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Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:17 pm
by Serbia
Army of GOD wrote:Joodoo wrote:I don't see a problem with the current icon.
Can you at least admit that the red/blue combo is really annoying?
It legitimately irks me.
Leave the question marks is my vote.
As for the blue for freemium/red for premium debate - look closely at the ranks. Blue is used with the silver freemiums, red is used with the gold premiums. Quite simple, really.
I just finished reading this thread. One, I'd like to commend Woody for a great analysis. Two, I have QH on foe, which means I won't launch into a flame fest that will get me banned. Third, plagiarism. And of course, fourth, leaving it as is was first invented at McGill University in 1492, when Chris Columbus sailed the ocean blue.
tl;dr - leave the question mark, and spend your creative energies on something more worthwhile, such as figuring out a way to provide me with more vodka through the interwebs.
EDIT - also, can we get this un-stickied? seems rather unnecessary to me to be keeping this up at the top, except for the self-importance of certain members, who have every right to feel self-important in their own minds, I might add. Just prefer to to force their self-importance on the rest of us. (the move to un-sticky is purely a suggestion and not meant to cause strife, only good-natured debate)
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2010 7:10 am
by notyou2
Superb analysis Serb. Spot on.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:02 am
by JoshyBoy
This is one dead horse which we should not be flogging.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 9:53 am
by BigBallinStalin
JoshyBoy wrote:This is one dead horse which we should not be flogging.
Even more suberb analysis, JoshyBoy.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:20 pm
by jefjef
Serbia wrote:EDIT - also, can we get this un-stickied? seems rather unnecessary to me to be keeping this up at the top, except for the self-importance of certain members, who have every right to feel self-important in their own minds, I might add. Just prefer to to force their self-importance on the rest of us. (the move to un-sticky is purely a suggestion and not meant to cause strife, only good-natured debate)
Really? A mod stickied it due to the support it had received. At the moment the votes for change on this skewed poll exceed the nay sayers.
But thank you all the same for your thoughts.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:02 pm
by Serbia
jefjef wrote:Serbia wrote:EDIT - also, can we get this un-stickied? seems rather unnecessary to me to be keeping this up at the top, except for the self-importance of certain members, who have every right to feel self-important in their own minds, I might add. Just prefer to to force their self-importance on the rest of us. (the move to un-sticky is purely a suggestion and not meant to cause strife, only good-natured debate)
Really? A mod stickied it due to the support it had received. At the moment the votes for change on this skewed poll exceed the nay sayers.
But thank you all the same for your thoughts.
YAY! ROLL EYE SMILEY!
37 votes is huge. Getting 19 of 37 = LANDSLIDE1
Oh and by the way, Really! A mod unstickied it due to the lack of support it's currently receiving. At the moment the skewed poll itself proves there is a lack of interest both from naysayers and YAY!sayers.
Now do you have anything to actually add to the debate on whether or not we need to change the icon for new recruits (to which I say no, it's an unnecessary change) or are you preferring to give a pointless response with a smiley (which proves that you're not flaming or baiting)?
Really, my opinion says this can be sent to the "rejected" file. But I won't ask for that just yet, because obviously the mods around these parts give me everything I ask for, and I don't want to see this moved TOO prematurely.
Thanks, JefJef!
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 3:20 pm
by Qwert
if mods change poll, then they change wrong;
Its need to be two option
A-yes
B-now
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First big mistake its from QH side,but next big mistake its from MOds,who merge two topic-one from QH,and other from DOc brawn(i belive that these is name).
Two totaly diferent topic-QH had hes topic with all these sugestions, and other topic have situation,where topic creator,have these two option -yes or No.
Its better for everybody that you lock these topic and open one neutral topic who will start with these two option, and these will be fair to everybody.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 4:29 am
by JoshyBoy
jefjef wrote:Serbia wrote:EDIT - also, can we get this un-stickied? seems rather unnecessary to me to be keeping this up at the top, except for the self-importance of certain members, who have every right to feel self-important in their own minds, I might add. Just prefer to to force their self-importance on the rest of us. (the move to un-sticky is purely a suggestion and not meant to cause strife, only good-natured debate)
Really? A mod stickied it due to the support it had received. At the moment the votes for change on this skewed poll exceed the nay sayers.
But thank you all the same for your thoughts.
Yes, I believe it was myself who stickied it as it seemed to be one of the major talking points in Suggestions at the time.
As of now, the votes are 50/50. 50% say keep it as it is, and the other 50% say change it. Even if this was a "Yes" or "No" poll, I would still want to see about a two-thirds majority in favour or against. Unfortunately withing the 50% of voters who want it changed, there is no harmony as to what it should be changed to, with the four suggestions breaking up the 50% into much smaller percentages. Everyone has their own preferences and ideas as to what it should be.
Serbia wrote:YAY! ROLL EYE SMILEY!
37 votes is huge. Getting 19 of 37 = LANDSLIDE1
Oh and by the way, Really! A mod unstickied it due to the lack of support it's currently receiving. At the moment the skewed poll itself proves there is a lack of interest both from naysayers and YAY!sayers.
Now do you have anything to actually add to the debate on whether or not we need to change the icon for new recruits (to which I say no, it's an unnecessary change) or are you preferring to give a pointless response with a smiley (which proves that you're not flaming or baiting)?
Really, my opinion says this can be sent to the "rejected" file. But I won't ask for that just yet, because obviously the mods around these parts give me everything I ask for, and I don't want to see this moved TOO prematurely.
Thanks, JefJef!
It's now at 21 votes against change = 51%.
No, a mod did not unsticky it for the reason that this topic is receiving a lack of support. A certain mod unsticked it because the topic is
not being moved towards a solution and, as I said before, it is like flogging a dead horse.
Lastly, Serbia and jefjef, play nicely.
qwert wrote:if mods change poll, then they change wrong;
Its need to be two option
A-yes
B-now
------------------
First big mistake its from QH side,but next big mistake its from MOds,who merge two topic-one from QH,and other from DOc brawn(i belive that these is name).
Two totaly diferent topic-QH had hes topic with all these sugestions, and other topic have situation,where topic creator,have these two option -yes or No.
Its better for everybody that you lock these topic and open one neutral topic who will start with these two option, and these will be fair to everybody.
As already stated, a "Yes" and "No" poll would result in what we have just now, a "stalemate". A 50/50 split is just not good enough.
This topic will not be getting locked (unless Serbia and jefjef want to turn it up a notch
), and there would be little or no point in starting up a new thread.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 12:27 am
by Army of GOD
Can someone who voted for not changing it please explain their reasoning? Can we at least change the colors?
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 9:36 am
by notyou2
Fabtastic analysis AoG. How DO you do it?
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 10:37 am
by Serbia
Army of GOD wrote:Can someone who voted for not changing it please explain their reasoning? Can we at least change the colors?
Serbia wrote:Leave the question marks is my vote.
As for the blue for freemium/red for premium debate - look closely at the ranks. Blue is used with the silver freemiums, red is used with the gold premiums. Quite simple, really.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:16 am
by Woodruff
Army of GOD wrote:Can someone who voted for not changing it please explain their reasoning? Can we at least change the colors?
I voted against changing it because it's a useless alteration. It contributes literally nothing to the site. I don't give a crap about the colors, but you'll notice that isn't an option so obviously it won't get any votes.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Sun Aug 22, 2010 11:31 am
by Army of GOD
Serbia wrote:Army of GOD wrote:Can someone who voted for not changing it please explain their reasoning? Can we at least change the colors?
Serbia wrote:Leave the question marks is my vote.
As for the blue for freemium/red for premium debate - look closely at the ranks. Blue is used with the silver freemiums, red is used with the gold premiums. Quite simple, really.
They're only used for the first class ranks...the main color is gold/silver in all of them though...
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 12:26 am
by greenoaks
until a new recruit has played a few games there is a question mark over his ability
if only there was a symbol CC could use to represent that
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Mon Aug 23, 2010 4:58 am
by Qwert
by greenoaks on Mon Aug 23, 2010 7:26 am
until a new recruit has played a few games there is a question mark over his ability
if only there was a symbol CC could use to represent that
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maybe "NR" ?
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2010 8:22 am
by natty dread
WOOOOSH
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:43 am
by TheSaxlad
You Know rather than all this why cant we make the ? gold and silver?
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:25 am
by stahrgazer
I voted don't change. The question mark stands out as something to be shed quickly; dogtags or the other options would be "too cool" to want to shed that quickly.
Changing colors wasn't an option, but I could see using silver and gold rather than red and blue; consistent with colors for cook hats.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:11 am
by Army of GOD
Ok, Queen, I think you should change the poll again.
This time:
Leave as is
Change colors
Change symbol
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 11:32 am
by Serbia
Army of GOD wrote:Ok, Queen, I think you should change the poll again.
This time:
Leave as is
Change colors
Change symbol
The user to whom you are referring no longer posts in this discussion. My sympathies to you.
Colors don't need changing, and red/blue are used for Colonel, and (one could successfully argue) for Conqueror.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 5:23 pm
by Army of GOD
Serbia wrote:Army of GOD wrote:Ok, Queen, I think you should change the poll again.
This time:
Leave as is
Change colors
Change symbol
The user to whom you are referring no longer posts in this discussion. My sympathies to you.
Colors don't need changing, and red/blue are used for Colonel, and (one could successfully argue) for Conqueror.
That doesn't change the fact that silver and gold are the primary color in every rank (but Conqueror). There is ONLY red/blue in the ?s.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 7:39 pm
by Doc_Brown
Army of GOD wrote:Ok, Queen, I think you should change the poll again.
This time:
Leave as is
Change colors
Change symbol
That's actually exactly the poll I put up a little while back. We ended up with something like:
40% - don't change it.
12% - change the colors.
48% - change the symbol.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 8:12 pm
by Queen_Herpes
Army of GOD wrote:Ok, Queen, I think you should change the poll again.
This time:
Leave as is
Change colors
Change symbol
I'd be happy to change the poll; however, the suggestion was hijacked from underneath me by the moderators. I asked that they send me a PM, instead they changed the poll and ignored my initial interest in the suggestion.
I'd hate to change the poll, then have the moderators change it again before voting is complete.
At this point, there is more support for change than there is support for keeping the ?. However, that isn't what my suggestion was about.
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:25 pm
by Woodruff
Queen_Herpes wrote:Army of GOD wrote:Ok, Queen, I think you should change the poll again.
This time:
Leave as is
Change colors
Change symbol
I'd be happy to change the poll; however, the suggestion was hijacked from underneath me by the moderators. I asked that they send me a PM, instead they changed the poll and ignored my initial interest in the suggestion.
I'd hate to change the poll, then have the moderators change it again before voting is complete.
At this point, there is more support for change than there is support for keeping the ?. However, that isn't what my suggestion was about.
Oh brother...
Re: Replace ? icon with "Basic Training" icon [Poll Reset]
Posted: Thu Aug 26, 2010 11:27 am
by JoshyBoy
The only change I can see ever for this would be to change the colours from blue and red to silver and gold. As I said before, this seems like flogging a dead horse, and I can see this being rejected soon. I will try and speak to a few admin and maybe one or two of the Tech Team to see how easy it would be just to change the colour. It would be pretty easy I should think.
