Conquer Club

Wisse wrote:lol qeee is a little boy?

It's true.

Trying to recalculate scores without teams can be misleading.

For example, lets say we had someone who played several team games when starting out, and then switched to single games from then on, with those earlier team games only counting for about 10% of his total games. And then we try to calculate his score without team games.

The reality is that the scores would be almost the same, since if he never played those team games, then that would mean all of his singles wins would have been for more points, thereby canceling out the points earned from team games.

maniacmath17 wrote:Trying to recalculate scores without teams can be misleading.

Robinette wrote:Scores have been adjusted to reflect NO team games what-so-ever...
This is the current score without team games as of March 31st, 2007.
Of course, every win and every loss will slightly effect the score of all remaining games, so this is not 100% accurate. This simply removes the team scores as they were earned. But this should be extremely close, and as good as it can get without lack spliting the scoreboard.

Just in case you missed this MM

So how 'bout it?
Am I missing anybody?

I say the top 10-12 singles players play a series of games together...
All std singles games, of course.
This would be Super Fun... we could even call it the Super Fun tournament!

Anyway, before I get these games started.... are we missing anybody?

Are you missing anybody? Robinette, I'm hurt!

I've player 3 team games ever for a net loss of 33 points.

I believe that would make my current score without team games 2349. My highest score ever is in my signature..

Robinette wrote:So how 'bout it?
Am I missing anybody?

I say the top 10-12 singles players play a series of games together...
All std singles games, of course.
This would be Super Fun... we could even call it the Super Fun tournament!

Anyway, before I get these games started.... are we missing anybody?

I'm out, quitting CC for a while.

qeee1 wrote:I'm out, quitting CC for a while.

He ain't lying. Told me this about a month ago...

autoload wrote:

qeee1 wrote:I'm out, quitting CC for a while.

He ain't lying. Told me this about a month ago...

freakin game won't end!

hendy wrote:

Robinette wrote:I now present to you...
Top 10 Highest Scores (without team games)



....................... current score .............. current ........... highest ......
.......................... with NO...................... score............... score ........
........................ team games..............(as of 3/31/07)...........ever.........

1. Hendy. . . . . . 2669 . . . . . . . . . . . 2785 . . . . . . . . 3021
2. Nuke . . . . . . . . . 2598 . . . . . . . . . . . 2528 . . . . . . . . 3160
3. Cyberdaniel. . . . 2533 . . . . . . . . . . . 2654 . . . . . . . . 3145
4. qeee1. . . . . . . . . 2479. . . . . . . . . . . 2506. . . . . . . . . 2506?
5. maniacmath. . . . 2316. . . . . . . . . . . 2647. . . . . . . . . 3185
6. RL_Orange . . . . 2210. . . . . . . . . . . 2094. . . . . . . . . 3088
7.
8.
9.
10.


What is not displayed, is what the highest score each person above has achieved without team games....

The approximate high scores without actually doing the math,
would give us a list that would look like this:

1. Nuke ................. about 3200
2. Hendy ....... about 3150
3. cyberdaniel....... about 3100
4. Robinette ......... about 2950
5. maniacmath...... about 2900
6.
7.
8.
9.
? qeee1 ............... about 2500 (you really shouldn't be on this list yet, little boy)


Scores have been adjusted to reflect NO team games what-so-ever...
This is the current score without team games as of March 31st, 2007.
Of course, every win and every loss will slightly effect the score of the next game, so this is not 100% accurate. This simply removes the team scores as they were earned. But this should be extremely close, and as good as it can get without lack spliting the scoreboard.

(This original thread was tiltled "Top Singles Players" and was moved by an over-zealous mod to the Social Lounge... hee hee, see, you CAN judge a book by it's cover)

Sweet, I'm #1!

didn't you drop to private when you played alot of singles?

still waiting for my score

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:still waiting for my score

You have to do your own dirty work...

juventino wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:still waiting for my score

You have to do your own dirty work...

its not dirty work. its called making sure the chart is accurate.

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:

juventino wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:still waiting for my score

You have to do your own dirty work...

its not dirty work. its called making sure the chart is accurate.

Due to the enormity of the task of verifying johnnyrockets games, we have decided to contract this out to an outside accounting firm... all the local companies said it was too much for them, but there are 4 large firms preparing estimates for us now...

The 4 firms are:
* Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu
* Ernst & Young
* KPMG
* PricewaterhouseCoopers

Arthur Andersen had the answer within 3 minutes of contacting them, but we question the accuracy after they confirmed that they utilized thier Enron accounting team.

sully800 wrote:Are you missing anybody? Robinette, I'm hurt!

I've player 3 team games ever for a net loss of 33 points.

I believe that would make my current score without team games 2349. My highest score ever is in my signature..

how could i have missed you sully.... must be that's its been a long time since your last graph....

I'll get you on the list real soon... right now i gotta get the guys going on thier projects... mondays can be crazy sometimes.....

I would think that unless you have played less than 20 team games, the error margin on your singles score would be over 5% which is pretty brutal.

To actually get the numbers I would guess all you need is an sql statement on game type.

However, I don't know how the db is setup, if the records don't keep track of points accumulated (instead just one basic score stat that gets updated at end of each game), then your error margin blows up to over 50%

Simply because of the fact that you won a solo game against a player who has basically gotten most of his points playing doubles - your comparison base is flawed in that case...

PS: That is why I setup my stats to only reflect wins/loss ratio, because trying to keep a track of skill levels is inherently flawed...

Well. The topplayers on this list are alot like the top on the scoringboard. Just some changes. So sure. Double and tripple games do help alot but no-one at the top are not only team players. I think everyone knows how to play a good single game...

Robinette wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:

juventino wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:still waiting for my score

You have to do your own dirty work...

its not dirty work. its called making sure the chart is accurate.

Due to the enormity of the task of verifying johnnyrockets games, we have decided to contract this out to an outside accounting firm... all the local companies said it was too much for them, but there are 4 large firms preparing estimates for us now...

The 4 firms are:
* Deloitte Touche Tohmatsu
* Ernst & Young
* KPMG
* PricewaterhouseCoopers

Arthur Andersen had the answer within 3 minutes of contacting them, but we question the accuracy after they confirmed that they utilized thier Enron accounting team.

until the results are in, you must include an "*" indicating my score is being calculated. In the meantime, I will keep running up the completed games.

vic wrote:That is why I setup my stats to only reflect wins/loss ratio, because trying to keep a track of skill levels is inherently flawed...

win/loss ratios are not an accurate guage...
hopefully you can see the problem between a 6 player std game and the 4-5 player games you prefer with regards to the win/loss ratios.

But I DO like the stats you've put together... nicely done!

how did u do that?

please take me off that singles list Robin, I am not in the top 10, over the last 4 days off and on, about 24 in half, well, almost 25 hours it took me to calculate my singles rank, and I was only able to account for just about only a 2000 rank, slightly below, 1982.

Now, for JR, or Johnnyrocket24? wow, I mean, sorry bro, but to count or add and subtract your points could take a solid 2 weeks, perhaps a month to calculate, screw that, lol

Blitzaholic wrote:please take me off that singles list Robin, I am not in the top 10, over the last 4 days off and on, about 24 in half, well, almost 25 hours it took me to calculate my singles rank, and I was only able to account for just about only a 2000 rank, slightly below, 1982.

Now, for JR, or Johnnyrocket24? wow, I mean, sorry bro, but to count or add and subtract your points could take a solid 2 weeks, perhaps a month to calculate, screw that, lol

how about a honorable mention? I dint even make your leet list and my score hasnt been under 2,000 points for like the past 8 months.

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:how about a honorable mention? I dint even make your leet list and my score hasnt been under 2,000 points for like the past 8 months. Sad
_________________
Highest Score- 3252
Highest Place- 3rd

completed games- 2,358 CC Record
triples victories- 589 CC Record
doubles victories- 504 CC Record*
singles victories- 403 CC Record*

*waiting for players to count and say they have more

Aren't you being too modest. Owing to the tremendous number of games you've played aren't you also entitled to some other CC records?

most losses - CC Record*
most triples losses - CC Record*
most doubles losses - CC Record*
most singles losses - CC Record*

*sort of waiting for players to count and say they have more, but not holding my breath

Just askin'...

JR, for what its worth, I always put you in the top players category

The sheer volume you play, the extreme variety, and your ability to win them make you a force...

Anyone who plays in here knows that...and those that play tons of different types at once understand it even better...

Im not going to nominate you for the most political player, but you do know how to play

tahitiwahini wrote:

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:how about a honorable mention? I dint even make your leet list and my score hasnt been under 2,000 points for like the past 8 months. Sad
_________________
Highest Score- 3252
Highest Place- 3rd

completed games- 2,358 CC Record
triples victories- 589 CC Record
doubles victories- 504 CC Record*
singles victories- 403 CC Record*

*waiting for players to count and say they have more

Aren't you being too modest. Owing to the tremendous number of games you've played aren't you also entitled to some other CC records?

most losses - CC Record*
most triples losses - CC Record*
most doubles losses - CC Record*
most singles losses - CC Record*

*sort of waiting for players to count and say they have more, but not holding my breath

Just askin'...

my signature isnt long enough to carry all the records...just the more important ones

Robinette wrote:

maniacmath17 wrote:Trying to recalculate scores without teams can be misleading.

Robinette wrote:Scores have been adjusted to reflect NO team games what-so-ever...
This is the current score without team games as of March 31st, 2007.
Of course, every win and every loss will slightly effect the score of all remaining games, so this is not 100% accurate. This simply removes the team scores as they were earned. But this should be extremely close, and as good as it can get without lack spliting the scoreboard.

Just in case you missed this MM

Right, but for some it would have a huge impact, possibly even to the point where the scores would be the same with team games removed.

The only accurate way would be to recalculate with each team game played earlier on having less impact since that is the actual case. But that would be way too difficult.