WWI EUROPE 1914[ABANDONED]

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 3:36 pm

IMHO, a map of europe would look silly without all the borders drawn in.

Teya · Post by **Teya** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:07 pm

I dont like the borders drawn in. I dont think they are needed.
Also, the german empire is still too dark. And western europe is too bright. It looks a bit out of place. Maybe just tone it down a bit.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:10 pm

Does greece connect to the balkans? because it shouldnt, and they should be worth 3 not 2.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:10 pm

Teya wrote
I dont like the borders drawn in. I dont think they are needed.
Also, the german empire is still too dark. And western europe is too bright. It looks a bit out of place. Maybe just tone it down a bit.

Now you will tell people dont know to vote.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:12 pm

yes kyle dont you see.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:14 pm

qwert wrote:yes kyle dont you see.

Neutral with borders its best solution.

boberz · Post by **boberz** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:20 pm

perhaps this has been mentioned and i am sorry if it has but the legend looks a bit messy. I think you should remove the bit that tells people that it is a legend that is not needed. Also could the title be increased in size.

wcaclimbing · Post by **wcaclimbing** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:20 pm

I dont agree. you should take out the borders within the neutral countries, or else it is way too confusing

KEYOGI · Post by **KEYOGI** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:26 pm

qwert wrote:Teya wrote
I dont like the borders drawn in. I dont think they are needed.
Also, the german empire is still too dark. And western europe is too bright. It looks a bit out of place. Maybe just tone it down a bit.

Now you will tell people dont know to vote.

What are you talking about qwert? Teya suggested altering the shades of the German Empire and Western Europe. That has nothing to do with votes!

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sat Dec 30, 2006 4:37 pm

If you dont see diference against neutral terittory and others country then i can help you.
You got circle, names and others colors and you dont see diference ?!

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 6:30 pm

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY!!!!!

Nous-irons · Post by **Nous-irons** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 7:56 pm

South and Central France is too much of a chokepoint. I don't want to be a party pooper, Germany needs to look bigger and Russia a bit smaller. Yes, Russia was and still is huge, but a lot its territories are simply massive and I think you can cut off the eastern borders a bit - perhaps a representation that can cut out more of the north and show more of the central area?

In order for Germany to attack England it has to go through France. While this is quite so in order to launch a land attack, what happened to the naval race between England and Germany? How in the world is the Battle of Jutland and U-boat warfare supposed to occur?

I propose: connect Corsica to England (a stretch, but the chokepoint should be loosened a bit), or Italy to Greece (then you can boost the bonus for the Balkans). This makes sense especially if the Allies are to make naval landings in the Ottoman Empire.

Reorganise France perhaps into North, South and East France - the Southern France border will include the Alsace-Lorraine region. That way both South and East France border Corsica, while North and East France have sea access to England (or perhaps North France to Germany), then England to Germany.

If you can, find a way to add more territories to Germany (especially since it isn't terribly hard to hold).

I have a problem with including Italy since Italy didn't join the Allies until 1915. If you make Italy its own continent, perhaps it can be the two-army bonus continent while you increase the bonus of the Balkans, meanwhile compensating for the new borders of Western Europe. (And thus it can keep the bonuses).

Sargentgeneral · Post by **Sargentgeneral** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:04 pm

i agree with kyle, the balkans should be 3 not 2.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Sun Dec 31, 2006 8:17 pm

If you want to realy help me, lok in page 4 and see how hapysandfyl help me.
He show me have to improve map and what i can put in map.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:49 am

cam on guys show visual what to work in my map,that better way for sugestion.

RuS · Post by **RuS** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:26 am

Still i think you shouldn't make Belgium a neutral country, it just isn't right. You're erasing 4 of the most important years in Belgian independancy.
Don't forget by the way, Belgium was the reason why Great-Britain got involved (Germany violated the non-troops-movement aggreement).
I suggest you should put it with Western Europe...

And another thing, the impassible border between north-italy and austria isn't needed cause its only half the border.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 9:47 am

Rus-reply
i know these but i remove becouse its too small in map, and i will problems with Text to put in country.
Thanks for umpasabile borders i will erase these .

Marvaddin · Post by **Marvaddin** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 11:46 am

I have little time now and I didnt read all the thread, but I would look for:
1) Another way to split France.
2) Having just one type of unpassable border (and without the 3D effect, because this way it uses more room and some regions are already crowded).
3) Add one attack route between Italy and possibly Greece, because the west looks like easy to hold...

I will comment more later, friend.

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:37 pm

i remove umpasabile borders Nort italy -austria

RuS · Post by **RuS** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:58 pm

Marvaddin wrote:1) Another way to split France.

Maybe you could split it in 2 parts real france and then Flandres Fields, quitte known around the world i guess... you can add the region around lille and verdun as well to this area...

(And I'll be happy as wel cause flandres is a part of belgium

)

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 1:56 pm

Well lets see I can comment on, as I've got some time.

Make all the names as close as you can in size, and boldness. That will help the overall look of the map. If at all possible, look into even making them slightly bigger perhaps.
Regarding the names also, many are hard to read. "Silesla", "Bohemia", and a few others. You may have to play around with text size and continent color to make all the names clear and readable.
Again with the continent colors, look into adjusting their shades and tones. I think the 'neutral' area is fine.
Connecting lines (such as Greece to Smyrna) need to be more prominent. They almost get lost in the sea. Look into making them stand out more, perhaps larger and thicker. Whatever you do, make sure you can easily see them, and what they connect.
Also consider making the "Impassable Borders" (note you misspelled it) larger and thicker on the map, so they can clearly be seen. It's all about clarity...making things easy for people to see and understand when they look at an area. Making them thicker will help alleviate problems like "Does Berlin connect to Bavaria?", etc. If you notice, it's hard to tell there, and in a few other spots. Make sure the impassable objects clearly define what is connected to what. Again, the clarity thing.
The legend in horrendous. It isn't appealing at all. The scroll it is on fades into he neutral area and doesn't stand out. The numbers hardly feel or look like something from WW1. The colors and font could be changed to give it a better feel, as right now it is not visually attractive or even noticeable. I also don't think you need to include 'Neutrals' in the legend, I think people will understand. The 'legend' image next to the bonus legend is also oddly placed, and I am not sure it is needed.
Lastly for now, the compass seems a little fuzzy, and almost distorted. Perhaps boost the size slightly.

--Andy

Balsiefen · Post by **Balsiefen** » Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:04 pm

whats cyprus, it looks like it has a sea conection to smyrna

Qwert · Post by **Qwert** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:43 pm

these is the end of my EUROPE 1914.From now every body who wants to create map of these period its free to work.

Ruben Cassar · Post by **Ruben Cassar** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:49 pm

qwert wrote:these is the end of my EUROPE 1914.From now every body who wants to create map of these period its free to work.

What!? Come on qwert you cannot give up now. You have worked so hard and got so far. Come on the map is progressing well and I am sure many people want to play it. You have dedicated too much time to this project to give up now! Besides you are nearly there now.

onbekende · Post by **onbekende** » Wed Jan 03, 2007 3:52 pm

yeah, DON'T GIVE UP

if people keep complaining about the names, its your map, your choise

WWI EUROPE 1914[ABANDONED]

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