Misleading Thread Titles

[pimpdave]

I have a question: why does everyone take this stuff so seriously?

Have you ever been banned?

Follow up question, if you don't take it seriously, why do you yourself petition to get people banned?

[Metsfanmax]

I have a question: why does everyone take this stuff so seriously?

Have you ever been banned?

No, but I don't do stupid stuff.

Follow up question, if you don't take it seriously, why do you yourself petition to get people banned?

I don't petition to get people banned. I just make offhand comments in threads about how people should be banned. If I seriously wanted you to be banned I wouldn't have made one thread about it and then quit complaining.

[pimpdave]

Well anyway, I don't think anyone can have a meaningful conversation about consistency without at least acknowledging the tone set by Night Strike and no meaningful reform will ever happen until the damage he did is undone and ideally atoned for.

[jonesthecurl]

You know what I like about living in the U.S. at this time of year?
Chocolate Matzos. You can only get them near Passover. I love 'em. It almost makes up for the lack of decent Hot Cross Buns.

[Army of GOD]

I understand that. It was pretty harmless in itself, but if we let that go through, what else should we let through? It's that matter of consistency that everyone seemed to be upset about a while back. Then we do try to be more consistent, and it that doesn't seem to work either. We're trying to find a way and method that will responsibly suit the most people. It's harder than it looks, lol.

-rd

You should stop things that are detrimental to the community from going through. I realize the line can be hard to draw sometimes, but that post(as you admit) was CLEARLY not over the line.
Warning a user for a post that is harmless isn't a good move, and it's about on par with saying "well, if we legalize gay marriage, what next? bestiality, necrophilia, we'll have to legalize them all" ...

A similar situation occurred a while back, when AoG was warned(or banned?) for spamming live chat while there was only another user in there who appeared to be inactive.
Again, how is spamming live chat when there's basically no one there detrimental to the community? That warning makes absolutely no sense, just like this one doesn't.

How about this for a system: You only act immediately for gross violations, things that are clearly over the line, like posting someone's private info, clearly bigoted comments, post that are entirely a personal attack, without touching upon any issues, links to porn, etc that sort of thing.
For the rest, wait. If a sufficient number of people complain(and it seems unlikely that they're complaining simply because they don't like the guy), then maybe do something.

[notyou2]

Thought police are watching.

[jonesthecurl]

SO I've been watching the previews of the Game of Thrones series.
It looks as if it is going to be seriously stunning, truly so.
TV taking a fantasy series seriously...
really.

[thegreekdog]

SO I've been watching the previews of the Game of Thrones series.
It looks as if it is going to be seriously stunning, truly so.
TV taking a fantasy series seriously...
really.

I'm extremely worried about this series, specifically whether it will be good or not.

[Serbia]

THIS THREAD IS NOW ABOUT BEING BANNED
The title is SO misleading.

[Night Strike]

Facts continue to elude you, both in the real world and in the CC world.

Basically every problem with consistency in moderation is because of stuff Night Strike did, but none of the administration on this site has been willing to admit or acknowledge that.

Whenever mods tell you that their job is difficult and we don't understand and they aren't appreciated (all of which is probably true), we should just remind them where all the problems began: with the incompetent, petulant, vindictive actions of Night Strike, who even, on several occasions, banned people for having political opinions contrary to his own. When he couldn't get away with that, he'd target those people and look for things to ban them for. The only consistency during his tenure was that anyone he deemed liberal was targeted for expulsion and anyone who fell in line with his brand of violent, jingoistic, neo-conservatism was never wrong.

Never happened. You have no proof of it happening, yet you continue to make baseless accusations.

And of course, amazingly, Night Strike has been shown mercy numerous times when he never showed any to us. Recently (within the last few months) he posted virulently racist comments, but it was edited out by someone higher up than him, and all of our pleas for consistency towards him (let him be subject to the same shit he's put us through) were ignored.

My comments weren't racist, which the mods and Andy agreed on after much debate. Andy requested me to edit them to remove the generalizations that some claimed made the comment appear racist, but he didn't do it himself. In fact, if you would actually take the time to look at the post in question, it clearly states that I made the edit.

Most sinisterly, Night Strike's gross abuses as a mod can never be overturned. They dog everyone he banned for the rest of the time they're on CC. And he did what he did for the most pathetic reason: to "win" political food fights.

Anyone I banned during my tenure as a global mod was banned because they broke the rules. The only reason they'd still be "dogged" is because they couldn't learn the rules after a short ban.

[jonesthecurl]

Facts continue to elude you, both in the real world and in the CC world.

Basically every problem with consistency in moderation is because of stuff Night Strike did, but none of the administration on this site has been willing to admit or acknowledge that.

Whenever mods tell you that their job is difficult and we don't understand and they aren't appreciated (all of which is probably true), we should just remind them where all the problems began: with the incompetent, petulant, vindictive actions of Night Strike, who even, on several occasions, banned people for having political opinions contrary to his own. When he couldn't get away with that, he'd target those people and look for things to ban them for. The only consistency during his tenure was that anyone he deemed liberal was targeted for expulsion and anyone who fell in line with his brand of violent, jingoistic, neo-conservatism was never wrong.

Never happened. You have no proof of it happening, yet you continue to make baseless accusations.

And of course, amazingly, Night Strike has been shown mercy numerous times when he never showed any to us. Recently (within the last few months) he posted virulently racist comments, but it was edited out by someone higher up than him, and all of our pleas for consistency towards him (let him be subject to the same shit he's put us through) were ignored.

My comments weren't racist, which the mods and Andy agreed on after much debate. Andy requested me to edit them to remove the generalizations that some claimed made the comment appear racist, but he didn't do it himself. In fact, if you would actually take the time to look at the post in question, it clearly states that I made the edit.

Most sinisterly, Night Strike's gross abuses as a mod can never be overturned. They dog everyone he banned for the rest of the time they're on CC. And he did what he did for the most pathetic reason: to "win" political food fights.

Anyone I banned during my tenure as a global mod was banned because they broke the rules. The only reason they'd still be "dogged" is because they couldn't learn the rules after a short ban.

Get out of this thread or I'll report you for spamming.

[jonesthecurl]

SO I've been watching the previews of the Game of Thrones series.
It looks as if it is going to be seriously stunning, truly so.
TV taking a fantasy series seriously...
really.

I'm extremely worried about this series, specifically whether it will be good or not.

Me too, especially having seen Riverworld and about ten minutes of Earthsea. But George R R Martin is so intimately involved in this that I suspect it explains why the next volume still hasn't fucking arrived, and from the preview stuff I've seen, everyone involved seems to get it, they've done some perfect casting, and as far as sets and costume go it seems to have been "spend as much as you like - make it convincing".
I am truly in awe of what I've seen.
Can you guess immediately who Sean Bean plays? I did. I knew he'd be Boromir the moment I heard he'd been cast in Lord of the Rings, and I was right this time too.

[pimpdave]

Wait, so Game of Thrones is based on something? I have until April 17 when it premieres. What do I need to read?

And I'm really looking forward to it too, although I haven't watched any of the preview stuff so I really have no idea what it's about, I just always give HBO series a chance.



EDIT: Oh, never mind, looked it up.

[jonesthecurl]

You really haven't read George R R Matin's Fire and Ice series?
Read it quick. Or you'll be forced to envision it with HBO's visuals.
It's one of the best fantasy series ever. In my eyes, Martin's up there with E R Eddison, James Branch Cabell, Philip Farmer,Zelazny, Ursula Le Guin, Dave Duncan, Tolkien, E R B, Lloyd Alexander, um, I'll think of some more. But the very front rank.

Go. Read 'em.

[pimpdave]

Ursula Le Guin I'm familiar with. My sister likes her a lot. I have a couple of her books that she gave me. I'll get to them eventually. I got most of the way through the first book of a Gene Wolfe trilogy my brother-in-law gave me. I put it down about five years ago and keep intending to pick it back up.

Other than that, the only real "fantasy" I've ever read is LOTR and The Hobbit. I don't recognize any of the other names you mentioned.

I'm logging into Amazon now to order it.

[notyou2]

Roger Zelasny is very good.

[jonesthecurl]

I highly recommend James Branch Cabell - it's clever, funny stuff. Not funny in a slapstick way, witty. It's from way back.
The most famous one is Jurgen, which was the subject of an obscenity trial back in the 1920's. And contains a scene where the hero is tried for obscenity on largely the same grounds.

[shieldgenerator7]

random post, or not so random? could you have come up with something more original than "this is not about misleading thread titles?"

[jonesthecurl]

Um, wait a minute. Let me think. No.

[rdsrds2120]

random post, or not so random? could you have come up with something more original than "this is not about misleading thread titles?"

Why, were you misled?

-rd

[Queen_Herpes]

I hope I don't get warned like that, you know, Army guy. Heaven forbid. Well, heaven must not have forbidden it, I guess, if the army was warned.

[Army of GOD]

I hope I don't get warned like that, you know, Army guy. Heaven forbid. Well, heaven must not have forbidden it, I guess, if the army was warned.

Can I have your babies?

[notyou2]

I hope I don't get warned like that, you know, Army guy. Heaven forbid. Well, heaven must not have forbidden it, I guess, if the army was warned.

Can I have your babies?

Her babies are snakes.