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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - Bonuses

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 3:53 pm
by cairnswk
Anything further?

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - Bonuses

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:09 pm
by oaktown
cairnswk wrote:EDIT// After checking Oaktown first came into comment on this map around page 9. Nothing about the colours in 6 pages. Can't be a problem. :P

I believe that my initial concern with the colors was that I couldn't tell the region borders from the territory borders (or was that another map?). That problem was solved. As for whether or not I can match the regions with the colors... well, not exactly, but I can live with it as is. With ten regions and a soft color scheme, I don't think you're going to find ten colors that I can tell apart. The ideal solutions for me would be either adding either region names to the map or the creation of a small map, but even without that I will be able to work things out based on my limited knowledge of the region (I assume the Syria region is the one that includes the Syria territory, Italian probably includes Italian, etc.) and a little help from BoB.

I'm looking over the gameplay stuff, and I'm not seeing anything obviously in need of fixing. Giving a few more pixels to the Yerevan-Bitlies border (and other border in that area) would still be a good thing.

Is the Edirne/Constantinople arrow necessary?

How are we on bonuses?? Any other concerns from the Foundry?

And visually I agree with that bit about the star not suggesting ports... maybe instead of making it port-like, you came up with something entirely British looking, since they are British ports? Some kind of British naval insignia? Crown?

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - Bonuses

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 10:26 am
by cairnswk
oaktown wrote:
cairnswk wrote:....
Is the Edirne/Constantinople arrow necessary?

How are we on bonuses?? Any other concerns from the Foundry?

And visually I agree with that bit about the star not suggesting ports... maybe instead of making it port-like, you came up with something entirely British looking, since they are British ports? Some kind of British naval insignia? Crown?


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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15 w/ armies

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:08 pm
by cairnswk
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
    <title>WWI - Ottoman Empire</title>
    <smallwidth>630</smallwidth>
    <smallheight>600</smallheight>
    <largewidth>750</largewidth>
    <largeheight>711</largeheight>
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      <name>O. Europe</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Edirne</territory>
         <territory>Gelibolu</territory>
      </components>
    <required>2</required>
</continent>
         <!---->
<continent>
      <name>O. Anatolia</name>
      <bonus>6</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Constantinople</territory>
         <territory>Ankara</territory>
         <territory>Bursa</territory>
         <territory>Iznir</territory>
         <territory>Konya-Antep</territory>
         <territory>Adana</territory>
         <territory>Trabzon</territory>
       </components>
    <required>7</required>
  </continent>
         <!---->
<continent>
      <name>O. Armenia</name>
      <bonus>5</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Sivas</territory>
         <territory>Erzurum</territory>
         <territory>Bitlis</territory>
         <territory>Diyarbakir</territory>
         <territory>Van</territory>
      </components>
    <required>5</required>
  </continent>
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      <name>O. Syria</name>
      <bonus>5</bonus>
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         <territory>Syria</territory>
         <territory>Aleppo</territory>
         <territory>Dayr Az-Zor</territory>
         <territory>Jerusalem</territory>
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    <required>5</required>
  </continent>
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      <name>O. Mesopotamia</name>
      <bonus>4</bonus>
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         <territory>Bahgdad</territory>
         <territory>Basra</territory>
         <territory>V. Al-Hasha</territory>
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  </continent>
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      <bonus>4</bonus>
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         <territory>Terek</territory>
         <territory>Kutais-Batum</territory>
         <territory>Tbilisi</territory>
         <territory>Kars</territory>
         <territory>Yerevan</territory>
         <territory>Elizavetpol-Baku</territory>
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</continent>
         <!---->
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      <name>British Colonies</name>
      <bonus>7</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Cyprus</territory>
         <territory>Alexandria</territory>
         <territory>British Egypt</territory>
         <territory>Akbah</territory>
         <territory>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</territory>
         <territory>British Kuwait</territory>
         <territory>British Somaliland</territory>
         <territory>British Aden</territory>
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    <required>8</required>
</continent>
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      <name>Hussein of Mecca</name>
      <bonus>2</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Medina</territory>
         <territory>Mecca</territory>
         <territory>Yemen</territory>
      </components>
    <required>3</required>
</continent>
         <!---->
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      <name>Italian Colony</name>
      <bonus>1</bonus>
      <components>
         <territory>Italian Abyssinia</territory>
      </components>
    <required>1</required>
</continent>
         <!---->
<continent>
      <name>French Colony</name>
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      <components>
         <territory>French Somaliland</territory>
      </components>
    <required>1</required>
</continent>
         <!---->
<!-- End of continents -->


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      <borders>
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      </coordinates>
         <neutral>3</neutral>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
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      <borders>
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</territory>
      <!---->
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      <borders>
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</territory>
      <!---->
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      <borders>
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         <border>Bitlis</border>
         <border>Erzurum</border>
         <border>Kars</border>
         <border>Tbilisi</border>
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         <smally>156</smally>
         <largex>596</largex>
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      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Elizavetpol-Baku</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Yerevan</border>
         <border>Tbilisi</border>
         <border>Terek</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
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         <smally>137</smally>
         <largex>636</largex>
         <largey>160</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Cyprus</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Alexandria</border>
         <border>Akbah</border>
         <border>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</border>
         <border>British Kuwait</border>
         <border>British Aden</border>
         <border>British Somaliland</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>310</smallx>
         <smally>243</smally>
         <largex>370</largex>
         <largey>285</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Alexandria</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Cyprus</border>
         <border>Akbah</border>
         <border>British Egypt</border>
         <border>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</border>
         <border>British Kuwait</border>
         <border>British Aden</border>
         <border>British Somaliland</border>
         <border>Gelibolu</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>204</smallx>
         <smally>288</smally>
         <largex>244</largex>
         <largey>339</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>British Egypt</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Alexandria</border>
         <border>Akbah</border>
         <border>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>222</smallx>
         <smally>353</smally>
         <largex>265</largex>
         <largey>416</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Akbah</name>
      <borders>
         <border>British Egypt</border>
         <border>Alexandria</border>
         <border>Cyprus</border>
         <border>British Kuwait</border>
         <border>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</border>
         <border>British Aden</border>
         <border>British Somaliland</border>
         <border>Jerusalem</border>
         <border>Medina</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>301</smallx>
         <smally>298</smally>
         <largex>359</largex>
         <largey>351</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>British Kuwait</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Basra</border>
         <border>V. Al-Hasha</border>
         <border>Cyprus</border>
         <border>Alexandria</border>
         <border>Akbah</border>
         <border>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</border>
         <border>British Aden</border>
         <border>British Somaliland</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>546</smallx>
         <smally>325</smally>
         <largex>651</largex>
         <largey>384</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Italian Abyssinia</border>
         <border>British Egypt</border>
         <border>Alexandria</border>
         <border>Cyprus</border>
         <border>Akbah</border>
         <border>British Kuwait</border>
         <border>British Aden</border>
         <border>British Somaliland</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>226</smallx>
         <smally>495</smally>
         <largex>270</largex>
         <largey>585</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>British Aden</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Yemen</border>
         <border>British Somaliland</border>
         <border>Cyprus</border>
         <border>Alexandria</border>
         <border>Akbah</border>
         <border>British Kuwait</border>
         <border>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>557</smallx>
         <smally>545</smally>
         <largex>664</largex>
         <largey>645</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>British Somaliland</name>
      <borders>
         <border>French Somaliland</border>
         <border>British Aden</border>
         <border>Cyprus</border>
         <border>Alexandria</border>
         <border>Akbah</border>
         <border>British Kuwait</border>
         <border>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>532</smallx>
         <smally>605</smally>
         <largex>634</largex>
         <largey>716</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Medina</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Akbah</border>
         <border>Jerusalem</border>
         <border>Mecca</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>372</smallx>
         <smally>381</smally>
         <largex>444</largex>
         <largey>449</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Mecca</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Medina</border>
         <border>Yemen</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>436</smallx>
         <smally>465</smally>
         <largex>520</largex>
         <largey>549</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Yemen</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Mecca</border>
         <border>British Aden</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>480</smallx>
         <smally>523</smally>
         <largex>572</largex>
         <largey>619</largey>
      </coordinates>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>Italian Abyssinia</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Anglo-Egyptian Sudan</border>
         <border>French Somaliland</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>357</smallx>
         <smally>507</smally>
         <largex>426</largex>
         <largey>600</largey>
      </coordinates>
     <neutral>3</neutral>
</territory>
      <!---->
<territory>
      <name>French Somaliland</name>
      <borders>
         <border>Italian Abyssinia</border>
         <border>British Somaliland</border>
      </borders>
      <coordinates>
         <smallx>437</smallx>
         <smally>584</smally>
         <largex>520</largex>
         <largey>690</largey>
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     <neutral>3</neutral>
</territory>
      <!---->
</map>



http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... n_V15S.jpg

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http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/_WWI_Ottoman_Empire.xml

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:46 pm
by Incandenza
Couple things:

on the small map, the army looks a pixel too high in british kuwait.

Also, I'm wondering if perhaps there isn't a more elegant solution to having the "port" icon so far away from the name and army circle for anglo-egyptian sudan. Does the port really need to be there in the first place? That area's already pretty lousy with ports.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:00 pm
by cairnswk
Incandenza wrote:Couple things:

on the small map, the army looks a pixel too high in british kuwait.

Also, I'm wondering if perhaps there isn't a more elegant solution to having the "port" icon so far away from the name and army circle for anglo-egyptian sudan. Does the port really need to be there in the first place? That area's already pretty lousy with ports.

yes the pixel is 1 too high.
i'd like to leave the tert name where it is as it fills that real estate.
Port Sudan was important to the British Government delegates in Khartoum during the period, as well as being an arrival/destination point for T E Lawrence reporting from Jiddah. I would imagine it would also be a destination for shipping between Alexandria and Port Aden, so i'd like to leave it there.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:03 pm
by ZeakCytho
The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:21 pm
by cairnswk
ZeakCytho wrote:The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.

Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:13 pm
by ZeakCytho
cairnswk wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.

Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5


Are you sure Akbah is okay on the large? It looks so much smaller than the others...

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:35 pm
by cairnswk
ZeakCytho wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.

Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5


Are you sure Akbah is okay on the large? It looks so much smaller than the others...

Yes, it is 18px the same as all the others....and i re-checked for you. ;)

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 9:43 pm
by ZeakCytho
cairnswk wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
ZeakCytho wrote:The Akbah port symbol looks significantly smaller than all the other port symbols on the large. The Anglo-Egyptian Sudan one looks too small on the small.

Akbah was OK. It was Port Sudan that was smaller and missing it's drop shadow. Fixed. Please F5


Are you sure Akbah is okay on the large? It looks so much smaller than the others...

Yes, it is 18px the same as all the others....and i re-checked for you. ;)


Must be some kind of illusion...or I'm going crazy... :?

Oh well, nice job on the crowns. I much prefer them to the stars.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2008 5:03 am
by yeti_c
Weirdly - I think the Stars were nicer than the crown...

C.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15 w/ armies

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 12:56 pm
by cairnswk
yeti_c wrote:Weirdly - I think the Stars were nicer than the crown...

C.


Mmmmm, you are changing you're mind lately. ;) Crowns are a lot nicer now IMHO.

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http://h1.ripway.com/cairnswk/_WWI_Ottoman_Empire.xml

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:51 pm
by brandoncfi
yeti_c wrote:Weirdly - I think the Stars were nicer than the crown...

C.

I would have to agree...but of course you can't make everyone happy

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15 w/ armies

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 2:58 pm
by cairnswk


Forza AZ wrote:XML is OK now.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2008 10:19 pm
by oaktown
Since there doesn't seem to be any outstanding gameplay concerns being discussed, and mine have all been addressed, I guess there's nothing left for me to do here.

Image

British Kuwait is really busy - you can't even see the land under there anymore. Maybe pull the army circle off the land entirely and just float it over the territory name?

I like the crowns, but the color doesn't seem to fit the map's overall palette. (Says the colorblind gameplay guy!)

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:32 am
by cairnswk
oaktown wrote:Since there doesn't seem to be any outstanding gameplay concerns being discussed, and mine have all been addressed, I guess there's nothing left for me to do here.

Image

British Kuwait is really busy - you can't even see the land under there anymore. Maybe pull the army circle off the land entirely and just float it over the territory name?

I like the crowns, but the color doesn't seem to fit the map's overall palette. (Says the colorblind gameplay guy!)

oak i don't understand how you must cope with this challenge, but.... :)

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:56 pm
by cairnswk
oaktown wrote:...
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Thanks for the stamp :)

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I] V15 w/ armies

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2008 12:58 pm
by cairnswk
Latest Version 15

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http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s282 ... n_V15L.jpg

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Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I,Gp] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 7:19 am
by gimil
Looking fine cairns. Ill give it another day or two to see if anyone else has any other graphical issues :)

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I,Gp] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2008 2:27 pm
by cairnswk
gimil wrote:Looking fine cairns. Ill give it another day or two to see if anyone else has any other graphical issues :)

Mmmmmmm :)

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I,Gp] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:32 am
by Qwert
hmm,why you change your previious Stars and put crown? Stars look much better then these crowns.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I,Gp] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 6:19 am
by cairnswk
qwert wrote:hmm,why you change your previious Stars and put crown? Stars look much better then these crowns.

Because after putting crowns, i think they look better now.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I,Gp] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 10:35 am
by The Neon Peon
If we are keeping the crowns, could you change the constrast between the colors of the crowns slightly to make it a little more? The orange-yellow blends in with the red.

Also, they seem rather jagged round the edges. Possibly smooth them out a little?

Two other points, all the lines between the territories in Mesopotamia are different. The line between Bitlis and Van does not extend far enough by 1 or two pixels.

Re: WWI: OTTOMAN EMPIRE [I,Gp] V15(p15) - W/ Armies

Posted: Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:28 pm
by cairnswk
The Neon Peon wrote:If we are keeping the crowns, could you change the constrast between the colors of the crowns slightly to make it a little more? The orange-yellow blends in with the red.
Contrast given at 36.

Also, they seem rather jagged round the edges. Possibly smooth them out a little?
They look fine to me.

Two other points, all the lines between the territories in Mesopotamia are different. The line between Bitlis and Van does not extend far enough by 1 or two pixels.

Mesopotamia lines are fine, they are consistent and all the same.
The pixelation issue resolved - caused by using more blur rather than gaussian blur. :)