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Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 9:20 am
by Night Strike
angola wrote:School records are protected from Freedom of Information records.

They are not public information, so I'm sure that's why we haven't seen them.


Oh, and George Bush? You are seriously lauding him for getting a C- in college? Seriously?


That inconsistency right there is one of the reasons why people ask. Either Bush shared his results at some point, or they were illegally obtained.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:25 am
by notyou2
Is this the Phat fist rock'n scotty Night time Strike out and have fun club?

Where do I sign up?

Or are those records sealed for exclusivity/don't tell reasons?

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:49 pm
by PLAYER57832
Night Strike wrote:
angola wrote:School records are protected from Freedom of Information records.

They are not public information, so I'm sure that's why we haven't seen them.


Oh, and George Bush? You are seriously lauding him for getting a C- in college? Seriously?


That inconsistency right there is one of the reasons why people ask. Either Bush shared his results at some point, or they were illegally obtained.

They seem to have been leaked along with his National Gaurd stuff. To claim that just because one person released their records anybody else who doesn't is "hiding something" is the type of claim McCarthy made some 60 years ago. I thought we were past those times.

But.. history does repeat itself, they say.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 2:51 pm
by PLAYER57832
heavycola wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:In other words ALL A's!


I think you mean 'All praise be to ALL A!' lulz!

I see, so now I am a Muslim?

Funny weren't you just claiming it was liberals who were making all kinds of silly accusations and comparisons?

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 3:52 pm
by Phatscotty
angola wrote:School records are protected from Freedom of Information records.

They are not public information, so I'm sure that's why we haven't seen them.

Of course, if Obama released his records, you same yahoos would be on here either saying "oh, that fucking Obama, he is trying to act like he is too smart for the average citizen" or you would be saying "lies. lies! he is from kenya and shouldn't be allowed to attend our universities or run for president. Where is his birth certificate!!!111!!!!"

Who fucking cares what grades he got? I'm sure he did fine and passed college.

Are you a birther PhatScotty? Do you think Obama actually is a citizen? You start the most inane threads, yet you also show intelligence in your posts. I'm confused. Are you just another psycho in this country that wants to start stupid rumors or do you have intelligent thought?

Oh, and George Bush? You are seriously lauding him for getting a C- in college? Seriously? Shit, I somehow pulled out a B average despite doing a lot of drugs and drinking large quantities of alcohol. Should I be lauded? Should I marry someone who killed someone while drunk driving and had my parents cover it up? Should I be President?


Hey, take from it what you will and spin it however you like and compare whatever you like.

My entire point....Just 1 more thing we do not know about him. (the part about people saying how smart, brilliant, and genius Obama is, with knowing so little about Obama, says a lot about the people who say it, and is just for laughs :lol: :lol: :lol: )

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:03 pm
by heavycola
PLAYER57832 wrote:
heavycola wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:In other words ALL A's!


I think you mean 'All praise be to ALL A!' lulz!

I see, so now I am a Muslim?

Funny weren't you just claiming it was liberals who were making all kinds of silly accusations and comparisons?


Of course you're a muslim. Don't even try to convince us otherwise. All liberals are muslims.

(I am assuming you weren't being serious either...)

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:09 pm
by Phatscotty
this mental masturbation may work a bit better if you switch hands and turn on "The View"

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 4:16 pm
by Night Strike
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
angola wrote:School records are protected from Freedom of Information records.

They are not public information, so I'm sure that's why we haven't seen them.


Oh, and George Bush? You are seriously lauding him for getting a C- in college? Seriously?


That inconsistency right there is one of the reasons why people ask. Either Bush shared his results at some point, or they were illegally obtained.

They seem to have been leaked along with his National Gaurd stuff. To claim that just because one person released their records anybody else who doesn't is "hiding something" is the type of claim McCarthy made some 60 years ago. I thought we were past those times.

But.. history does repeat itself, they say.


So the leaking was most likely politically motivated to discredit Bush.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 5:10 pm
by Phatscotty

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 8:04 pm
by PLAYER57832
Night Strike wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Night Strike wrote:
angola wrote:School records are protected from Freedom of Information records.

They are not public information, so I'm sure that's why we haven't seen them.


Oh, and George Bush? You are seriously lauding him for getting a C- in college? Seriously?


That inconsistency right there is one of the reasons why people ask. Either Bush shared his results at some point, or they were illegally obtained.

They seem to have been leaked along with his National Gaurd stuff. To claim that just because one person released their records anybody else who doesn't is "hiding something" is the type of claim McCarthy made some 60 years ago. I thought we were past those times.

But.. history does repeat itself, they say.


So the leaking was most likely politically motivated to discredit Bush.


It was known before he began his presidential run.. not sure exactly when (maybe when he ran for governor, maybe before). It did not emerge with the presidency, it re-emerged.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2010 10:47 pm
by Phatscotty
Certainly, his GPA is not a national secret...is it?

what is the reason that he has his thesis and his grades sealed? and what can we learn from this that we can apply to the birth certificate fiasco.

"He wouldnt seal that"

oops, HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS SEALED TOO! :idea:

and the files...on stanley dunham have been sealed....

Noticing a pattern, and it aint transparency!

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 6:20 am
by notyou2
Are all your records on the web Phatty?

Of course they aren't, because you deserve some privacy in your life.

Why, doesn't he too?

Oh yeah, It's because he's a socialist fascist trained marxist muslim that attends a black panther church, and because he was born in canadakenyamalaysia. He's special, all his records should be public domain.

Get a life.

Go jump on the Paris Hilton band wagon or something.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:01 am
by PLAYER57832
notyou2 wrote:Are all your records on the web Phatty?

Of course they aren't, because you deserve some privacy in your life.

Why, doesn't he too?

Oh yeah, It's because he's a socialist fascist trained marxist muslim that attends a black panther church, and because he was born in canadakenyamalaysia. He's special, all his records should be public domain.

Get a life.

Go jump on the Paris Hilton band wagon or something.

But you only think that because you are a commie pinko with a hidden Moslem agenda... just like me. ;)

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 7:07 am
by PLAYER57832
Phatscotty wrote:Certainly, his GPA is not a national secret...is it?

what is the reason that he has his thesis and his grades sealed? and what can we learn from this that we can apply to the birth certificate fiasco.

"He wouldnt seal that"

oops, HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS SEALED TOO! :idea:

and the files...on stanley dunham have been sealed....

Noticing a pattern, and it aint transparency!

The pattern you are following is called McCarthyism.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:04 am
by GabonX
You guys are crazy if you think it's out of line to ask questions about a politicians background. Privacy?? Puh-leez, you give up that right when you make a serious bid for the presidency.

You guys are just making excuses, to the detriment of us all.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:11 am
by saxitoxin
I believe, in the United States, it's customary for prospective workers to release their educational records to employers.

It surprises me Obama won't release his educational records to his employers.*


* JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, GoldmanSachs, UnitedHealth

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:15 am
by PLAYER57832
Phatscotty wrote:Yeah, but....TRANSPARENCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

In government, Phat, not his private life.

(now, he has not been as transparent in government as we would like, but he HAS been an improvement over Bush in that regard).

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:17 am
by PLAYER57832
saxitoxin wrote:I believe, in the United States, it's customary for prospective workers to release their educational records to employers.

Not really. That's mostly for entry-level jobs, where the educational record is used to substitute for practical experience. I don't see the presidency as an "entry level position", but that's just me. AND, the employers are generally proscribed from further releasing that information.

... but nice thought.
saxitoxin wrote:It surprises me Obama won't release his educational records to his employers.*
* JP Morgan Chase, Citigroup, GoldmanSachs, UnitedHealth

lol.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 8:51 am
by Night Strike
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Certainly, his GPA is not a national secret...is it?

what is the reason that he has his thesis and his grades sealed? and what can we learn from this that we can apply to the birth certificate fiasco.

"He wouldnt seal that"

oops, HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS SEALED TOO! :idea:

and the files...on stanley dunham have been sealed....

Noticing a pattern, and it aint transparency!

The pattern you are following is called McCarthyism.


So asking legitimate questions is now McCarthyism? No one is getting fired or thrown in jail from answering these questions.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:00 am
by PLAYER57832
Night Strike wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Certainly, his GPA is not a national secret...is it?

what is the reason that he has his thesis and his grades sealed? and what can we learn from this that we can apply to the birth certificate fiasco.

"He wouldnt seal that"

oops, HIS BIRTH CERTIFICATE IS SEALED TOO! :idea:

and the files...on stanley dunham have been sealed....

Noticing a pattern, and it aint transparency!

The pattern you are following is called McCarthyism.


So asking legitimate questions is now McCarthyism?
No, insinuating that the only reason someone would fail to release normally private information is that they are hiding something dastardly... THAT very much is McCarthyism.

Particularly when tied with "marxist" accussations.

here is a link for anyone who missed this part of their history lessons:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McCarthyism

the first paragraph gives a decent definition:
McCarthyism is the political action of making accusations of disloyalty, subversion, or treason without proper regard for evidence. The term specifically describes activities associated with the period in the United States known as the Second Red Scare, lasting roughly from the late 1940s to the late 1950s and characterized by heightened fears of communist influence on American institutions and espionage by Soviet agents. Originally coined to criticize the anti-communist pursuits of U.S. Senator Joseph McCarthy, "McCarthyism" soon took on a broader meaning, describing the excesses of similar efforts. The term is also now used more generally to describe reckless, unsubstantiated accusations, as well as demagogic attacks on the character or patriotism of political adversaries.

Night Strike wrote:No one is getting fired or thrown in jail from answering these questions.

...yet.

though, if you want to get technical, telling people to vote someone out of office because "they are a marxist" and other idiocy is pretty much getting people fired based on false accusations... very much like McCarthy.

McCarthy gave us Nixon. Wonder who this new round will give us?

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Fri Sep 03, 2010 9:12 am
by saxitoxin
PLAYER57832 wrote:
saxitoxin wrote:I believe, in the United States, it's customary for prospective workers to release their educational records to employers.

Not really. That's mostly for entry-level jobs


Reality seems to disagree with you. Again.

USA Today wrote:40% of companies regularly verify degrees

http://www.usatoday.com/money/workplace ... rees_x.htm

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 12:31 am
by Phatscotty

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 8:53 am
by notyou2
PLAYER57832 wrote:
though, if you want to get technical, telling people to vote someone out of office because "they are a marxist" and other idiocy is pretty much getting people fired based on false accusations... very much like McCarthy.


I would take it one step further as I believe it is subversion, or at the very least slander.

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 9:48 am
by Night Strike
notyou2 wrote:
PLAYER57832 wrote:
though, if you want to get technical, telling people to vote someone out of office because "they are a marxist" and other idiocy is pretty much getting people fired based on false accusations... very much like McCarthy.


I would take it one step further as I believe it is subversion, or at the very least slander.


But all the comments made against McCain and Palin during the 2008 election were completely legitimate?

Re: Obama Average D+ in College?

Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2010 10:16 am
by notyou2
If it was slander or subversion, then I would say so no matter the political affiliation of the purson being slandered.