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Re: Chimpanzee Business
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 9:39 am
by pimpdave
muy_thaiguy wrote:Depends on where and how the chimp was raised. If born and bred in captivity, especially to be a pet, then it should have been socialized (not trained, just to get use to other people outside of it's immediate home).
Do you know about chimpanzees at all?
Dogs and cats have been domesticated through centuries upon centuries of being purposefully bred to be that way (and yet, even with all of that work, some still attack humans)
To give an example: lions and tigers and chimpanzees and bears (oh my!) have not been domesticated for a good reason. Or rather, lions and tigers have been domesticated as house cats, chimpanzees have never been domesticated and bears have been domesticated as Brutus!

(okay, forget the one about bears)
The point is, the way an animal was raised isn't an ironclad predictor of behavior later in life, and if the animal can easily destroy you or others, it shouldn't be a pet AT ALL. Chimpanzees as an animal, are not good as pets, because as they grow up, their natural instincts develop, whether they were raised around humans or not.
Re: Chimpanzee Business
Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2009 10:13 am
by Snorri1234
pimpdave wrote:Chimpanzees as an animal, are not good as pets, because as they grow up, their natural instincts develop, whether they were raised around humans or not.
And that's even true for dogs but we can trick young dogs into thinking humans are their packmates so they won't attack them. (Incidentally you can't domesticate dogs which haven't grown up with human contact>) Chimps however are too smart for that so there is always a danger that they will rip out your face when the mood strikes them.
Re: Chimpanzee Business
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:04 am
by pimpdave
Re: Chimpanzee Business
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 1:40 pm
by Backglass
There is still a lot of coverage of this event here in New York as it happened just over the border in Connecticut.
The chimp wasn't provoked...the victim, an employee of the chimp owner, had just gotten out of her car when the chimp bolted out the front door and tackled her in the driveway. It literally went ape-shit on her and ATE her face off, also chewing off all her fingers leaving only one thumb. They did what they could in the short term, but you can't reconstruct what isn't there. The paramedics said it looked like she had stuck her hands and face into a meat-grinder and were stunned that she even lived. Both her eyes had to be removed later due to infection.
The truly sad thing is that the owners lawyer is trying to make this a workmans-comp case since she was an employee, which would severely limit any financial restitution. Her job didn't involve the pet chimp however (she worked for the owners towing company) so that might still get thrown out.
It's just an awful story all the way around.
Re: Chimpanzee Business
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:24 pm
by muy_thaiguy
Backglass wrote:There is still a lot of coverage of this event here in New York as it happened just over the border in Connecticut.
The chimp wasn't provoked...the victim, an employee of the chimp owner, had just gotten out of her car when the chimp bolted out the front door and tackled her in the driveway. It literally went ape-shit on her and ATE her face off, also chewing off all her fingers leaving only one thumb. They did what they could in the short term, but you can't reconstruct what isn't there. The paramedics said it looked like she had stuck her hands and face into a meat-grinder and were stunned that she even lived. Both her eyes had to be removed later due to infection.
The truly sad thing is that the owners lawyer is trying to make this a workmans-comp case since she was an employee, which would severely limit any financial restitution. Her job didn't involve the pet chimp however (she worked for the owners towing company) so that might still get thrown out.
It's just an awful story all the way around.
What company has a chimp involved with it? And why was it running loose?
Wait, I think with the second part, this poor lady who was mauled could probably win with that alone.
Re: Chimpanzee Business
Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:03 pm
by Juan_Bottom
The video isn't accessible. It violated youtube's terms somehow.