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Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:24 pm
by Hannibał
Gayest city, in ohio? LIES. We do not hold Every city in california, austin texas, orlando florida or the state of new jersey here in ohio..
As for gay marriage, I couldn't care less. If they want to make their lives miserable so be it, who really cares. A lot of the anti marriage extreme right wing christian freaks are FAR from "Ideal" christians..
I DO disagree strongly with gay couples adopting children though..if having them is icky to you, then you shouldn't be able to shop for one like its a coach manpurse. Think of being in school and things kids were bullied for, brands of cloths and such. Now imagine your dad came to school flamed out hand and hand with his wife Gary..
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:26 pm
by Woodruff
Hannibał wrote:I DO disagree strongly with gay couples adopting children though..if having them is icky to you, then you shouldn't be able to shop for one like its a coach manpurse.
You actually believe that homosexual couples don't have children of their own because they think it's "icky" and that's why they want to adopt? Wow.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 7:30 pm
by anonymus
NONE! (other than two people in love getting married)
grow the f*ck up
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Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:23 pm
by PLAYER57832
Hannibał wrote:
I DO disagree strongly with gay couples adopting children though..if having them is icky to you, then you shouldn't be able to shop for one like its a coach manpurse. Think of being in school and things kids were bullied for, brands of cloths and such. Now imagine your dad came to school flamed out hand and hand with his wife Gary..
Seems like you don't know any gay families. I do. I also know plenty of foster kids. The kids in the gay families do MUCH better.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:24 pm
by Phatscotty
If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 8:32 pm
by PLAYER57832
Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
So, too, if every couple is infertile. I suppose you want those outlawed as well?
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:04 pm
by Hannibał
First, Woody get off my balls. Stop tagging behind me spitting out some useless remark to every single thread I comment in, if you seriously believe a grown man is going to say "icky" and mean it your a idiot. f*ck off sir.
PLAYER57832 wrote:Hannibał wrote:
I DO disagree strongly with gay couples adopting children though..if having them is icky to you, then you shouldn't be able to shop for one like its a coach manpurse. Think of being in school and things kids were bullied for, brands of cloths and such. Now imagine your dad came to school flamed out hand and hand with his wife Gary..
Seems like you don't know any gay families. I do. I also know plenty of foster kids. The kids in the gay families do MUCH better.
You are correct, I don't know any gay familys. I do however know some gay people, and went to school with more then a few and I know those kids got beat up on a consistant basis..however ignorant it was, and however blissfully ignorant to the awkward family life these kids raised in that scenerio they WILL have a horrible time in your average school/early life. Most of those bullied ended up being druggies or having other issues..
Maybe it beats being in a foster home, but if normal couples that would make great parants are forced to go overseas just because they don't meet some obscene requirments, that perhaps a kids mental well being growing up in a "weird" family should be considered also..but that'd be ridiculous, because then your violating someones rights
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:06 pm
by Metsfanmax
Hannibał wrote:You are correct, I don't know any gay familys. I do however know some gay people, and went to school with more then a few and I know those kids got beat up on a consistant basis..however ignorant it was, and however blissfully ignorant to the awkward family life these kids raised in that scenerio they WILL have a horrible time in your average school/early life. Most of those bullied ended up being druggies or having other issues..
You're basically endorsing that intolerance by saying there should be fewer kids raised by gay parents for this reason. Instead what we need is to wholeheartedly endorse and recognize gay parents as not being deficient in child-rearing abilities, coupled with an aggressive plan to instruct kids in tolerance.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:13 pm
by Phatscotty
Hannibał wrote:First, Woody get off my balls. Stop tagging behind me spitting out some useless remark to every single thread I comment in, if you seriously believe a grown man is going to say "icky" and mean it your a idiot. f*ck off sir.
Not gonna happen. I ignored him and foed him for weeks, never responding. Yet, there he was, calling me names and insulting me and harassing me and basically stalking me.
He's a jerk
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:14 pm
by Phatscotty
PLAYER57832 wrote:Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
So, too, if every couple is infertile. I suppose you want those outlawed as well?
Outlawed? WTF are you talking about?
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 9:53 pm
by Hannibał
Metsfanmax wrote:Hannibał wrote:You are correct, I don't know any gay familys. I do however know some gay people, and went to school with more then a few and I know those kids got beat up on a consistant basis..however ignorant it was, and however blissfully ignorant to the awkward family life these kids raised in that scenerio they WILL have a horrible time in your average school/early life. Most of those bullied ended up being druggies or having other issues..
You're basically endorsing that intolerance by saying there should be fewer kids raised by gay parents for this reason. Instead what we need is to wholeheartedly endorse and recognize gay parents as not being deficient in child-rearing abilities, coupled with an aggressive plan to instruct kids in tolerance.
You right, ignoring a problem dosent fix it. But I think maybe its too much change too fast. I think the young kids now, when they get older it will be easier to accept.. I know by the time I was exiting highschool in 04' there was a trend of gay being almost trendy, with every girl making out with each other after 1 beer, and every gay guy being all the rage with the same loose girls.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:24 pm
by Army of GOD
Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:28 pm
by rdsrds2120
Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
If everyone was gay and didn't get married, the population would be 0. I don't get what you're trying to say here.
-rd
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:31 pm
by Army of GOD
If everyone sucked my dick and bought me ice cream, I'd have a lot of fucking ice cream.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:34 pm
by Hannibał
Just a basic fact, if EVERYONE were gay we couldn't keep the population up. Assuming you don't take in the equation of women hitting the certain age where they obsess over babys and talk their gay friend chuck to fill a turkey baster. Or the greedy "bi-sexuals" that will sex up anything. But it would definitly slow us down
End world hunger, become gay
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:36 pm
by Woodruff
Hannibał wrote:First, Woody get off my balls. Stop tagging behind me spitting out some useless remark to every single thread I comment in, if you seriously believe a grown man is going to say "icky" and mean it your a idiot. f*ck off sir.
Perhaps if you'd stop making moronic statements, this request of yours would take care of itself.
Phatscotty wrote:Hannibał wrote:First, Woody get off my balls. Stop tagging behind me spitting out some useless remark to every single thread I comment in, if you seriously believe a grown man is going to say "icky" and mean it your a idiot. f*ck off sir.
Not gonna happen. I ignored him and foed him for weeks, never responding. Yet, there he was, calling me names and insulting me and harassing me and basically stalking me.
He's a jerk
Of course, that's the problem. It couldn't possibly be anything else!
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 12, 2011 10:41 pm
by rdsrds2120
Me again! Going to stop the (Member) v (Member) stuff before it starts. Stay focused, don't respond to baiting, eat your vegetables
That's all!
-rd
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:20 am
by Symmetry
Woodruff wrote:There quite literally is NO difference in arguments between homosexuality and polygamy. Both SHOULD be legal in a free world, because both have the ability to consent involved.
What would be the difference between heterosexuality and polygamy?
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:51 am
by Iliad
Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
But clearly if everyone was gay but unable to marry due to the Christian Lobby, the world would be saved. Thank god for the traditional marriage, otherwise everyone will instantly turn gay and marry the first same sex person they'll see. You're a real piece of work Scotty.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 3:03 am
by Symmetry
I'm really not sure that any of the stuff about polygamy or bestiality has actually happened in places where gay people have married.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 6:57 am
by PLAYER57832
Phatscotty wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:Phatscotty wrote:If everyone were gay and married, the world population would be 0 in no time flat
So, too, if every couple is infertile. I suppose you want those outlawed as well?
Outlawed? WTF are you talking about?
Well, you don't want homosexuals to marry because they cannot have kids, so you must not want infertile couples to marry, either.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:04 am
by daddy1gringo
Woodruff wrote:daddy1gringo wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Symmetry wrote:If you've had a kind of legalisation- have the fears come true? Are you now close to legalising animal abuse and incest? Have marriages been weakened?
What fears specifically? The people that are against gay marriage are against gay marriage because they think it's immoral. I'm not sure they expected some sort of tangible negative result.
also... while homosexuality has nothing to do with polygamy in that they are not the same, the arguments against polygamy are quite similar to the arguments against homosexuality...
Tgd has a point here. It's not that anybody is saying that those other things will inevitably follow. The point is that if you're going to say that marriage is whatever you want it to be, you've got to come up with a better argument because that includes these things and more.
"Consent" doesn't apply to beastiality nor in most cases to incest.
Well right, if you include the term "consenting adults", that eliminates some or most of them, but my point is that I think the premise of the opening question is wrong in that it's not that anybody is saying that legalizing gay marriage will result in these things, they are just brought up to point out a flaw in the idea that marriage is whatever one wants to define it as. (Couldn't find a reasonable way to avoid ending with a preposition there.)
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:38 am
by PLAYER57832
daddy1gringo wrote:Woodruff wrote:daddy1gringo wrote:thegreekdog wrote:Symmetry wrote:If you've had a kind of legalisation- have the fears come true? Are you now close to legalising animal abuse and incest? Have marriages been weakened?
What fears specifically? The people that are against gay marriage are against gay marriage because they think it's immoral. I'm not sure they expected some sort of tangible negative result.
also... while homosexuality has nothing to do with polygamy in that they are not the same, the arguments against polygamy are quite similar to the arguments against homosexuality...
Tgd has a point here. It's not that anybody is saying that those other things will inevitably follow. The point is that if you're going to say that marriage is whatever you want it to be, you've got to come up with a better argument because that includes these things and more.
"Consent" doesn't apply to beastiality nor in most cases to incest.
Well right, if you include the term "consenting adults", that eliminates some or most of them, but my point is that I think the premise of the opening question is wrong in that it's not that anybody is saying that legalizing gay marriage will result in these things, they are just brought up to point out a flaw in the idea that marriage is whatever one wants to define it as. (Couldn't find a reasonable way to avoid ending with a preposition there.)
No, a lot of people very much claim homosexuality or legalizing homosexual marriages causes those other things.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 8:41 am
by daddy1gringo
PLAYER57832 wrote:No, a lot of people very much claim homosexuality or legalizing homosexual marriages causes those other things.
I don't.
Re: Consequences of Gay Marriage Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:02 am
by PLAYER57832
daddy1gringo wrote:PLAYER57832 wrote:No, a lot of people very much claim homosexuality or legalizing homosexual marriages causes those other things.
I don't.
No, but it is a common argument voiced in opposing homosexual marriages and unions, even today.