Conquer Club

Frigidus wrote:I'm just gonna quote what I said in a private forum.

Frigidus wrote:There are plenty of games out there that let you play as Germans in WWII, and I can't say I've ever heard complaints about that. Anyways, despite knowing virtually nothing about the game, I'm sure that the single player aspect of the game takes place only from the American perspective.

The bottom line for me is that in your average multiplayer First Person Shooters there have to be at least two sides (there are exceptions, but they are becoming increasingly rare). If you're basing your game off of real events, that means that two real groups are going to be killing each other.

Army of GOD wrote:

Frigidus wrote:I'm just gonna quote what I said in a private forum.

Frigidus wrote:There are plenty of games out there that let you play as Germans in WWII, and I can't say I've ever heard complaints about that. Anyways, despite knowing virtually nothing about the game, I'm sure that the single player aspect of the game takes place only from the American perspective.

The bottom line for me is that in your average multiplayer First Person Shooters there have to be at least two sides (there are exceptions, but they are becoming increasingly rare). If you're basing your game off of real events, that means that two real groups are going to be killing each other.

OMG! I WAS THERE!

Frigidus wrote:

Army of GOD wrote:

Frigidus wrote:I'm just gonna quote what I said in a private forum.

Frigidus wrote:There are plenty of games out there that let you play as Germans in WWII, and I can't say I've ever heard complaints about that. Anyways, despite knowing virtually nothing about the game, I'm sure that the single player aspect of the game takes place only from the American perspective.

The bottom line for me is that in your average multiplayer First Person Shooters there have to be at least two sides (there are exceptions, but they are becoming increasingly rare). If you're basing your game off of real events, that means that two real groups are going to be killing each other.

OMG! I WAS THERE!

THAT THREAD IS SO AMAZING, RIGHT?! EVERYONE IS MISSING OUT!

ViperOverLord wrote:Look at the lack of intelligence of the highest rated comments for that video. I could care less what the ignorant gamers think.

This was a bad move by EA IMO. I don't think it was good idea to make the game to begin with, but at least don't allow the user to kill American soldiers. That is just a pathetic move by EA and they should have had more foresight.

BTW MV - I think you posted some cowardly comments on this thread. I'll leave it at that because I'm not trying to flame.

ViperOverLord wrote:

pmchugh wrote:As horrible as it is to lose a family member in combat, what the f*ck does this have to do with EA's game?

It a friggin game, in COD you can kill american soldiers in GTA you can kill cops etc etc This is the typical thing where someone who has suffered takes it out on the wrong people and no-one can disagree because of said persons suffering. I wont buy the game if it does come out I really don't give a sh*t about it but this is just much ado about nothing.

I have friends and family in the military. Fortunately none of them have been killed. You don't have to have a loved one killed in the military to know that this game is offensive. Yes I realize that many gamers legitimately enjoy the game and they don't have the same mindset as this lady. But the game is in poor taste.

ViperOverLord wrote:

pmchugh wrote:As horrible as it is to lose a family member in combat, what the f*ck does this have to do with EA's game?

It a friggin game, in COD you can kill american soldiers in GTA you can kill cops etc etc This is the typical thing where someone who has suffered takes it out on the wrong people and no-one can disagree because of said persons suffering. I wont buy the game if it does come out I really don't give a sh*t about it but this is just much ado about nothing.

I have friends and family in the military. Fortunately none of them have been killed. You don't have to have a loved one killed in the military to know that this game is offensive. Yes I realize that many gamers legitimately enjoy the game and they don't have the same mindset as this lady. But the game is in poor taste.

But on the whole, I agree. I'm happy to let my 8-year old son play these games, as long as he only blows the shit out of computer-generated reprersentations of camel-jockeys, russians and ethnics. I will NOT permit him to point his fake DeathFuck2000 semi-automatic at any computer-generated representations of Americans. Don't want him getting all fucked up in the head, do we?

thegreekdog wrote:(1) Not being sympathetic to a parent who has lost their child in war, whether the child voluntarily enlisted or not. I think we should all be sympathetic to anyone who loses a loved one regardless of the circumstances.

saxitoxin wrote:FIRST,
EA are war-profiteers as much as Raytheon. This game wouldn't sell as well as it will if it was a game in which Flumpy-Wumpy's battled Purple Pony Princesses. EA is about to generate shareholder profits from an active war.

While Fur Fighters was not a tremendous financial success and went almost unnoticed by the majority of gamers at the time, critically the game was almost universally praised for its size, scope, sense of humour, and attention to detail. The fact that mindless violence was not the sole gameplay element impressed many, and the game went on to become a sort of cult classic.

The Bison King wrote:

But on the whole, I agree. I'm happy to let my 8-year old son play these games, as long as he only blows the shit out of computer-generated reprersentations of camel-jockeys, russians and ethnics. I will NOT permit him to point his fake DeathFuck2000 semi-automatic at any computer-generated representations of Americans. Don't want him getting all fucked up in the head, do we?

WTF are you talking about! If anything is going to f*ck him up in the head it's the shooting part! So you're telling me that it's ok for your 8 year old son to learn to kill ethnics from video games just so long as he doesn't learn to shoot Americans (or at least non ethnic Americans. WTF is with all the fucking racism on the forums lately!

Please tell me that your post was sarcasm.

Georgerx7di wrote:

The Bison King wrote:

But on the whole, I agree. I'm happy to let my 8-year old son play these games, as long as he only blows the shit out of computer-generated reprersentations of camel-jockeys, russians and ethnics. I will NOT permit him to point his fake DeathFuck2000 semi-automatic at any computer-generated representations of Americans. Don't want him getting all fucked up in the head, do we?

WTF are you talking about! If anything is going to f*ck him up in the head it's the shooting part! So you're telling me that it's ok for your 8 year old son to learn to kill ethnics from video games just so long as he doesn't learn to shoot Americans (or at least non ethnic Americans. WTF is with all the fucking racism on the forums lately!

Please tell me that your post was sarcasm.

Wow man, you're really on top of things. You definitely understood this post.

The Bison King wrote:

Georgerx7di wrote:

The Bison King wrote:

But on the whole, I agree. I'm happy to let my 8-year old son play these games, as long as he only blows the shit out of computer-generated reprersentations of camel-jockeys, russians and ethnics. I will NOT permit him to point his fake DeathFuck2000 semi-automatic at any computer-generated representations of Americans. Don't want him getting all fucked up in the head, do we?

WTF are you talking about! If anything is going to f*ck him up in the head it's the shooting part! So you're telling me that it's ok for your 8 year old son to learn to kill ethnics from video games just so long as he doesn't learn to shoot Americans (or at least non ethnic Americans. WTF is with all the fucking racism on the forums lately!

Please tell me that your post was sarcasm.

Wow man, you're really on top of things. You definitely understood this post.

Unless it was really was sarcasm in which case I apologize. If not, I stand by my WTF.

Frigidus wrote:I'm just gonna quote what I said in a private forum.

Frigidus wrote:There are plenty of games out there that let you play as Germans in WWII, and I can't say I've ever heard complaints about that. Anyways, despite knowing virtually nothing about the game, I'm sure that the single player aspect of the game takes place only from the American perspective.

The bottom line for me is that in your average multiplayer First Person Shooters there have to be at least two sides (there are exceptions, but they are becoming increasingly rare). If you're basing your game off of real events, that means that two real groups are going to be killing each other.

The Bison King wrote:

Georgerx7di wrote:

The Bison King wrote:

But on the whole, I agree. I'm happy to let my 8-year old son play these games, as long as he only blows the shit out of computer-generated reprersentations of camel-jockeys, russians and ethnics. I will NOT permit him to point his fake DeathFuck2000 semi-automatic at any computer-generated representations of Americans. Don't want him getting all fucked up in the head, do we?

WTF are you talking about! If anything is going to f*ck him up in the head it's the shooting part! So you're telling me that it's ok for your 8 year old son to learn to kill ethnics from video games just so long as he doesn't learn to shoot Americans (or at least non ethnic Americans. WTF is with all the fucking racism on the forums lately!

Please tell me that your post was sarcasm.

Wow man, you're really on top of things. You definitely understood this post.

Unless it was really was sarcasm in which case I apologize. If not, I stand by my WTF.

Night Strike wrote:

Frigidus wrote:I'm just gonna quote what I said in a private forum.

Frigidus wrote:There are plenty of games out there that let you play as Germans in WWII, and I can't say I've ever heard complaints about that. Anyways, despite knowing virtually nothing about the game, I'm sure that the single player aspect of the game takes place only from the American perspective.

The bottom line for me is that in your average multiplayer First Person Shooters there have to be at least two sides (there are exceptions, but they are becoming increasingly rare). If you're basing your game off of real events, that means that two real groups are going to be killing each other.

I think there are two large differences between fighting as a Nazi versus as a Taliban. The first it the proximity in time to the battle. WWII happened 65 years ago while the War on Terror is still an active war with skirmishes against the Taliban an ongoing reality. Time doesn't heal all wounds, but it does take the edge off of them, and the wounds are still too fresh for many families of loved ones currently fighting. Furthermore, many families of soldiers know that this war is a fairly unpopular one, so some families may believe that a game that promotes the killing of US soldiers is a way to make a political statement against the war.

Georgerx7di wrote:

The Bison King wrote:

Georgerx7di wrote:

The Bison King wrote:

But on the whole, I agree. I'm happy to let my 8-year old son play these games, as long as he only blows the shit out of computer-generated reprersentations of camel-jockeys, russians and ethnics. I will NOT permit him to point his fake DeathFuck2000 semi-automatic at any computer-generated representations of Americans. Don't want him getting all fucked up in the head, do we?

WTF are you talking about! If anything is going to f*ck him up in the head it's the shooting part! So you're telling me that it's ok for your 8 year old son to learn to kill ethnics from video games just so long as he doesn't learn to shoot Americans (or at least non ethnic Americans. WTF is with all the fucking racism on the forums lately!

Please tell me that your post was sarcasm.

Wow man, you're really on top of things. You definitely understood this post.

Unless it was really was sarcasm in which case I apologize. If not, I stand by my WTF.

It was definitely sarcasm.

mviola wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:"My son didn't get to start over when he was killed."

He shouldn't have went overseas then.

ksslemp wrote:

mviola wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:"My son didn't get to start over when he was killed."

He shouldn't have went overseas then.

f*ck YOU!!!
What a Fucking Piece of Shit you are for saying that!!!!

mviola wrote:

ksslemp wrote:

mviola wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:"My son didn't get to start over when he was killed."

He shouldn't have went overseas then.

f*ck YOU!!!
What a Fucking Piece of Shit you are for saying that!!!!

Really, calling me names to get me to keep my opinion to myself? Not all of us support the war you know.

mviola wrote:

ksslemp wrote:

mviola wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:"My son didn't get to start over when he was killed."

He shouldn't have went overseas then.

f*ck YOU!!!
What a Fucking Piece of Shit you are for saying that!!!!

Really, calling me names to get me to keep my opinion to myself? Not all of us support the war you know.

ksslemp wrote:

mviola wrote:

ksslemp wrote:

mviola wrote:

Juan_Bottom wrote:"My son didn't get to start over when he was killed."

He shouldn't have went overseas then.

f*ck YOU!!!
What a Fucking Piece of Shit you are for saying that!!!!

Really, calling me names to get me to keep my opinion to myself? Not all of us support the war you know.

Not trying to get you to keep your opinion to yourself!
Just saying you are a Fucking Piece of Shit for having that opinion! Capish?

Maybe you could go over and give the Taliban a great big hug, then they will know how nice Americans are and forget all about enslaving people.
Give them a cd of 50cent, i'm sure they'd appreciate it.

Take in some sights while you're there, maybe go see the large Buddha rubble pile or head over to a soccer stadium and watch a couple quarters of stonings. pack extra kevlar and leave your Bible!

Bon Voyage