Senate Map [Quenched]

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:45 pm

brilliant map - nicely done. I applaud any effort that shows more creativity than scanning a page of an atlas.

As for the map configuration change, I actually prefer my maps to be a bit smaller. I don't like to have to keep scrolling down to attack and fortify while I'm playing on my laptop - that's the purpose of having a two sizes in the first place, right? By dropping the legend to the bottom of the small map, it may increase the size enough to defeat the purpose of having it at all... is it still within the suggested small map size?

And anybody who complains about a US-centric map should note the half dozen Europe maps currently in the foundry.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:00 pm

Holy moly, I LOVE this map.

Bad Speler · Post by **Bad Speler** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:40 pm

This map is great! A few suggestions though:

1. In the legend, you seem to have TV media and print media mixed up
2. Consider removing the wall between education and tobacco at the bottom of the map; currently the only way to get from one half to the other is throught the podium

oaktown · Post by **oaktown** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:44 pm

Bad Speler wrote:This map is great! A few suggestions though:

Consider removing the wall between education and tobacco at the bottom of the map; currently the only way to get from one half to the other is throught the podium

It would make more sense to remove the barrier between the TV and print media - I'm not sure education wants to associate with tobacco, though tobacco would love to get into the schools.

What, no pro-life or pro-choice lobbies?

rjp0305 · Post by **rjp0305** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:47 pm

Nice map. Good choice on banking, I was going to suggest something with automakers or unions, but you seem to be doing fine. Keep up the good work!!

Sargentgeneral · Post by **Sargentgeneral** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:31 pm

regarding oaktown and Bad Speler:

Or, you could just remove them both. If both the barriers were gone, it would add to the attacking theme of the map.

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 9:44 pm

Fitz69 wrote:

-You have misspelled 'environment' and 'Defense'

-Must words in the country names start with capital letters, but on the podium the countries with 2 words don't have the second word capitalized.

-I would put 'podium' below 'tv media' in the key so it is symmetrical.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:27 pm

Defence is the British spelling.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:48 pm

Which wouldn't make sense for this map. :-\

--Andy

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 10:54 pm

The red side needs a Jay.

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:55 pm

AndyDufresne wrote:Which wouldn't make sense for this map. :-\

--Andy

I absolutely agree.

DublinDoogey · Post by **DublinDoogey** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:37 am

I love how you did the impassable borders and if you look at it right, it looks like the senate floor desends with each level, which it actually does, and then ascends at the podium. Great map

I would suggest putting in a connection on the bottom of the map too, because, if i looked at it correctly, a person could hold an entire half of the map with only two borders.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:51 am

theoretically you could have south floor as your only border.

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:55 am

When this idea was first suggested I thought very little of the map and idea. Seeing how it has developed though, I look forward to playing the map. Excellent work.

Fitz69 · Post by **Fitz69** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:37 am

Bad Speler wrote:This map is great! A few suggestions though:

1. In the legend, you seem to have TV media and print media mixed up
2. Consider removing the wall between education and tobacco at the bottom of the map; currently the only way to get from one half to the other is throught the podium

1. Oops. SNAFU on my part.
2. Concentrating the only left-right movement to the podium is kinda in keeping with the theme.
If I open up a border somewhere, where would be the best place?
a. Kenny-Pam
b. Tabloid-CNN
c. Education-Tobacco

Hmm. maybe time for a poll?

Fitz69 · Post by **Fitz69** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:55 am

[/quote]

-You have misspelled 'environment' and 'Defense'

-Must words in the country names start with capital letters, but on the podium the countries with 2 words don't have the second word capitalized.

-I would put 'podium' below 'tv media' in the key so it is symmetrical.[/quote]

Spelling: Some say I've used Brittish spelling, but wouldn't International English (I thought I was using) be preferable? Note that we are not all US Americans playing here.

Yes, I missed the capital S in the security (both of them).

The symmetry of the whole bottom area of the gameboard works better with three blocks to the far right. It creates a visual counterweight to the dominating colours and text to the left. Originally I had it centered but just didn't feel right.

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:28 pm

Beyond the bonuses of the parties being a bit low, the continents of the lobbies being too difficult to reach each other, and a complete lack of appeal, no main problems to me...

I still think that a CC senate would be much better... whats the main problem about this idea?

What the hell is Sierra Club? Or NRA?

Wisse · Post by **Wisse** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:31 pm

Marvaddin wrote:Beyond the bonuses of the parties being a bit low, the continents of the lobbies being too difficult to reach each other, and a complete lack of appeal, no main problems to me...

I still think that a CC senate would be much better... whats the main problem about this idea?

What the hell is Sierra Club? Or NRA?

i hope i am in there too then

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 4:45 pm

Fitz69 wrote:Spelling: Some say I've used Brittish spelling, but wouldn't International English (I thought I was using) be preferable? Note that we are not all US Americans playing here.

Since the map is the US senate, I think you should use the US spelling of defense. I understand that not everyone on the site is American, but the map is.

Fitz69 wrote:The symmetry of the whole bottom area of the gameboard works better with three blocks to the far right. It creates a visual counterweight to the dominating colours and text to the left. Originally I had it centered but just didn't feel right.

That's fine then. I had just looked at the latest image and thought it looked strange being right aligned. Ideally you wouldn't have one block on its own line like that, but to change it you would need to do a single row for all 7 places.

glee · Post by **glee** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:01 pm

i like the idea of left to right connections going through the podium

btownmeggy · Post by **btownmeggy** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:16 pm

Sierra Club is an environmental lobby. NRA is a "Gun rights" lobby.

Fitz69 · Post by **Fitz69** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:41 am

sully800 wrote:
Fitz69 wrote:The symmetry of the whole bottom area of the gameboard works better with three blocks to the far right. It creates a visual counterweight to the dominating colours and text to the left. Originally I had it centered but just didn't feel right.

That's fine then. I had just looked at the latest image and thought it looked strange being right aligned. Ideally you wouldn't have one block on its own line like that, but to change it you would need to do a single row for all 7 places.

Good Idea! I'll check if it can be done single row.

Fitz69 · Post by **Fitz69** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:55 am

[quote="Marvaddin"]Beyond the bonuses of the parties being a bit low...[quote]

Yes, bonuses. I would appreciate some feedback regarding them. Any suggestions as to what levels would be appropriate?

qeee1 · Post by **qeee1** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:36 pm

I think bump the party bonuses to 7, leave all the others.

I really like the left right divide thing, gives the map something to distinguish it from other maps, allowing for nuances in strategy, don't open another border.

Also change title of map to U.S. Senate, there are other senates in the world. :wink:

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:11 pm

qeee1 wrote:I think bump the party bonuses to 7, leave all the others.

I really like the left right divide thing, gives the map something to distinguish it from other maps, allowing for nuances in strategy, don't open another border.

Also change title of map to U.S. Senate, there are other senates in the world.

qeee1 makes a good point for what you were trying to say.

add a jay on the red side.