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Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (9/16) Sign u
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:01 pm
by merch313
chemefreak wrote:Lubawski wrote:Cheme, I know it would be more work, but I liked the suggestion that everyone plays a certain amount of rounds. I think single elimination is still ideal for the winner because, as you said, it shows clan depth. However, I think it would suck to lose in the first or second round and then have either 12 or 8 of the people who were geared up for this thing not be able to participate.
i.e. Winners bracket continues up to championship. From the 8 who won the first round, the four to lose in the second round play each other. The two losers of that face off for 7th/8th place. The two winners face off for 5th/6th place. They have had 16 people contribute. Those in the semis who win face each other for 1st/2nd. Those in the semis who lose face each other for 3rd/4th place. They each have had 16 players contribute.
When a clan loses, they then play for their place. ie. the first 8 teams to lose are squared off. The four losers of those then face each other (followed by the two second time losers and two winners). You now have your 13-16th place teams) and each of those teams has had 16 players contribute during the tournament. Of the four teams who lost their first round, but won their second match-up, the two who lose play for 11th/12th place, and the two who won play for 9/10th. Those have also had 16 players contribute.
I'm sure this is a lot more work on your end hosting this, but at least it gives a true showing of all 16 teams depth allowing all teams to have 16 different players contribute.
Sure. You and Bones both suggested this so we can do it. Oh, and btw, "a lot more work" is an understatement! Now let's get this thing filled.
Cheme if you need any help if you make this thing bigger next time hit me up.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (9/16) Sign u
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:06 pm
by Lindax
chemefreak wrote:Lubawski wrote:Cheme, I know it would be more work, but I liked the suggestion that everyone plays a certain amount of rounds. I think single elimination is still ideal for the winner because, as you said, it shows clan depth. However, I think it would suck to lose in the first or second round and then have either 12 or 8 of the people who were geared up for this thing not be able to participate.
i.e. Winners bracket continues up to championship. From the 8 who won the first round, the four to lose in the second round play each other. The two losers of that face off for 7th/8th place. The two winners face off for 5th/6th place. They have had 16 people contribute. Those in the semis who win face each other for 1st/2nd. Those in the semis who lose face each other for 3rd/4th place. They each have had 16 players contribute.
When a clan loses, they then play for their place. ie. the first 8 teams to lose are squared off. The four losers of those then face each other (followed by the two second time losers and two winners). You now have your 13-16th place teams) and each of those teams has had 16 players contribute during the tournament. Of the four teams who lost their first round, but won their second match-up, the two who lose play for 11th/12th place, and the two who won play for 9/10th. Those have also had 16 players contribute.
I'm sure this is a lot more work on your end hosting this, but at least it gives a true showing of all 16 teams depth allowing all teams to have 16 different players contribute.
Sure. You and Bones both suggested this so we can do it. Oh, and btw, "a lot more work" is an understatement! Now let's get this thing filled.
Mmmm.... Now you'll have to remove "suicide" from the title. Also, implementing this, takes away from the originality of your idea.... Yes, you guessed right, I don't like it. It was so nice and simple....
Lx
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (10/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:09 pm
by Emmdizzle
AFoS is in...contact [player]Emmdizzle[/player]
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (9/16) Sign u
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:15 pm
by chemefreak
Lindax wrote:
Mmmm.... Now you'll have to remove "suicide" from the title. Also, implementing this, takes away from the originality of your idea.... Yes, you guessed right, I don't like it. It was so nice and simple....
Lx
No, it is still a suicide tournament. Even though all clans will play in 4 rounds, they will not be able to use a player more than once. The main bracket (the primary concept) will remain unaffected (this is not a double elimination tournament). I just originally didn't think anyone would want to play for 15th place....apparently I was wrong
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (11/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:25 pm
by Bones2484
Glad to hear it's been expanded
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (9/16) Sign u
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:31 pm
by Lubawski
chemefreak wrote:Sure. You and Bones both suggested this so we can do it. Oh, and btw, "a lot more work" is an understatement! Now let's get this thing filled.
I think that should be the litmus test from here on out. If Bones and I agree, something must be a good idea.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (9/16) Sign u
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:33 pm
by chemefreak
Lubawski wrote:chemefreak wrote:Sure. You and Bones both suggested this so we can do it. Oh, and btw, "a lot more work" is an understatement! Now let's get this thing filled.
I think that should be the litmus test from here on out. If Bones and I agree, something must be a good idea.
God help us all!
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (11/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:15 pm
by General Brock II
I like it. Count the Regiment in. Now, do I understand correctly that I select what four players we can use per round? Do you need the list beforehand, or just as the tourney progresses?
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (11/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:18 pm
by chemefreak
General Brock II wrote:I like it. Count the Regiment in. Now, do I understand correctly that I select what four players we can use per round? Do you need the list beforehand, or just as the tourney progresses?
As the tourney progresses. I will request your 4 when I need them. Thanks.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (12/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:53 pm
by billclinton13
Count the Risk Attackers in please
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (12/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 6:42 pm
by shocked439
Myth would like in please
Primary Contact will be woopintroysbutt
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (12/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:06 pm
by 4 U 2 NV
are you sending all 9 games out at once?
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (12/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:13 pm
by chemefreak
4 U 2 NV wrote:are you sending all 9 games out at once?
Yes. All 11 games will be played at the same time. I know it is not very freemium friendly. But clans are predominantly premium anyway.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (12/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:19 pm
by 4 U 2 NV
chemefreak wrote:4 U 2 NV wrote:are you sending all 9 games out at once?
Yes. All 11 games will be played at the same time. I know it is not very freemium friendly. But clans are predominantly premium anyway.
understood. just trying to figure out game loads here.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (14/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:21 pm
by Gold Knight
Count AOD in, make jpcloet the primary contact for now because im too lazy.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (9/16) Sign u
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 7:33 pm
by Lindax
chemefreak wrote:Lindax wrote:
Mmmm.... Now you'll have to remove "suicide" from the title. Also, implementing this, takes away from the originality of your idea.... Yes, you guessed right, I don't like it. It was so nice and simple....
Lx
No, it is still a suicide tournament. Even though all clans will play in 4 rounds, they will not be able to use a player more than once. The main bracket (the primary concept) will remain unaffected (this is not a double elimination tournament). I just originally didn't think anyone would want to play for 15th place....apparently I was wrong
I don't wanna play for 15th place. If you want a complete ranking you need to play a round robin IMHO.
Lubawski wrote: I think that should be the litmus test from here on out. If Bones and I agree, something must be a good idea.
Lx
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (15/16) Sign
Posted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 10:51 pm
by chemefreak
Which clan wants the last spot?
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (15/16) Sign
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:24 am
by jetsetwilly
AOC are in.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (15/16) Sign
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 7:49 am
by Leehar
Nemesis are in.
I'm sure they're can still be a need for reserves tho
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (Full) Sign u
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 11:32 am
by chemefreak
Okay. AoC is in. Nemesis is #17 so they are not at this point. However, I have pm'd a few clans to make sure they are prepared for this commitment. Once they are/are not confirmed we can get this thing going.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (Full)
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 12:57 pm
by Leehar
Lol, we got pushed behind the agents edit
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (Full)
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:51 pm
by chemefreak
Leehar wrote:Lol, we got pushed behind the agents edit
Sorry Nemesis! A pm has been sent to all clan contacts. First set of players due to me by Thursday at noon EST.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (Full) - Setup
Posted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:44 pm
by peanutsdad
On behalf of Mythology, good luck to all the clans in this one, Chem, thanks for putting this on, should be lots of fun, a true test of depth in a clan, i like it.
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (9/16) Sign u
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 4:27 am
by Frederik Hendrik
Lindax wrote:chemefreak wrote:Lindax wrote:
Mmmm.... Now you'll have to remove "suicide" from the title. Also, implementing this, takes away from the originality of your idea.... Yes, you guessed right, I don't like it. It was so nice and simple....
Lx
No, it is still a suicide tournament. Even though all clans will play in 4 rounds, they will not be able to use a player more than once. The main bracket (the primary concept) will remain unaffected (this is not a double elimination tournament). I just originally didn't think anyone would want to play for 15th place....apparently I was wrong
I don't wanna play for 15th place. If you want a complete ranking you need to play a round robin IMHO.
Lubawski wrote: I think that should be the litmus test from here on out. If Bones and I agree, something must be a good idea.
Lx
I agree with Lindax. We don't want to play for 15th place either. I liked the original concept better. Why play if you can't win anymore? It feels like playing those last games to finish an already decided clanwar. No fun IMO.
FH
Re: Clan Directors' Random Suicide Tournament (Full) - Setup
Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 11:59 am
by Bones2484
if you don't want to play, then tell Cheme you want to forfeit future matches once you lose. No one is forcing you to keep going. And those of us who find enjoyment in actually playing games in a competition even when it doesn't mean a shiny medal can keep playing.