrupted.

Interesting that dice complaint threads have gotten predictable enough the spambots can make posts which fit right in. I wonder what it would take to outsource the usual responses to them as well...

Just the sort of verminous partisan response one expects from a member of the mod team. Interesting that these verminous nasty little people have gotten (sic) predictable enough the paying public can predict with ease the self important, self righteous, smug, self satisfied posts which fit right in with their characters.

14 sixes in a row. thats almost 3 yahtzees. and not in my favor of course. I think the Random gets stuck from time to time.