Agenda Slipped Into Popular TV Programs

[muy_thaiguy]

What about the show "V" which has basically been pointed out by some as being nothing but negative allusions to the Obama administration.

Entertainment is always going to have claims on the issues of the day, because thats what people are often interested in or can be hooked with. If the allusions bother you significantly, its probably worth considering what it is about your views you feel uncomfortable with being criticized.

This one.

Also, Law & Order has always crafted shows around current events.

Finally, NCIS is a good show. I don't watch NCIS LA, but the small woman had a great role on The Practice back in the 90s.

I think I watched clips of The Practice, which is why that woman looked so familiar.

[Nobunaga]

What about the show "V" which has basically been pointed out by some as being nothing but negative allusions to the Obama administration.

Entertainment is always going to have claims on the issues of the day, because thats what people are often interested in or can be hooked with. If the allusions bother you significantly, its probably worth considering what it is about your views you feel uncomfortable with being criticized.

This one.

Also, Law & Order has always crafted shows around current events.

Finally, NCIS is a good show. I don't watch NCIS LA, but the small woman had a great role on The Practice back in the 90s.

I think I watched clips of The Practice, which is why that woman looked so familiar.

... I remember her from that 80's western film, Silverado.

... I wasn't around to see the Practice.

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[Snorri1234]

Anyway, talking about political agenda slipping into Tv-shows. The second to last episode of Angel featured a blonde female senator who "got a lock on the chick-vote" and is unbelievably evil. Pretty much Hillary Clinton to a tee.

An old example though. 2004.

[Snorri1234]

Also, she talks about getting elected as president in 2008. Dunno whether that's a cooincidence but I'm still saying: DAMN THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA ON TELEVISION!

[Nobunaga]

Also, she talks about getting elected as president in 2008. Dunno whether that's a cooincidence but I'm still saying: DAMN THE CONSERVATIVE AGENDA ON TELEVISION!

... You're dreaming. I saw those (crappy) episodes. Season 1 was so much better.

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[pimpdave]

Agendas and Television were invented at McGill University in 1867.

Slipping, also invented at McGill University, was sadly not invented until 1873, meaning there were 6 entire years of television and agendas that were not slipped into anything.

[Nobunaga]

... This is freaking nuts.

... From the article:

This week's episode of "Law & Order: SVU" featured a character played by John Larroquette talking to a detective and saying, "Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, all of 'em, they are like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate...They've convinced folks that immigrants are the problem, not corporations that fail to pay a living wage or a broken health care system..."

... Insane. And Americans are stupid enough to nod along...

... (and it's obvious the author has never actually listened to Limbaugh... don't know about Beck or O'Reilly).

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[Snorri1234]

.This week's episode of "Law & Order: SVU" featured a character played by John Larroquette talking to a detective and saying, [b]"Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, all of 'em, they are like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate..

So a guy on law and order speaks truth?


Who cares?

[Nobunaga]

.This week's episode of "Law & Order: SVU" featured a character played by John Larroquette talking to a detective and saying, [b]"Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, all of 'em, they are like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate..

So a guy on law and order speaks truth?


Who cares?

... Show me even one instance of Limbaugh bashing (legal) immigrants.

... You cannot.

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[Skittles!]

I still think you need to stop watching shit shows.

[Baron Von PWN]

.This week's episode of "Law & Order: SVU" featured a character played by John Larroquette talking to a detective and saying, [b]"Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, all of 'em, they are like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate..

So a guy on law and order speaks truth?


Who cares?

... Show me even one instance of Limbaugh bashing (legal) immigrants.

... You cannot.

...

The quote just says imegrants, not legal or ilegal.

[Nobunaga]

.This week's episode of "Law & Order: SVU" featured a character played by John Larroquette talking to a detective and saying, [b]"Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, all of 'em, they are like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate..

So a guy on law and order speaks truth?


Who cares?

... Show me even one instance of Limbaugh bashing (legal) immigrants.

... You cannot.

...

The quote just says imegrants, not legal or ilegal.

... The statement includes both of course.

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[john9blue]

This week's episode of "Law & Order: SVU" featured a character played by John Larroquette talking to a detective and saying, "Limbaugh, Beck, O'Reilly, all of 'em, they are like a cancer spreading ignorance and hate...They've convinced folks that immigrants are the problem, not corporations that fail to pay a living wage or a broken health care system..."

That wasn't subtle at all...

Snorri and skittles lacked reasoning as usual and you dismissed them quite easily because there's just no excuse for this. Maybe on shows like O'Reilly's, but the line between news and entertainment is growing pretty thin.

[Skittles!]

That is not news. That is an opinion. Writers of such shows can have such opinions.

If you think I actually care what is said - I don't. They ARE shit shows, so why the f*ck watch them in the first place? Plus, if you don't like what the writer's hint (subtly or not subtly), that's more reason not to watch it.

[KoolBak]

Is Bones a shit show? *crosses fingers* If it teaches me to hate guns, I'll have to blown my brains out!

The old violent Looney Tunes are still my favorite......

[BigBallinStalin]

Is Bones a shit show? *crosses fingers* If it teaches me to hate guns, I'll have to blown my brains out!

The old violent Looney Tunes are still my favorite......

OH NO, but you see, Looney Tunes also slipped some form of "agenda" through their popular TV program. You remember Marvin the Martian, right? WELL, obviously, he's a black man, and he constantly fails at whatever it is he tries to do. Who stops him!? The white man, as represented by the clever Bugs Bunny himself. Oh, the world has steeped to such low levels, not even our children our safe... HELL, I'm not safe! I've been exposed to such "agendas," I will forever take seriously the distorted view of some silly man's interpretation of Looney Tunes as well as take seriously any TV SHOW that expresses its mere opinion...



Directed to the complainers: On a more serious note, the only show worth watching here is in fact Looney Tunes. If you've got a problem with CSI or Law & Order, then it's about time... Perhaps you should stop watching such rubbish. [Cool guy with the orange hair steps into the scene--two men found dead at the bottom of a well. Orange hair man slips on the sunglasses and says, "Let's get to the bottom of this." <enter cool wicked and short guitar solo>] Law and Order? CSI? Oh for f*ck's sake, they're crap shows based on complete nonsense, and some of y'all still have enough nerve to take them seriously and then take the time to complain about their writers' opinions on this forum. Boycott this crap if you even feel so strongly against their views. Go do something more meaningful than wasting your time watching such garbage.

[KoolBak]

lol...Guess that applies to Daffy Duck as well...damn.

I prefer to just watch ignorantly happy ;o)

(as anyone that wants to push something down my throat has a better chance of seeing jesus). Ahhhhhhh....much mo betta ;o)

[pimpdave]

The old CSI episodes that were pretty much wrote updates of old Sherlock Holmes stories were pretty good, but only as homage.

In the first couple seasons of The X-Files, they did an update of the "locked room" mystery that Poe did in Murders in the Rue Morgue. That was pretty cool too.

But otherwise, yeah, that stuff is garbage.

[Nobunaga]

Is Bones a shit show? *crosses fingers* If it teaches me to hate guns, I'll have to blown my brains out!

The old violent Looney Tunes are still my favorite......

If you've got a problem with CSI or Law & Order, then it's about time... Perhaps you should stop watching such rubbish. .... Boycott this crap if you even feel so strongly against their views. Go do something more meaningful than wasting your time watching such garbage.

... You assume too much. I get my information from media watch groups, not from watching the television programs (with the exception of Bones, as my wife enjoys that show).

... The point is, millions watch. And as we all know Americans are, generally speaking, morons who know more about Tiger Woods' history of infidelity than they do the workings of their own government. These are the people who get their news from the Daily Show for crying out loud. Idiots (present company excluded of course).

... Many of the same folks brushing this off as, "It's just a shit show, change the channel" would, I suspect, be first in line to argue in favor of a Fairness Doctrine, be it through direct censorship or through more backdoor methods such as localization.

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[Titanic]

... You assume too much. I get my information from media watch groups, not from watching the television programs (with the exception of Bones, as my wife enjoys that show).

... The point is, millions watch. And as we all know Americans are, generally speaking, morons who know more about Tiger Woods' history of infidelity than they do the workings of their own government. These are the people who get their news from the Daily Show for crying out loud. Idiots (present company excluded of course).
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So you get all your information from "media watch groups" which I'm assuming are biased and only highlight certain stuff (care to link to some of these groups?). If you have not actually watched the whole episode yourself how can you comment on a 2 minute clip which say something or another? Also programmes will retain and attract new viewers if people can actually relate it to their lives, so unless the show is super amazing and gets huge audiences anyway the show needs to do extra stuff to make it more attractive (like they do with getting celebrities on it or shooting in famous locations).

Finally, I agree that large parts of the population are completely ignorant of political realities (on both sides), but ironically those people who watch the Daily Show actually scored the highest in a poll before the 2008 election in actually knowing what the hell was going on, above all of those who watched the news channels.

[BigBallinStalin]

Is Bones a shit show? *crosses fingers* If it teaches me to hate guns, I'll have to blown my brains out!

The old violent Looney Tunes are still my favorite......

If you've got a problem with CSI or Law & Order, then it's about time... Perhaps you should stop watching such rubbish. .... Boycott this crap if you even feel so strongly against their views. Go do something more meaningful than wasting your time watching such garbage.

... You assume too much. I get my information from media watch groups, not from watching the television programs (with the exception of Bones, as my wife enjoys that show).

... The point is, millions watch. And as we all know Americans are, generally speaking, morons who know more about Tiger Woods' history of infidelity than they do the workings of their own government. These are the people who get their news from the Daily Show for crying out loud. Idiots (present company excluded of course).

... Many of the same folks brushing this off as, "It's just a shit show, change the channel" would, I suspect, be first in line to argue in favor of a Fairness Doctrine, be it through direct censorship or through more backdoor methods such as localization.

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I really don't care to argue whether or not the Fairness Doctrine is favorable or not; my point still stands that the shows you are offended by are pretty much crap (except the recently discovered allusions to Edgar Allen Poe or Sherlock Holmes may save some face, but not much, BUT thanks for mentioning that pimpdave--interesting and new stuff has come to light, honestly).

And the only thing I'm assuming is that you watch such garbage as CSI and/or Law & Order and then feel compelled to comment on their writers' opinions. Whatever media watch groups you collect information from is of no concern, so please don't feel compelled to even mention that in the first place.

If you're so taken aback by the idea that "morons" who watch these shows would suddenly then start questioning things that these shows bring up, then that's fine. It's not too worthy complaining about since it's interesting that these writers have taken it upon themselves to raise some provoking questions to their audiences. And if these audiences don't question but just regurgitate then "OH WELL" welcome to Uhmerica, DARN, can't limit their freedom of speech can you? Cry some more please, or carry on with the issue to a different level.

[Nobunaga]

Is Bones a shit show? *crosses fingers* If it teaches me to hate guns, I'll have to blown my brains out!

The old violent Looney Tunes are still my favorite......

If you've got a problem with CSI or Law & Order, then it's about time... Perhaps you should stop watching such rubbish. .... Boycott this crap if you even feel so strongly against their views. Go do something more meaningful than wasting your time watching such garbage.

... You assume too much. I get my information from media watch groups, not from watching the television programs (with the exception of Bones, as my wife enjoys that show).

... The point is, millions watch. And as we all know Americans are, generally speaking, morons who know more about Tiger Woods' history of infidelity than they do the workings of their own government. These are the people who get their news from the Daily Show for crying out loud. Idiots (present company excluded of course).

... Many of the same folks brushing this off as, "It's just a shit show, change the channel" would, I suspect, be first in line to argue in favor of a Fairness Doctrine, be it through direct censorship or through more backdoor methods such as localization.

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I really don't care to argue whether or not the Fairness Doctrine is favorable or not; my point still stands that the shows you are offended by are pretty much crap (except the recently discovered allusions to Edgar Allen Poe or Sherlock Holmes may save some face, but not much, BUT thanks for mentioning that pimpdave--interesting and new stuff has come to light, honestly).

... I agree.

And the only thing I'm assuming is that you watch such garbage as CSI and/or Law & Order and then feel compelled to comment on their writers' opinions. Whatever media watch groups you collect information from is of no concern, so please don't feel compelled to even mention that in the first place.

... I feel no such compulsion.

If you're so taken aback by the idea that "morons" who watch these shows would suddenly then start questioning things that these shows bring up, then that's fine. It's not too worthy complaining about since it's interesting that these writers have taken it upon themselves to raise some provoking questions to their audiences. And if these audiences don't question but just regurgitate then "OH WELL" welcome to Uhmerica, DARN, can't limit their freedom of speech can you? Cry some more please, or carry on with the issue to a different level.

... Equating private citizens to a cancer on national television represents, in your mind, a provoking question?

... Americans are ignorant bastards, by and large, and inserting politically motivated material into popular entertainment for the dumb masses is Stalinist.

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[Titanic]

... Equating private citizens to a cancer on national television represents, in your mind, a provoking question?

... Americans are ignorant bastards, by and large, and inserting politically motivated material into popular entertainment for the dumb masses is Stalinist.

...

We've moved on from Hitler and the Nazis? When are the scheduled appearances for Mao and Pol Pot?

[BigBallinStalin]

If you're so taken aback by the idea that "morons" who watch these shows would suddenly then start questioning things that these shows bring up, then that's fine. It's not too worthy complaining about since it's interesting that these writers have taken it upon themselves to raise some provoking questions to their audiences. And if these audiences don't question but just regurgitate then "OH WELL" welcome to Uhmerica, DARN, can't limit their freedom of speech can you? Cry some more please, or carry on with the issue to a different level.

... Equating private citizens to a cancer on national television represents, in your mind, a provoking question?

As far as I'm concerned, the writers can write whatever they want on their shows as long as it's within their legal rights to do so.

... Americans are ignorant bastards, by and large, and inserting politically motivated material into popular entertainment for the dumb masses is Stalinist.

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No, that's just the result of freedom of speech usually marinated in propaganda.


Actually, I thought it would be a bit Stalinist if the popular entertainment industry was forbidden to insert any politically motivated material into their works except for whatever the state deems as acceptable, but that's not happening since more than one political view in popular entertainment is evident. According to Britannica.com:

... Stalin’s doctrine of the monolithic party emerged during the battle for power; he condemned the “rotten liberalism” of those who tolerated discussion on or dissent from party policies...

A stance against the allowance of politically motivated materials in popular entertainment can be seen as Stalinist.

You know, it seems that you, Nobunaga, have made Stalin proud by "[condeming] the “rotten liberalism” of those who tolerated discussion on or dissent from party policies...," but perhaps I am mistaken.


I'm in no way mad at the writers,' but I am let down by the many Americans (and the many others in the world) who fail to question what they encounter, the ones who fail to do any credible research to counter the assertions and claimed facts of others.

[Nobunaga]

You know, it seems that you, Nobunaga, have made Stalin proud by "[condeming] the “rotten liberalism” of those who tolerated discussion on or dissent from party policies...," but perhaps I am mistaken.

... Were I criticizing the ridicule of government policy in popular entertainment, that would be another matter entirely. I am not doing so and have never done so. This is not the case we are seeing now.

... The patterns developing are the promotion of policy, the use of common entertainment media to promote the desires and intentions of government, while attacking those who question that policy, even private citizens. As popular and as wealthy as these men (Limbaugh, etc..) may be, they are not officials of any kind with any degree of government responsibility.

... But then, Limbaugh's show is, when you boil it down, entertainment, and he assaults other popular media on a daily basis, promotes candidates and policies he favors...

... I stand down. I made the connection. Thanks for the thought provoking argument, Stalin.

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