North America 2.0 [Quenched]

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 8:54 pm

---'New England' looks a little small, and it has the room to be larger.

---Canadian Shield looks a little odd, perhaps the name should go in the water, or part of it perhaps?

---Also, is there any reason why the names in Mexico are white (fine), and the Tropics are black?

Just made New England 12 pt, instead of 10, and bolded all the country names. I moved "Canadian Shield" it's kind of a weird place regardless, but it looks better now.

Mexcio's names being white and Tropics' being black, there isn't really any reason that I can remember. It's its bothersome, I can change them. Other area's of the map are black/white depending on the color behind the words, if you were wondering about that too.

I'm hoping Grim has a tip or two for the resize, he's really good w/ photoshop (just look at his europe map). I'll post new pics soon, hopefully a small and large.

Another question for anyone who might know, I've just realized that my trial for photoshop expires in three days... not good. Can I still open up my map in it when the trials over? If not, I figure I can find a way to get another trial version.

-dublin

Hoff · Post by **Hoff** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:35 pm

how can you get a free trial of photoshop? I want to make a map but all i have is msPaint. How long does teh trial last?

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 9:53 pm

Hoff wrote:how can you get a free trial of photoshop? I want to make a map but all i have is msPaint. How long does teh trial last?

I found it on the photoshop website. it lasts 30 days and has all the same features as regular photoshop

thegrimsleeper · Post by **thegrimsleeper** » Sun Apr 16, 2006 11:58 pm

Well, unfortunately, when you're resizing and text is involved, there's only so much you can do. You can resize the image and then just move the text around accordingly, but that won't help you much here since your map is as vertically oriented as it is horizontally.

The Europe map is 800x600, and playing on a monitor at 1280x1024, you still have a bit of room before you have to start scrolling. So you should create a larger image of say 750xwhatever, and see how that looks. Then just size it down to 80% and you've got your small.

As far as text goes, I'm going to drop one on you that I think will be a big help: Make sure it's all white, and sized the way you like, positioned correctly, etc. Then, merge all the layers of text into one. Go to Layer Styles/Stroke, with a color of black and a 1px weight.

Voila.

You're going to need larger circles, no doubt. If you make them large enough on the large, they'll still be big enough that you won't have to redo them on the small.

Extending your usage depends on
1) whether you can afford to shell out the $600 for a full version

2) your willingness to possibly infect your machine with spyware that may be contained in a keygen
3) a knowledge of which registry keys to edit so you can get another 30 days out of another trial.

If you can grab that full version without employing any of these options, you let me know.

I'm using 5.0 and it's killing me.

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:38 pm

just letting everyone know that this hasn't fallen off the face of the earth, just another busy week with track/school/prom stuff/ap psych final/work

hoping to put up a final version during the weekend, then on to the xml

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 8:40 pm

Good to hear it hasn't gone the way of the wind. I've been waiting for this one to become near finalized! I nearly set up a man hunt to find you and question you about this map...hehe

--Andy

tomatoman25 · Post by **tomatoman25** » Thu Apr 27, 2006 11:38 pm

yeah i am really looking forward to this map. It looks really great and should be a lot of fun

supermarcol · Post by **supermarcol** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 12:12 am

The map looks great. Since you're almost done with it, I thought I should mention 2 little name mistakes. I don't know if they have been mentionned before, but they are in the last picture, and I didn't see mention of them when I skimmed through the posts. Labrador and Newfoundland are inverted, and I'm pretty much sure its spelled Nunavut. I wish I could check for the rest, but my geographical knowledge is pretty limited.

haha · Post by **haha** » Fri Apr 28, 2006 6:32 am

i think ur right

bob the fig · Post by **bob the fig** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 2:47 pm

i think you should link all of the tropics together, instead of making it separate, like the islands and the mainland. make Cuba touch the mainland

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:24 pm

i think you should link all of the tropics together, instead of making it separate, like the islands and the mainland. make Cuba touch the mainland

Well, you see, they are islands, and it wouldn't really make any sense to have them literally touching the mainland

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:33 pm

I see where Bob the Fig is coming from though. If you do own the tropics, you essentially must own the Yucatan also. Otherwise you are stuck nearly with different areas, and no cross fortification. Is there is a large troop build up in the Yucatan from another player that owns Mexico, they could easily it seems wipe out the Continental Tropics due no viable points of fortification from the Islands to the Continental area. This might make the tropics harder to hold than you initially intended.

--Andy

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 3:39 pm

If that's what he's trying to say, although it didnt really seem like it, I could add a connection from nicaragua to haiti, wouldn't be too hard.

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 4:15 pm

I think that would be a very good idea.

Phx99 · Post by **Phx99** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 5:30 pm

had to laugh at "Nonfat"...

stupid spell checker...

Great map though!!

Phx99

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:34 pm

Well, here it is, what I truly believe to be the final version. Unless there are spelling mistakes, glaringly wrong borders or other similar things, I really think I've completed the visual half of my map.

Let me know if I'm right on, or out in left field

Jota · Post by **Jota** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 8:53 pm

It looks good to me. I can't think of anything to complain about.

IronWolf359 · Post by **IronWolf359** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:19 pm

Yahoo!!!

Chiater · Post by **Chiater** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:34 pm

Hey, I'm a bit biased since I'm from New Brunswick... but I think you should call Nova Scotia New Brunswick... firstly, cuz NB is bigger than Nova Scotia, and secondly cuz its more french then nova scotia... NB is like 1/3 french... Nova sctoais is like all english. That is all.

Hoff · Post by **Hoff** » Sat Apr 29, 2006 9:53 pm

I think it looks awesome, i cant wait to play.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:47 am

You are surely wrong.

1st, the legend is terrible!!
2nd, I would like rivers, not continuations of the background. Sure that thegrimsleeper can probably do it for you.
3rd, some borders, like in French Canada, are thick and should be refined.
4th, but also very important, Im sure the number are bigger than these discs.

You worked hard, so you will not let these minor problems to pass, right?

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 7:47 am

4th, but also very important, Im sure the number are bigger than these discs

Does anyone know how big the numbers are, I don't want circles that're too small, but i don't want 'em too big either.

freakshow · Post by **freakshow** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 11:05 am

Chiater wrote:Hey, I'm a bit biased since I'm from New Brunswick... but I think you should call Nova Scotia New Brunswick... firstly, cuz NB is bigger than Nova Scotia, and secondly cuz its more french then nova scotia... NB is like 1/3 french... Nova sctoais is like all english. That is all.

being from Novia Scotia I to may be a bit biased but I think we should keep it as Nova Scotia.
The numbers are roughly size 12 font so just make a mock up of a 2 digit number like 13 (my favorite) and try it on for size. As for the rest of your comments Marv... I think the legend is good, simple easy to read, it scores high in my book. The rivers are fine they are clear and sadly unless you make them red or something it's going to be hard to make them look alot diffrent than the water surrounding the country. Marv I know your a fan of arbitrary and unsymbolic unpassable borders but I like the fact that there are clearly mountains and rivers on this map. Your right on the third point though, make that line a little cleaner and you'r golden.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:27 pm

DublinDoogey wrote:
4th, but also very important, Im sure the number are bigger than these discs

Does anyone know how big the numbers are, I don't want circles that're too small, but i don't want 'em too big either.

Use the xml tester, use even with an existing xml, its only for you have the exact idea of the numbers size... But I remember, when you are doing a map, they are much bigger than they seem when you are playing.

haha · Post by **haha** » Fri May 05, 2006 9:04 pm

when are we going to be able to play this map
i cant wait