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Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 10:44 am
by ZawBanjito
The Surrender Button blew. We all moaned like babies when it went, then two days later we were shouting down anyone who asked for it back. Everyone complains about deadbeats. The Button was Deadbeat Apocalypse. The Button was like, "I don't like this setup. Goodbye!" "My dice suck. Adios!" "If you attack me again, I'm going to leave LOSER."

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:21 am
by joeyjordison
yeh surrender button would only work if u still lost points. even then it could b a bit dodgy. i still like the idea of it for the odd cases where some1 won't wipe u but if u hit the surrender button u should still lose points.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:40 am
by Exterminator
thought.

if someone presses the surender button, their cards ar shared evenly to the oponants...AND they loose TWICE as many points as they would at the end. If the games a terminator, the winner will get the points lost by the surendered person.

this should put ppl off suredering.

thoughts ??

like it

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 11:57 am
by spinwizard
I LIKE IT EXT. :wink: :wink: :wink:

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:17 pm
by everywhere116
Exterminator wrote:thought.

if someone presses the surender button, their cards ar shared evenly to the oponants...AND they loose TWICE as many points as they would at the end. If the games a terminator, the winner will get the points lost by the surendered person.

this should put ppl off suredering.

thoughts ??


Not having a surrender button in the first place will put people off surrendering more effectively.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:19 pm
by Exterminator
everywhere116 wrote:
Exterminator wrote:thought.

if someone presses the surender button, their cards ar shared evenly to the oponants...AND they loose TWICE as many points as they would at the end. If the games a terminator, the winner will get the points lost by the surendered person.

this should put ppl off suredering.

thoughts ??


Not having a surrender button in the first place will put people off surrendering more effectively.


wot if sum1 has to go on holiday. if they cant kill themselve quikly enuff, then they will deadbeat, which slows the game down.

so if thats the case, the person will press the surender button.

Posted: Sat Jan 13, 2007 2:03 pm
by everywhere116
Exterminator wrote:
everywhere116 wrote:
Exterminator wrote:thought.

if someone presses the surender button, their cards ar shared evenly to the oponants...AND they loose TWICE as many points as they would at the end. If the games a terminator, the winner will get the points lost by the surendered person.

this should put ppl off suredering.

thoughts ??


Not having a surrender button in the first place will put people off surrendering more effectively.


wot if sum1 has to go on holiday. if they cant kill themselve quikly enuff, then they will deadbeat, which slows the game down.

so if thats the case, the person will press the surender button.


I belive lack is coming up with a vacation button for that.

Forfit button without abuse

Posted: Thu Feb 01, 2007 5:31 pm
by hecter
we all no about the forfit button, and i no the idea has been posted before to please dont give me greif for it. but to prevent its abuse, the persons cards are to be distributed to the other teams, and your men become neutral when you use it. so it really doesnt help your team, or hinder players much at all.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:42 pm
by Nous-irons
Perhaps the ability to surrender to someone, and give them your cards.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:49 pm
by Izmecorey
Nous-irons wrote:Perhaps the ability to surrender to someone, and give them your cards.


You can abuse that one. Get cards with two people playing, and have someone surrender there cards to that person. Split that cards evenly or almost evenly, then I can see that happening.

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:49 pm
by Incandenza
Nous-irons wrote:Perhaps the ability to surrender to someone, and give them your cards.


That seems like it might be abused just a bit...

The way I see it, the only people that would ever use a forfeit button are people using it to gain some sort of unsavory advantage.

The rest of us fight it out, come what may. If a deadbeating situation comes up (have to go out of town, etc.), then you put it in the game chat and let everyone know.

Forfeiting games is for college football teams that broke NCAA recruiting violations. :lol:

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 6:53 pm
by Molacole
put that option in an escilating game and watch me abuse the hell out of it...

Posted: Fri Feb 02, 2007 8:32 pm
by spiesr
Not to mention a bajillion complaints cause the amount cards is unlikley to be the same as the amount of people...

A surrender button, that can't be abused

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:35 am
by Jamie
The surrender button was scrapped, because people complained about a very weak person giving up, and then no one would get their cards. I have the perfect solution. Make it so that you can surrender, your men become neutral, but eliminating the neutral armies will give the person who did the eliminating the cards he/she would have gotten for eliminating the person in the first place. If two people surrender, you simply have two colors for nuetral, or even three. Black, Gray, White. Since those are the only neutral colors, I guess you could make it so that only 3 people per game can surrender. How many games would thier be though, where four people wanted to surrender. I doubt there would ever be any. If someone thinks this idea is flawed post a reply.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 2:40 am
by millej11
seems fine, it actually would make sense to attack neutral territories then

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:30 am
by Incandenza
Why would you ever really want a surrender button?

Yeah, I know there are games that are pretty much lost, but suck it up, cupcake.* Play out the string with pride and know that when the situation is reversed, your opponents will do so as well.

Besides, you'll never be able to develop a surrender or forfeit button without some dirty bastard figuring out how it can be abused.

*copright 2006 wicked all rights reserved

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 5:35 am
by AK_iceman
Incandenza wrote:*copright 2006 jaydog all rights reserved


Fixed it. :wink:

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:45 am
by joeyjordison
better idea would b to just let them keep their origional colour etc only they don't take turns. hav their name crossed off and a note in log saying they hav surrendered.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:15 pm
by Nous-irons
I think another option is (if you don't want to play anymore in an rt game for example) "automatically skip all my turns" or something.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:45 pm
by Fieryo
people, the idea of a surrender button has been put to rest many, MANY times. Lack has clearly said it will not be coming back.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 4:53 pm
by hawkeye
You would have to lose points as a way to keep it from being abused.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 6:40 pm
by Beastly
i think the game is fine the way it is....

i like it

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 9:45 pm
by hecter
i like this idea better than what i posted not long ago.

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 10:59 pm
by Jamie
hawkeye wrote:You would have to lose points as a way to keep it from being abused.


Well yeah, it was that way with the old surrender button was it not. Surrendering does mean losing, though you don't lose the pts til the game ends and the winner is known

Posted: Sat Feb 03, 2007 11:14 pm
by Molacole
only way I would like to see a surrender button is for somebody going on vacation or some isht like that. make it if you surrender in one game you are forced to surrender in all games (including real life)...