Conquer Club Park [Abandoned]

peteeson10 · Post by **peteeson10** » Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:54 pm

very very good idea. I love baseball!

musicman_379 · Post by **musicman_379** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:51 am

GreecePwns wrote:I love this idea. It would be fun to play. However, I would like to see some kind of background. Also, will there be copyright issues with the ESPN space?

Searching http://www.espn.com, I found nothing on "ESPN" being copyrighted except for the "ESPN font" logo. Also, I have not heard of other media outlets being sued for copyright infringement for using the "word" ESPN in their stories.

Suntzu · Post by **Suntzu** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:52 am

i like it,,,,,,,,please proceed.

Keredrex · Post by **Keredrex** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:06 pm

I think you need an impassable border between Suites & Press box.... Something seems funny about that amount of defending territories for the bonus.. I could be wrong of course... otherwise Awesome... maybe better colors but not bad.. Batter is a little hard to read... try making the font Yellow or White

alster · Post by **alster** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:13 pm

I'm not really into posting in here, never gotten into the whole map making process (to busy playing all the great maps coming out of here I guess).

But - here, let me throw in my two cents.

The idea is nice. Don't mind it.

But - why have a "CC park"? Why not make a map modelled after a real stadium? That's much nicer, and it gives a sense of reality (in whatever sense playing a Risk-like online game on a board modelled after a ballpark could give a sense of reality). Perhaps the new Shea Stadium? (Which will be an awesome stadium btw, check out the virtual tour on their website.) Naming it New Shea Stadium would also be a proper name (hate it when corporations buy the name of stadiums, God damn annoying).

0ojakeo0 · Post by **0ojakeo0** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 2:57 pm

i like it

steveontrial · Post by **steveontrial** » Sun Jun 24, 2007 10:13 pm

im not sure im a fan of the length of the upper deck, but it looks playable

musicman_379 · Post by **musicman_379** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:46 pm

Keredrex wrote:I think you need an impassable border between Suites & Press box.... Something seems funny about that amount of defending territories for the bonus.. I could be wrong of course... otherwise Awesome... maybe better colors but not bad.. Batter is a little hard to read... try making the font Yellow or White

Looking closely at that, changing the font color to white makes sense. So does that impassable border, and doing so probably fixes the bonus, too.

alstergren wrote:But - why have a "CC park"? Why not make a map modelled after a real stadium? That's much nicer, and it gives a sense of reality (in whatever sense playing a Risk-like online game on a board modelled after a ballpark could give a sense of reality). Perhaps the new Shea Stadium? (Which will be an awesome stadium btw, check out the virtual tour on their website.) Naming it New Shea Stadium would also be a proper name (hate it when corporations buy the name of stadiums, God damn annoying).

Three things with this:
First, doing so would be a complete rebuild. With the XML file comming up soon, I would rather spend time and effort on this rather than extensive graphics work.

Second, the copyright process did not get me very far. I had planned to base this map on Fenway Park, but the current stadium seating maps on http://www.mlb.com are Flash-based rather than jpegs. Searching another site did net a jpeg, but the site did not own the image. A subsequent inquiry on using the image got me nowhere, and I then decided to turn the map into a "general" baseball stadium.

Third, I personally feel that using a "general" version does not take away from the realism of the map, especially athletic event stadiums. Take a look at CCU. It probably is not based on a specific university, just a "general" one, with aspects found at many universities.

Step 4 comming soon! http://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1685

musicman_379 · Post by **musicman_379** » Mon Jun 25, 2007 5:48 pm

Draft 3:

Changes From Previous Version:
Batter attack to Upper Deck (Section 311)
Batter reshape and recolor

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 3:26 am

now it needs some textures. right now its rather flat and boaring

musicman_379 · Post by **musicman_379** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 6:53 pm

gimil wrote:now it needs some textures. right now its rather flat and boaring

I wish I knew how to do that on Inkscape. Some assistance on that would be helpful.
Textures may require me to use a different program to finish the graphics.

thegeneralpublic · Post by **thegeneralpublic** » Tue Jun 26, 2007 7:44 pm

Obviously the graphics are going to need some work, but that's not as important right now. I don't know if it's just me, but the suites seem like they should have one less outlet for a bonus of only two. Maybe close off the 207 border? And the bleachers are much too easy to defend for a bonus of six. Drop it to four or five, at most. The mezzanie, however, could easily be worth six. Upper deck and field level I think are okay. Batter should probably be only -1. Field can be dropped to seven, because if you defend it properly, you'll have the batter as well and it will drop to five. This is just my opinion on the bonuses; someone will find something glaringly wrong with them, I'm sure.

musicman_379 · Post by **musicman_379** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:02 pm

thegeneralpublic wrote:Obviously the graphics are going to need some work, but that's not as important right now. I don't know if it's just me, but the suites seem like they should have one less outlet for a bonus of only two. Maybe close off the 207 border? And the bleachers are much too easy to defend for a bonus of six. Drop it to four or five, at most. The mezzanie, however, could easily be worth six. Upper deck and field level I think are okay. Batter should probably be only -1. Field can be dropped to seven, because if you defend it properly, you'll have the batter as well and it will drop to five. This is just my opinion on the bonuses; someone will find something glaringly wrong with them, I'm sure.

Thanks for the input. I had a feeing that the bonuses would have to be tweaked. I'll make some changes to the bonuses.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:10 pm

musicman_379 wrote:
gimil wrote:now it needs some textures. right now its rather flat and boaring

I wish I knew how to do that on Inkscape. Some assistance on that would be helpful.
Textures may require me to use a different program to finish the graphics.

can u download and install brushes in inkspot?

musicman_379 · Post by **musicman_379** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:38 pm

Draft 4:

Changes From Previous Update:
Color on Batter changed to white
Impassable border between press box and suites
307 has passable border with Robinson intstead of Clemente
22px dia. army circles on large map
Bonus Changes-- Suites 2 to 3, Mezzanine 5 to 6, Bleachers 6 to 5, Batter -2 to -1, Field 8 to 7

draglin3 · Post by **draglin3** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 8:21 pm

I definitely will enjoy playing this. Also, personally I would not add texturesto the map. RIght now it looks like it was taken striaght from a baseball program or media guide, and I like that idea

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:17 am

it needs textures it jsut far to plain.

Night Strike · Post by **Night Strike** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 11:11 pm

The Bullpens need to be on each end of the outfield instead of together. No baseball field has the bullpens together. They can both be part of the field, just not together.

You also need a colored border around the field instead of just the black lines.

I think the continents would look better if they are blocked (like section A, B, C, etc) instead of rows (100, 200, 300). I'm not sure how that would work, but I think it would make the map better liked.

thegeneralpublic · Post by **thegeneralpublic** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:46 am

I see what draglin3 is saying about the texture and such. However, I think the map WOULD benefit from some field texture. Also, I love how the dirt is present in the field, but it's really awkward to have the batter be just plain brown. I think it would be better just to continue the regular dirt patterns into the batter's box. Highlighting the border or something would be sufficient enough to separate it from the rest of the field.

draglin3 · Post by **draglin3** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:02 pm

Night Strike wrote:The Bullpens need to be on each end of the outfield instead of together. No baseball field has the bullpens together. They can both be part of the field, just not together.

Some do and some do not. Off the top of my head I know boh Fenway and Safeco's bullpens touch

Daring Overlord5 · Post by **Daring Overlord5** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:05 pm

How about mower lines for texture on the field,

like this

[size=0]in no way do i like the cardinals[/size]

draglin3 · Post by **draglin3** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:36 pm

Daring Overlord5 wrote:How about mower lines for texture on the field,

like this

[size=0]in no way do i like the cardinals[/size]

Yes but have it be the Red Sox logo :P

thegeneralpublic · Post by **thegeneralpublic** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:16 pm

Naw, make it the CC logo. We don't want to get into that whole Yankees / Red Sox thing.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:27 am

bullpens are excessively large.

gimil · Post by **gimil** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:28 am

u also should include all the players on the field.