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unriggable wrote:http://www.skeptictank.org/gaygene.htm
bradleybadly wrote:Unless you can prove that there is some type of genetic reason for homosexuality then you can't say that it is natural. It is an unnatural behavior. You don't have to be a Christian to support traditional marriage of a man and woman marrying.
Of course if you don't support homosexuals getting married to each other then you get labeled as a bigot. It's one of the tricks of the left. They try to equate the civil rights struggle in America with giving people of the same sex the right to marry. Blacks didn't choose to be black, they were born that way. Homosexuals choose their behavior. Before you bleeding heart idiots start asking me "did you choose to be heterosexual the answer is 'no' because being attracted to the opposite sex is natural.
Slavery used to be legal but that never made it legitimate. Making homosexual marriage legal doesn't make it right either. You're just trying to make something that is unnatural look natural. Then you probably go pat yourselves on the back thinking that you're so moral.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
bradleybadly wrote:unriggable wrote:http://www.skeptictank.org/gaygene.htm
I'm sorry, but I've already proven that you're a high school idiot who just posts random things that you want to believe in. If you had even an ounce of credibility you would do more research than just quoting something without considering any other point of view.
Homosexuals are getting tired of saying they were born that way
Grow up
bradleybadly wrote:Unless you can prove that there is some type of genetic reason for homosexuality then you can't say that it is natural. It is an unnatural behavior.
You don't have to be a Christian to support traditional marriage of a man and woman marrying.
Of course if you don't support homosexuals getting married to each other then you get labeled as a bigot.
It's one of the tricks of the left.
They try to equate the civil rights struggle in America with giving people of the same sex the right to marry. Blacks didn't choose to be black, they were born that way. Homosexuals choose their behavior.
Slavery used to be legal but that never made it legitimate. Making homosexual marriage legal doesn't make it right either. You're just trying to make something that is unnatural look natural. Then you probably go pat yourselves on the back thinking that you're so moral.
Heh, y'see the problem is that we actually can. Sorry to break it to you, but homosexuality is not 'chosen' behaivour, it's a psychological predisposition.bradleybadly wrote:Unless you can prove that there is some type of genetic reason for homosexuality then you can't say that it is natural.
Are you aware that the ancient Romans regarded slavery as 'natural'? Go check the institutes of Gaius and Justinian if you don't believe me... right there in their legal codes it is, "Natural Law says - Slavery Good".bradleybadly wrote:being attracted to the opposite sex is natural.
Slavery used to be legal but that never made it legitimate. You're just trying to make something that is unnatural look natural.
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Garth wrote:Yeah, I bet he's totally studly and buff.
Napoleon Ier wrote:Fieryo wrote:Napoleon Ier wrote: Either this advantage has a utility proening from a tangible reality (one or several children) from which society benefits, as is the case for normal couples, and the advanage has reason to exist, or there is none, and the advantage hould not be granted.
So are you saying marriage is only allowed for people who plan on having children?
It is also question of public recognition of a couple or family. Besides, the fact is also that these couples could have children, whereas gays cannot.
I do however for there to be a proper marriage, the possibility of children must be envisaged, for me, for both moral and religious reasons, this is essential.
qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.
Neoteny wrote:Unless you can prove that there is some type of genetic reason for heterosexuality then you can't say that it is natural. All you rightie idiots keep saying that "unnatural" is bad. Taking antibiotics when you are sick is unnatural, but I'm sure you don't want to give those up. Air conditioning is unnatural, but most people enjoy that. Nuclear power is unnatural, but conservatives love it. I have serious doubts that you can even prove what unnatural really means in the context of genetics, so any attempt to "prove" anything to you might be useless.
And your attempt to defend yourself from being called a bigot is pointless. You are attempting to justify giving a segment of the human population fewer rights than another. Can you imagine if I shepherded a bill through Congress that said that Christians couldn't marry? Me saying that Christians choose to be Christians wouldn't stop all hell from breaking loose. You aren't born a Christian (well, depending on your sect), and you must make that choice. It would be wrong, and I would (rightfully) be labeled a bigot. Regardless of if they can choose to be gay or if they are genetificationically gay, denying them a civil right would mark you as a bigot.
Neoteny wrote:Damn... too many of us responding to the same post... you might think that implies something very wrong with what was said. Or that we bleeding hearts are all complicit in not knowing what the hell we're talking about.
Gangbang, anyone?
Snorri1234 wrote:Neoteny wrote:Unless you can prove that there is some type of genetic reason for heterosexuality then you can't say that it is natural. All you rightie idiots keep saying that "unnatural" is bad. Taking antibiotics when you are sick is unnatural, but I'm sure you don't want to give those up. Air conditioning is unnatural, but most people enjoy that. Nuclear power is unnatural, but conservatives love it. I have serious doubts that you can even prove what unnatural really means in the context of genetics, so any attempt to "prove" anything to you might be useless.
And your attempt to defend yourself from being called a bigot is pointless. You are attempting to justify giving a segment of the human population fewer rights than another. Can you imagine if I shepherded a bill through Congress that said that Christians couldn't marry? Me saying that Christians choose to be Christians wouldn't stop all hell from breaking loose. You aren't born a Christian (well, depending on your sect), and you must make that choice. It would be wrong, and I would (rightfully) be labeled a bigot. Regardless of if they can choose to be gay or if they are genetificationically gay, denying them a civil right would mark you as a bigot.
Awesome.
qwert wrote:Can i ask you something?What is porpose for you to open these Political topic in ConquerClub? Why you mix politic with Risk? Why you not open topic like HOT AND SEXY,or something like that.
Guiscard wrote:Snorri1234 wrote:Neoteny wrote:Unless you can prove that there is some type of genetic reason for heterosexuality then you can't say that it is natural. All you rightie idiots keep saying that "unnatural" is bad. Taking antibiotics when you are sick is unnatural, but I'm sure you don't want to give those up. Air conditioning is unnatural, but most people enjoy that. Nuclear power is unnatural, but conservatives love it. I have serious doubts that you can even prove what unnatural really means in the context of genetics, so any attempt to "prove" anything to you might be useless.
And your attempt to defend yourself from being called a bigot is pointless. You are attempting to justify giving a segment of the human population fewer rights than another. Can you imagine if I shepherded a bill through Congress that said that Christians couldn't marry? Me saying that Christians choose to be Christians wouldn't stop all hell from breaking loose. You aren't born a Christian (well, depending on your sect), and you must make that choice. It would be wrong, and I would (rightfully) be labeled a bigot. Regardless of if they can choose to be gay or if they are genetificationically gay, denying them a civil right would mark you as a bigot.
Awesome.
Awesome response.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Gee, thanks, I guess I'll just take my "shitty" debate skills elsewhere.unriggable wrote:Why are all of the dudes against gay marriage shitty debaters?
Snorri1234 wrote:muy_thaiguy wrote:Gee, thanks, I guess I'll just take my "shitty" debate skills elsewhere.unriggable wrote:Why are all of the dudes against gay marriage shitty debaters?
Muy, you're the best debater on your side actually.
Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
muy_thaiguy wrote:"Give a man a fish, he eats for a day (Socialism), teach a man to fish, he eats for life." Simple really, just saying that people need to learn to rely on themselves and not others to do things, which shows responsibility and maturity.
muy_thaiguy wrote:Who ever said the government should teach everyone to do everything? I know I didn't...And that phrase, as I guess I have to put it, says that when your boss or parent teaches you something, you'll be able to take care of yourself instead of relying on handouts.
Jamie wrote:Virtually everyone posting here is for allowing gay marriage, but yet the poll speaks differently. Sounds pretty two faced to me, when if able to be identified you take the side that draws the least criticism, but when voting anonymously, you say the opposite. Is everyone who voted against gay marriage not posting or something, or am I missing something?
got tonkaed wrote:honestly although i disagree with them, i could understand why people who would not want gay marriage to be allowed wouldnt post. Its certainly one thing to have a belief or at least have a feeling about something. Its another thing entirely to post an argument about something, against people who might deride you for your stance.
ritz627 wrote:got tonkaed wrote:honestly although i disagree with them, i could understand why people who would not want gay marriage to be allowed wouldnt post. Its certainly one thing to have a belief or at least have a feeling about something. Its another thing entirely to post an argument about something, against people who might deride you for your stance.
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Napoleon Ier wrote:You people need to grow up to be honest.
