Conquer Club

Juan_Bottom wrote:Conservatives, on the other hand, are better at getting angry about everything and then invade Iraq.

I seem to remember, a significant minority in the right, bring opposed to Iraq. Conservatism and Iraq don't mix. See: Neo-con

got tonkaed wrote:In some ways, I think that paragraph is pretty brilliant evidence for the idea that maybe something is different on a physiological level. Because although I comprehend that you feel like accepting the world as it is, should be viewed as a desirable outcome and embraced, comprehension would not in this case equal understanding.

Well, I'm not inviting you to any parties

What a dry, bland remark

What a surprise! Just another article to add to my ever-growing list of studies which supposedly prove that Conservatives are smarter than Liberals or vice versa, depending on who wrote it and what their bias happened to be...

LAME!

I do not believe there is any significant difference in intelligence levels between right and left, but have always pinned it more on what matters more to them.

to Conservatives, it's usually all about the cost, or the results, or the efficiency, regardless of how people feel or if benefits will be reduced.

to Liberals, its more about the intentions, the feelings, or the amount of people covered in xyz, regardless of the cots or the consequences.

Classic conversation: "But, it's going to cost 80 billion dollars. Where is the money going to come from"...."But, people are dying everyday and something has to be done."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vw2CrY9Igs

"Hey what are you good at?"

"Oh, you know. I'm good at sports, history and emotions..."

Army of GOD wrote:"Hey what are you good at?"

"Oh, you know. I'm good at sports, history and emotions..."

you'd think the rational liberal types would address actual political issues in a logical manner, instead of trotting out "studies" that show how they are so much more rational...

i know several "liberals" that obviously do not approach issues in a manner as logical as mine, or that of any number of conservatives for that matter. so why are ALL liberals not more logical than ALL conservatives? because the labels and the study itself are next to worthless. they don't measure all the aspects of why people hold the views that they do, and they definitely don't measure which views are correct.

have fun mentally jerking off to how smart a study says you are. i'm going to go read some other study that boosts my own ego and reaffirms my own views. isn't modern psychology great?

Juan_Bottom wrote:This is awesome. Liberals are better at understanding logic and using reasoning, ESPECIALLY when they have to take into account new information that challenges their previous assertions. We're able to learn and grow.
Conservatives, on the other hand, are better at getting angry about everything and then invade Iraq.


I mean, it sounds like I'm trolling but this is what I get out of this. They have more anger and we have more logic.

This is a British study, so it doesn't necessarily apply to you (as someone from the US).

There were 90 young adults... key words being "ninety" and "young."

So, that brings me to this theory - If young adult liberals in England are "able to learn and grow" do young adult liberals in England learn and grow into conservatives? As MeDeFe noted in the OP, "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

thegreekdog wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:This is awesome. Liberals are better at understanding logic and using reasoning, ESPECIALLY when they have to take into account new information that challenges their previous assertions. We're able to learn and grow.
Conservatives, on the other hand, are better at getting angry about everything and then invade Iraq.


I mean, it sounds like I'm trolling but this is what I get out of this. They have more anger and we have more logic.

This is a British study, so it doesn't necessarily apply to you (as someone from the US).

There were 90 young adults... key words being "ninety" and "young."

So, that brings me to this theory - If young adult liberals in England are "able to learn and grow" do young adult liberals in England learn and grow into conservatives? As MeDeFe noted in the OP, "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

Actually that's by Winston Churchill (supposedly) and I said the study could call that quote into question because Winnie implied that liberals acted from emotion and conservatives acted from rationality, when the study finds indications that it might be just the other way around.

MeDeFe wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:This is awesome. Liberals are better at understanding logic and using reasoning, ESPECIALLY when they have to take into account new information that challenges their previous assertions. We're able to learn and grow.
Conservatives, on the other hand, are better at getting angry about everything and then invade Iraq.


I mean, it sounds like I'm trolling but this is what I get out of this. They have more anger and we have more logic.

This is a British study, so it doesn't necessarily apply to you (as someone from the US).

There were 90 young adults... key words being "ninety" and "young."

So, that brings me to this theory - If young adult liberals in England are "able to learn and grow" do young adult liberals in England learn and grow into conservatives? As MeDeFe noted in the OP, "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

Actually that's by Winston Churchill (supposedly) and I said the study could call that quote into question because Winnie implied that liberals acted from emotion and conservatives acted from rationality, when the study finds indications that it might be just the other way around.

I always took that Churchill quote (I used to think it was an American politician... shocking I know) to mean that as one got older, one became a conservative (and by older, I mean getting a job, paying bills, paying taxes, etc.). I never understood it to mean that one side acted from emotion and one side acted from rationality.

I took it as at statement on idealism and pragmatism(or cynicism to a lesser degree).

I'm sick of seeing the quote abused by conservatives, as if it validates every single argument they wish to make.

A politician at one time, said something. Big deal.

Aradhus wrote:I took it as at statement on idealism and pragmatism(or cynicism to a lesser degree).

Yes, that's what I mean. You said it better than I could.

An even more important question for scientific research would be whether or not liberals generally masturbate with their left hand, conservatives with the right, centrists with both, and anarchists with each other's.

BigBallinStalin wrote:An even more important question for scientific research would be whether or not liberals generally masturbate with their left hand, conservatives with the right, centrists with both, and anarchists with each other's.

I do know that Conservatives view more porn than liberals. Which is shocking since it's the liberals who make it.

thegreekdog wrote:

MeDeFe wrote:

thegreekdog wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:This is awesome. Liberals are better at understanding logic and using reasoning, ESPECIALLY when they have to take into account new information that challenges their previous assertions. We're able to learn and grow.
Conservatives, on the other hand, are better at getting angry about everything and then invade Iraq.


I mean, it sounds like I'm trolling but this is what I get out of this. They have more anger and we have more logic.

This is a British study, so it doesn't necessarily apply to you (as someone from the US).

There were 90 young adults... key words being "ninety" and "young."

So, that brings me to this theory - If young adult liberals in England are "able to learn and grow" do young adult liberals in England learn and grow into conservatives? As MeDeFe noted in the OP, "If you're not a liberal at twenty you have no heart, if you're not a conservative at forty you have no brain."

Actually that's by Winston Churchill (supposedly) and I said the study could call that quote into question because Winnie implied that liberals acted from emotion and conservatives acted from rationality, when the study finds indications that it might be just the other way around.

I always took that Churchill quote (I used to think it was an American politician... shocking I know) to mean that as one got older, one became a conservative (and by older, I mean getting a job, paying bills, paying taxes, etc.). I never understood it to mean that one side acted from emotion and one side acted from rationality.

I always took it to mean that Churchill is a heartless brain dead moron who likes large things being stuck up his butt. (Well sorta, but more severe than that. ;3)

It seems to me that liberals should be better at dealing with conflicting information. Every policy they try to implement to make things better....only makes them worse (for example Johnson's war on poverty), so they have vast experience dealing with the Cognitive Dissonance that must arise.

rockfist wrote:It seems to me that liberals should be better at dealing with conflicting information. Every policy they try to implement to make things better....only makes them worse (for example Johnson's war on poverty), so they have vast experience dealing with the Cognitive Dissonance that must arise.

So this must be true because you used one example and didn't even explain how that example proves such a bold claim.

rockfist wrote:It seems to me that liberals should be better at dealing with conflicting information. Every policy they try to implement to make things better....only makes them worse (for example Johnson's war on poverty), so they have vast experience dealing with the Cognitive Dissonance that must arise.

How about conservatives who used to beleive tax cuts solve the deficit in the long run?

Liberals make mistakes, conservatives make mistakes but as long as people make the policy decision for the right reasons and with enough research and cost-benefit analysis then things should generally turn out for the good. When ideology is the reason behind policy it will generally fail or have unrealised consequences.

Titanic wrote:

rockfist wrote:It seems to me that liberals should be better at dealing with conflicting information. Every policy they try to implement to make things better....only makes them worse (for example Johnson's war on poverty), so they have vast experience dealing with the Cognitive Dissonance that must arise.

How about conservatives who used to beleive tax cuts solve the deficit in the long run?

Liberals make mistakes, conservatives make mistakes but as long as people make the policy decision for the right reasons and with enough research and cost-benefit analysis then things should generally turn out for the good. When ideology is the reason behind policy it will generally fail or have unrealised consequences.

Ideology aside, that's what the economists of the Soviet Union believed too!