yes, that was jr's, I did copy and paste it and quoted it, then compared it to mine and also reviewed the thread of records, top 5's and 1st 5's and found them to be a little off then what I had. again, map rank is not always 100% reliable as you can see from reading from earlier posts, however, in most cases, in is a close ball park.
josko.ri wrote:3701 my new highscore.
I will add this.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:25 pm
by josko.ri
Blitzaholic wrote:yes, that was jr's, I did copy and paste it and quoted it, then compared it to mine and also reviewed the thread of records, top 5's and 1st 5's and found them to be a little off then what I had. again, map rank is not always 100% reliable as you can see from reading from earlier posts, however, in most cases, in is a close ball park.
I think that list made by just observations and notifications is less accurate than the one from map rank. ok, map rank can make mistakes due to some missing logs from 2006/07 but system of observations can make bigger mistakes. on this list, you dont have correct high scores for 6 players (from my last post) who made their high score this month, just because they dont post here (maybe they even dont know this thread exists). so, if 6 players' high scores in less than one month was not mentioned and recorded, then I think map rank, which makes minor mistakes(and makes it only for old players), is much more reliable source than notification system. and also, JR's system was very accurate in his recording of scores, I think there was no real chance that he recorded higher score than someone really had. that makes me think that if he recorded higher score for someone than you recorded on your lists, you should hold his data. if he had lower score on his list then you should add your data, so the list would be with more precise data.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:22 pm
by Blitzaholic
josko.ri wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:yes, that was jr's, I did copy and paste it and quoted it, then compared it to mine and also reviewed the thread of records, top 5's and 1st 5's and found them to be a little off then what I had. again, map rank is not always 100% reliable as you can see from reading from earlier posts, however, in most cases, in is a close ball park.
I think that list made by just observations and notifications is less accurate than the one from map rank. ok, map rank can make mistakes due to some missing logs from 2006/07 but system of observations can make bigger mistakes. on this list, you dont have correct high scores for 6 players (from my last post) who made their high score this month, just because they dont post here (maybe they even dont know this thread exists). so, if 6 players' high scores in less than one month was not mentioned and recorded, then I think map rank, which makes minor mistakes(and makes it only for old players), is much more reliable source than notification system. and also, JR's system was very accurate in his recording of scores, I think there was no real chance that he recorded higher score than someone really had. that makes me think that if he recorded higher score for someone than you recorded on your lists, you should hold his data. if he had lower score on his list then you should add your data, so the list would be with more precise data.
that is a good point, JR's system was very accurate in his recording of scores. I can go review it and make an update, thx josko.ri.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Sun Feb 20, 2011 3:33 pm
by josko.ri
Blitzaholic wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:yes, that was jr's, I did copy and paste it and quoted it, then compared it to mine and also reviewed the thread of records, top 5's and 1st 5's and found them to be a little off then what I had. again, map rank is not always 100% reliable as you can see from reading from earlier posts, however, in most cases, in is a close ball park.
I think that list made by just observations and notifications is less accurate than the one from map rank. ok, map rank can make mistakes due to some missing logs from 2006/07 but system of observations can make bigger mistakes. on this list, you dont have correct high scores for 6 players (from my last post) who made their high score this month, just because they dont post here (maybe they even dont know this thread exists). so, if 6 players' high scores in less than one month was not mentioned and recorded, then I think map rank, which makes minor mistakes(and makes it only for old players), is much more reliable source than notification system. and also, JR's system was very accurate in his recording of scores, I think there was no real chance that he recorded higher score than someone really had. that makes me think that if he recorded higher score for someone than you recorded on your lists, you should hold his data. if he had lower score on his list then you should add your data, so the list would be with more precise data.
that is a good point, JR's system was very accurate in his recording of scores. I can go review it and make an update, thx josko.ri.
thanks for lot of effort put here, it is very pleasure for everyone to see own name on best 100 ever list, so I only want to help to run it with more precision. I am not old member so you know better how to record old scores, but for future high scores I may help with recording it with high precision rate.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Mon Feb 21, 2011 10:26 am
by Blitzaholic
josko.ri wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:yes, that was jr's, I did copy and paste it and quoted it, then compared it to mine and also reviewed the thread of records, top 5's and 1st 5's and found them to be a little off then what I had. again, map rank is not always 100% reliable as you can see from reading from earlier posts, however, in most cases, in is a close ball park.
I think that list made by just observations and notifications is less accurate than the one from map rank. ok, map rank can make mistakes due to some missing logs from 2006/07 but system of observations can make bigger mistakes. on this list, you dont have correct high scores for 6 players (from my last post) who made their high score this month, just because they dont post here (maybe they even dont know this thread exists). so, if 6 players' high scores in less than one month was not mentioned and recorded, then I think map rank, which makes minor mistakes(and makes it only for old players), is much more reliable source than notification system. and also, JR's system was very accurate in his recording of scores, I think there was no real chance that he recorded higher score than someone really had. that makes me think that if he recorded higher score for someone than you recorded on your lists, you should hold his data. if he had lower score on his list then you should add your data, so the list would be with more precise data.
that is a good point, JR's system was very accurate in his recording of scores. I can go review it and make an update, thx josko.ri.
thanks for lot of effort put here, it is very pleasure for everyone to see own name on best 100 ever list, so I only want to help to run it with more precision. I am not old member so you know better how to record old scores, but for future high scores I may help with recording it with high precision rate.
ok, thx a lot m8
I would appreciate that.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:33 am
by josko.ri
btw, if a player has zero missing logs, does it mean that map rank for him/her is accurate?
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 8:42 am
by nagerous
Bruceswar wrote:
Leehar wrote:
josko.ri wrote:
ljex wrote:
josko.ri wrote:these players right now has more points than on this list:
6 [player]pimphawks70[/player] 4408 7 [player]David Hoekstra[/player] 4346 19 [player]Myrelock[/player] 3784 20 [player]josko.ri[/player] 3672 23 [player]merida[/player] 3621 (outside of top 100)
also, some players on your list has less high score than in last active JR's list which you inherited from him.
what about [player]krusher[/player]? map rank says he had 5514 high score and he is not here on the list at all. maybe map rank is not so accurate but so big mistake I think shouldnt be done.
he cheated to get that score (something about secret diplomacy in 8 man fs escalating, not exactly sure if that is correct but that is what i heard)...there used to be a wall of shame on the bottom, dont know where it is now.
aha, so the ones who cheated are not considered in this list? good btw, if player is not registered user (he is listed as guest), does it mean that he was cheating andkicked out because of that? one "guest" is in this list (outside of best 100 right now) [player]KLOBBER[/player]
It just depends on if they cheated to get their high score (on the list), klobber was just a recent guesting I think, may not have even be related to gameplay
Klobber was busted for multi accounts
I don't think so. He was guested for forum violations I believe.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 9:13 am
by InsomniaRed
KLOBBER was busted for multi accounts back in August, though he also had forum violations.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 10:42 am
by Blitzaholic
InsomniaRed wrote:KLOBBER was busted for multi accounts back in August, though he also had forum violations.
InsomniaRed is correct as usual.
Another minor flaw is the scoreboard updates every hour, some players may of reached higher scores at times within that short timeframe in which the scoreboard would not show, because they could of lost some games right after they won. This is why I had many players months ago post it (high score) with players confirming it in this thread.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 12:54 pm
by josko.ri
Blitzaholic wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:KLOBBER was busted for multi accounts back in August, though he also had forum violations.
InsomniaRed is correct as usual.
Another minor flaw is the scoreboard updates every hour, some players may of reached higher scores at times within that short timeframe in which the scoreboard would not show, because they could of lost some games right after they won. This is why I had many players months ago post it (high score) with players confirming it in this thread.
nobody answered so I ask again:
if a player has zero missing logs, does it mean that map rank for him/her is accurate?
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:05 pm
by Leehar
josko.ri wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
InsomniaRed wrote:KLOBBER was busted for multi accounts back in August, though he also had forum violations.
InsomniaRed is correct as usual.
Another minor flaw is the scoreboard updates every hour, some players may of reached higher scores at times within that short timeframe in which the scoreboard would not show, because they could of lost some games right after they won. This is why I had many players months ago post it (high score) with players confirming it in this thread.
nobody answered so I ask again:
if a player has zero missing logs, does it mean that map rank for him/her is accurate?
I don't know the why's or the wherefore's, but as Blitz mentioned earlier, when we were checking bests HS earlier, people came up with a few different results, using quite a few different scripts. There's the map rank, then there score chart, a neat tool that Dako showed, and even andy has a nice app that shows the movements of scores. I'm concerned that you're using map rank as your be all and end all. We know that missing logs are one of the reasons that scores are inaccurate with it, but it's quite possible there are a number of other things that mess it up as well. I for one am more likely to trust the score I've seen on someones profile then something that has been known to have had errors before, tho that is very much a fallible a solution.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:08 pm
by nagerous
Map rank always tells me my score is higher than it is.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:11 pm
by InsomniaRed
nagerous wrote:Map rank always tells me my score is higher than it is.
Shhhh just go with it
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2011 1:16 pm
by josko.ri
nagerous wrote:Map rank always tells me my score is higher than it is.
you have 20 missing logs (it can be checked in "summary" section in map rank), so it is not weird that for you it tells wrong. I have zero missing logs and for me map rank always showed proper score.
so I know that map rank is not accurate, and reason for that is some missong logs from 2006/2007. does it mean that map rank IS accurate for players who has zero missing logs?
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 10:23 am
by Blitzaholic
josko.ri wrote:
nagerous wrote:Map rank always tells me my score is higher than it is.
you have 20 missing logs (it can be checked in "summary" section in map rank), so it is not weird that for you it tells wrong. I have zero missing logs and for me map rank always showed proper score.
so I know that map rank is not accurate, and reason for that is some missong logs from 2006/2007. does it mean that map rank IS accurate for players who has zero missing logs?
I would say that it is not 100% accurate for all players, but, it is a close ball park.
Leehar wrote:I don't know the why's or the wherefore's, but as Blitz mentioned earlier, when we were checking bests HS earlier, people came up with a few different results, using quite a few different scripts. There's the map rank, then there score chart, a neat tool that Dako showed, and even andy has a nice app that shows the movements of scores. I'm concerned that you're using map rank as your be all and end all. We know that missing logs are one of the reasons that scores are inaccurate with it, but it's quite possible there are a number of other things that mess it up as well. I for one am more likely to trust the score I've seen on someones profile then something that has been known to have had errors before, tho that is very much a fallible a solution.
Leehar summed it well.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 3:26 pm
by josko.ri
these high scores I have different than you, it is all high scores that I know from February which are not updated yet:
[player]David Hoekstra[/player] 4369 (score in this moment) [player]Egel[/player] 3786 [player]astompel[/player] 3776 [player]josko.ri[/player] 3775 [player]merida[/player] 3726 newcomer to the list [player]Crash_22[/player] 3659
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:15 pm
by JOHNNYROCKET24
Map rank has missing logs. This list I documented for years before turning it over to Blitz was accurate. I dont know what changes he has made since than, but it was perfect prior to that.
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Wed Feb 23, 2011 5:49 pm
by Fruitcake
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Map rank has missing logs. This list I documented for years before turning it over to Blitz was accurate. I dont know what changes he has made since than, but it was perfect prior to that.
So the list has been changed in some way since you ran it JR?
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2011 6:22 pm
by Blitzaholic
There were a few differences in some points with a few players, not many, with differnent map ranks showing different highs. The last example was with thebest712 awhile back, but, jr had him at 5321, so I changed it as jr oversaw this, and, where that was the highest score recorded, I gave it to him. Same with DW, I had him a wince higher then jr did at that time, and gave him the higher. These scores are all accurate with jr's, the only ones that are not is the players who moved up in points and score since jr managed this.
Blitzaholic wrote: NEW + UPDATED on updated 2-24-11
JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:Only the first post to this thread will be edited and contain the up to date information. New high scores must be sent to me via PM with the proof that you have achieved it. A snapshot will be fine. Please do not just post " I had a 3956 ". This will not be accepted if I do not see it on the scoreboard.
I can be flexible with this, I'd rather not have my inbox flooded, but, a post in here, and some confirmation!
THE TOP 100 HIGHEST SCORES "since the beginning of time" (updated Feb. 24th, 2011)
these high scores I have different than you, it is all high scores that I know from February which are not updated yet:
[player]David Hoekstra[/player] 4369 (score in this moment) [player]Egel[/player] 3786 [player]astompel[/player] 3776 [player]josko.ri[/player] 3775 [player]merida[/player] 3726 newcomer to the list [player]Crash_22[/player] 3659
Re: CC'S ALL TIME TOP 100 SCORES
Posted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 8:24 pm
by Blitzaholic
josko.ri wrote:these high scores I have different than you, it is all high scores that I know from February which are not updated yet:
[player]David Hoekstra[/player] 4369 (score in this moment) [player]Egel[/player] 3786 [player]astompel[/player] 3776 [player]josko.ri[/player] 3775 [player]merida[/player] 3726 newcomer to the list [player]Crash_22[/player] 3659
