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Re: IP address check on joining CC
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:20 pm
by Criticalwinner
If anything, this suggestion will take numerous people's accounts down. I usually log in from 1 computer, which is then shared between me and my roommates. This would effectively not let us play. Secondly, a 24 hour buffer time would make people come back. We are in a "now" society. If we can't play "now", we don't want it.
I am totally open to cracking down on multis.... but this is not the way to do it.
Re: IP address check on joining CC
Posted: Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:57 pm
by agentcom
Problems:
People "caught" who are not cheating: workplace, roommates, etc.
People cheating not caught: anyone who logs in from different places (home and work, non-static IPs, etc.)
New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:42 am
by universalchiro
Concise description:- New Accounts must be accompanied with a new IP Address
Specifics/Details:- When someone opens a new account they will give a User name which becomes their ID. A program does a quick search to make sure the User name is not already being used. Expand this to include a quick search to make sure a duplicate IP address is not already being used.
How this will benefit the site and/or other comments:- Significantly reduce Multiple Account attempts. Which will reduce C&A cases, which will reduce moderator work load. This will also reduce multi-hunters that find games waiting for players & join them for quick points when the multi-account player is busted.
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 11:48 am
by Agent 86
Suggested this years ago..went no-where. Maybe this time...
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:00 pm
by MoB Deadly
What happens when someone is playing in school during free time, tells a friend about it, and then he cant sign up because it is the same IP?
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 2:35 pm
by Agent 86
MoB Deadly wrote:What happens when someone is playing in school during free time, tells a friend about it, and then he cant sign up because it is the same IP?
That is one reason why it went south..more reasons please. We can just feel free to have all the multies we like.
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:16 pm
by TheForgivenOne
Agent 86 wrote:MoB Deadly wrote:What happens when someone is playing in school during free time, tells a friend about it, and then he cant sign up because it is the same IP?
That is one reason why it went south..more reasons please. We can just feel free to have all the multies we like.
Also with family members playing out of the same household.
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:36 pm
by Shannon Apple
You will also have cases where people are using a dynamic IP. It's pretty easy to tell through a proper IP search if they are multies or not (even if they are using a dynamic IP), but chances are, if your IP is dynamic, then others on the site that you probably don't even know will share some on the same IP string at some stage, maybe even sharing one of the exact IPs that was in use by you some time ago. They recycle. You'd be blocking legitimate players from playing based on IPs that were in use by someone else in the past. It makes it all not so black and white and it also means that mods probably look at more than just the IP addresses before banning people.
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 4:24 pm
by universalchiro
Roger that. Same households and same school/work locations. Good enough reasons why this fails in it's simplicity.
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 8:07 pm
by Army of GOD
I play CC by snail mail so I don't even have a so-called IP Address (whatever that is).
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:59 pm
by Metsfanmax
We could have a system where the MHs are automatically notified if someone with the same IP address registers for a new account, perhaps?
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 1:59 am
by universalchiro
Metsfanmax wrote:We could have a system where the MHs are automatically notified if someone with the same IP address registers for a new account, perhaps?
+1
Now we are cooking with peanut oil. Who knows, maybe one day you'll be elevated to "head thinker".
Re: New Accounts with IP Address check
Posted: Thu Feb 27, 2014 8:35 am
by Metsfanmax
universalchiro wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:We could have a system where the MHs are automatically notified if someone with the same IP address registers for a new account, perhaps?
+1
Now we are cooking with peanut oil.
It would be an interesting pilot project. We could do it for a little while and see what fraction of the repeat IPs actually are multis. If it's enough to continue justify checking out all of them, then we continue. If it's 1%, then we don't. We could possibly even do this now by just checking the last X people to join the site.
Who knows, maybe one day you'll be elevated to "head thinker".
A man can dream.
Re: IP Check at registration
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2014 7:22 pm
by spiesr
Re: IP Check at registration
Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2014 11:45 am
by DoomYoshi
If I went to Stanford, I have a bajillion IPs I could use every day. I could make enough multis to equal the current number of users and not run out of IPs.
EDIT: Actually, they gave up their /8 block in 2004. That's lame. They should have kept it to try and stop the internet from growing.
Re: IP Check at registration
Posted: Sat Mar 15, 2014 1:12 am
by DoomYoshi
Also, for those worried about the idea, you can always do an IP check yourself.