Conquer Club

Funkyterrance wrote:I tend to feel that hating dead people is a bit silly.

Pedronicus wrote:

Mr Changsha wrote:

Pedronicus wrote:Good News! Margaret Thatcher died today. Rot in hell you piece of shit.

Disgraceful.

Disgraceful? What experience of her policies have either you or scotty had to endure?

She destroyed the British coal industry, putting thousands directly out of work, hundreds of thousands indirectly out of work. Entire communities ruined and then helped the trade deficit into the red by importing cheaper coal.
If you are living in a country like Japan with little to no natural resources, then sure, import what you need. But if you have coal in your country, then it's far better to pay your countrymen to dig it out of the ground, than to make them unemployed.

Sure, the opencast mined coal from Germany and Australia is a lot cheaper, but did we get cheaper energy? Did we f*ck.

She privatised the utilities based on the claim that the private sector runs things more efficiently. Which is total bollocks because now virtually every energy company is based overseas and a private sector company is there to make a profit.

Where did all of the money go that these private companies paid to take over running the utilities? I have no idea... None of it seemed to filter down to the average person in Britain.

She decided to sell off the social housing with massive discounts to the lucky few who could afford to buy their council houses. None of that money was reinvested in building more social housing.
The repercussions of that piece of legislation are still with us now. House prices rocketed beyond the reach of normal people. The shortfall of social housing was filled by buy to let landlords, charging rents to a council that cost more than before.

So what she did to this country was to make housing, water, electricity, and gas (basic living requirements) more expensive.

So if I come across as disgraceful, please excuse me, but this bitch fucked up this country for the majority, whilst making a select few very very rich.

When Diana died, people threw flowers on the bonnet of the hearse.

When her hearse drives down the road, expect a lot of dog shit, bottles and bricks to be thrown at the hearse.

crispybits wrote:I'd rather have politicians like her back, even if I disagreed with their policies, than the bunch of washed out lame talking heads we've had since '97 (including the current lot).

At least she stuck to her principles and accomplished her goals, whatever you think of the morality of those goals (which pretty much comes down to a class divide for the most part)

Just look at Greece now - imagine they'd had a leader willing to stand up to union pressure that spiralled the public wage bill so far out of control it was a major factor in bankrupting the country.

jimboston wrote:

Gypsys Kiss wrote:

Mr Changsha wrote:

Pedronicus wrote:Good News! Margaret Thatcher died today. Rot in hell you piece of shit.

Disgraceful.

+1

+2

chang50 wrote:I won't be back home for any of the street parties,ah well,maybe I can raise a quiet glass on the other side of the world.

crispybits wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:This is me not getting involved in UK politics. Hint hint.

Good for you for being isolationist and not taking part in engaging with global political discussions. I take it you won't be commenting on anything to do with North Korea, or Afghanistan, or Iran either?

thegreekdog wrote:

crispybits wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:This is me not getting involved in UK politics. Hint hint.

Good for you for being isolationist and not taking part in engaging with global political discussions. I take it you won't be commenting on anything to do with North Korea, or Afghanistan, or Iran either?

Correct, except as it relates to the United States being involved with those countries. Also, I think you're confusing the word isolationist and the phrase "not being an asshole." Brits that comment on US politics are being assholes. Brits that don't comment on US politics are not being assholes; they aren't isolationists though.

thegreekdog wrote:

crispybits wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:This is me not getting involved in UK politics. Hint hint.

Good for you for being isolationist and not taking part in engaging with global political discussions. I take it you won't be commenting on anything to do with North Korea, or Afghanistan, or Iran either?

Brits that comment on US politics are being assholes.

Mr Changsha wrote:

Pedronicus wrote:Good News! Margaret Thatcher died today. Rot in hell you piece of shit.

Disgraceful.

'Whatever else may be true of her, Thatcher engaged in incredibly consequential acts that affected millions of people around the world. She played a key role not only in bringing about the first Gulf War but also using her influence to publicly advocate for the 2003 attack on Iraq. She denounced Nelson Mandela and his ANC as "terrorists", something even David Cameron ultimately admitted was wrong. She was a steadfast friend to brutal tyrants such as Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein and Indonesian dictator General Suharto ("One of our very best and most valuable friends"). And as my Guardian colleague Seumas Milne detailed last year, "across Britain Thatcher is still hated for the damage she inflicted – and for her political legacy of rampant inequality and greed, privatisation and social breakdown."'

Pander88uk wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

crispybits wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:This is me not getting involved in UK politics. Hint hint.

Good for you for being isolationist and not taking part in engaging with global political discussions. I take it you won't be commenting on anything to do with North Korea, or Afghanistan, or Iran either?

Correct, except as it relates to the United States being involved with those countries. Also, I think you're confusing the word isolationist and the phrase "not being an asshole." Brits that comment on US politics are being assholes. Brits that don't comment on US politics are not being assholes; they aren't isolationists though.

I think there's a difference between commenting/giving a point of view , and preaching. Those who preach about politics where it doesn't affect them certainly are assholes.

Symmetry wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

crispybits wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:This is me not getting involved in UK politics. Hint hint.

Good for you for being isolationist and not taking part in engaging with global political discussions. I take it you won't be commenting on anything to do with North Korea, or Afghanistan, or Iran either?

Brits that comment on US politics are being assholes.

Why?

jonesthecurl wrote:

'Whatever else may be true of her, Thatcher engaged in incredibly consequential acts that affected millions of people around the world. She played a key role not only in bringing about the first Gulf War but also using her influence to publicly advocate for the 2003 attack on Iraq. She denounced Nelson Mandela and his ANC as "terrorists", something even David Cameron ultimately admitted was wrong. She was a steadfast friend to brutal tyrants such as Augusto Pinochet, Saddam Hussein and Indonesian dictator General Suharto ("One of our very best and most valuable friends"). And as my Guardian colleague Seumas Milne detailed last year, "across Britain Thatcher is still hated for the damage she inflicted – and for her political legacy of rampant inequality and greed, privatisation and social breakdown."'

Pedronicus wrote:Good News! Margaret Thatcher died today. Rot in hell you piece of shit.

Agent 86 wrote:Then we have the Kiwi leader Helen Clark, I'm sure some from New Zealand would like to tear her apart.

Lootifer wrote:

Agent 86 wrote:Then we have the Kiwi leader Helen Clark, I'm sure some from New Zealand would like to tear her apart.

Erm...

1) John Key has been our prime minister since 2009

2) [Blatent showing off tone] We tend to like our politicians because we try not to elect idiots; sure we give 'em plenty of crap but the worst offender was Muldoon in the 70's with "think big" - and that wasnt killing people but just building a couple of over priced dams and investing in some retarded industries (protip: not a good idea to import car parts from Japan, build them, in NZ then export them back to Japan). Even the rightwingers call her Aunty Helen, much like I dont really have a problem with JK (though he is a swarmy git).

ben79 wrote:Sad day for comic book lovers, Iron man wife just died !

Pedronicus wrote:

Mr Changsha wrote:

Pedronicus wrote:Good News! Margaret Thatcher died today. Rot in hell you piece of shit.

Disgraceful.

Disgraceful? What experience of her policies have either you or scotty had to endure?

She destroyed the British coal industry, putting thousands directly out of work, hundreds of thousands indirectly out of work. Entire communities ruined and then helped the trade deficit into the red by importing cheaper coal.
If you are living in a country like Japan with little to no natural resources, then sure, import what you need. But if you have coal in your country, then it's far better to pay your countrymen to dig it out of the ground, than to make them unemployed.

Sure, the opencast mined coal from Germany and Australia is a lot cheaper, but did we get cheaper energy? Did we f*ck.

She privatised the utilities based on the claim that the private sector runs things more efficiently. Which is total bollocks because now virtually every energy company is based overseas and a private sector company is there to make a profit.

Where did all of the money go that these private companies paid to take over running the utilities? I have no idea... None of it seemed to filter down to the average person in Britain.

She decided to sell off the social housing with massive discounts to the lucky few who could afford to buy their council houses. None of that money was reinvested in building more social housing.
The repercussions of that piece of legislation are still with us now. House prices rocketed beyond the reach of normal people. The shortfall of social housing was filled by buy to let landlords, charging rents to a council that cost more than before.

So what she did to this country was to make housing, water, electricity, and gas (basic living requirements) more expensive.

So if I come across as disgraceful, please excuse me, but this bitch fucked up this country for the majority, whilst making a select few very very rich.

When Diana died, people threw flowers on the bonnet of the hearse.

When her hearse drives down the road, expect a lot of dog shit, bottles and bricks to be thrown at the hearse.