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How Dangerous Is the Delta Variant, and Will It Cause a COVID Surge in the U.S.?
A new, more transmissible form of SARS-CoV-2 is rapidly spreading in the country and poses a threat to unvaccinated and partially vaccinated people

By Tanya Lewis on June 29, 2021

The Delta variant is here. First identified in India, this more transmissible form of the novel coronavirus has spread to at least 77 countries and regions and now makes up more than 20 percent of all U.S. cases. The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention has identified it as a “variant of concern.” If vaccination rates fail to keep pace with its spread, experts say, the variant could lead to new COVID surges in parts of the country where a substantial proportion of the population remains unvaccinated.

One group that appears to be more difficult to persuade is young adults. U.K. data indicate most of the Delta cases have been in younger people, who are less likely to have been vaccinated. In the U.S., adults aged 18 to 29 have had the lowest vaccination rates of any age age group, a recent CDC report found. Members of this group have a lower risk of severe disease or dying from COVID, but they can still be hospitalized and are at risk of developing long-haul symptoms. “There are still plenty of negative outcomes,” Rasmussen says.

Fauci Warns Dangerous Delta Variant Is The Greatest Threat To U.S. COVID Efforts
Updated June 22, 20214:25 PM ET

Fauci Warns Dangerous Delta Variant Is The Greatest Threat To U.S. COVID Efforts
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saxitoxin wrote:

Fauci Warns Dangerous Delta Variant Is The Greatest Threat To U.S. COVID Efforts
Updated June 22, 20214:25 PM ET

Then Dr. Doom better pressure his friends at the FDA to hurry up and approve Novavax ASAP if he wants Saxi vaccinated.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued new guidance on Tuesday recommending indoor mask use in areas with high transmission rates after new data suggested fully vaccinated individuals are not just contracting Covid-19 but could potentially infect others.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said recent studies had shown that those vaccinated individuals who do become infected with Covid have just as much viral load as the unvaccinated, making it possible for them to spread the virus to others. Based on that finding, Walensky said the CDC is also recommending that all school children wear masks in the fall.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... s-n1275012

Just how widespread infections among the vaccinated are in the U.S. is unknown. But despite the lack of data from the CDC, anecdotal evidence is widespread, with high-profile cases of groups of fully vaccinated individuals getting infected — like a group of Democrats from the Texas Legislature, a White House official, a group of New York Yankees, and an Olympic athlete.

Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research at the University of Minnesota who advised the Biden transition, said he is particularly concerned about the increasing number of instances he is hearing about where groups of vaccinated individuals are becoming infected. The CDC has said the data indicates the vaccinated can’t spread the virus to other vaccinated people, but Osterholm said the clusters of cases among the vaccinated suggest otherwise.

In one cluster of more than 200 cases in Provincetown, Massachusetts, 70 percent of the Covid positive cases since July 1 have been among vaccinated individuals, Town Manager Alex Morse said in an MSNBC interview.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... s-n1275012

A study by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem published on Tuesday indicated that the Pfizer vaccine’s effectiveness in preventing serious illness has fallen to 80 percent.

Recent data released by the Health Ministry shows that those who were first to receive their two doses of the Pfizer COVID vaccine are more likely now to be infected, as the vaccine appears to lose protection potency over time.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-s ... hers-warn/

saxitoxin wrote:The more intense push for vaccination appears now to be to arrest increased spread being caused by the vaccinated themselves, based on new discoveries of properties not previously known about the vaccines, underscoring how little we know about their long-term implications.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention issued new guidance on Tuesday recommending indoor mask use in areas with high transmission rates after new data suggested fully vaccinated individuals are not just contracting Covid-19 but could potentially infect others.

CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said recent studies had shown that those vaccinated individuals who do become infected with Covid have just as much viral load as the unvaccinated, making it possible for them to spread the virus to others. Based on that finding, Walensky said the CDC is also recommending that all school children wear masks in the fall.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... s-n1275012

The more people who get vaccinated, the more the virus is being spread to the unvaccinated, therefore, more people need to get vaccinated. Unfortunately, that strategy only works as long as the vaccines themselves work, and there's evidence they're already failing.

Just how widespread infections among the vaccinated are in the U.S. is unknown. But despite the lack of data from the CDC, anecdotal evidence is widespread, with high-profile cases of groups of fully vaccinated individuals getting infected — like a group of Democrats from the Texas Legislature, a White House official, a group of New York Yankees, and an Olympic athlete.

Michael Osterholm, director of the Center for Infectious Disease Research at the University of Minnesota who advised the Biden transition, said he is particularly concerned about the increasing number of instances he is hearing about where groups of vaccinated individuals are becoming infected. The CDC has said the data indicates the vaccinated can’t spread the virus to other vaccinated people, but Osterholm said the clusters of cases among the vaccinated suggest otherwise.

In one cluster of more than 200 cases in Provincetown, Massachusetts, 70 percent of the Covid positive cases since July 1 have been among vaccinated individuals, Town Manager Alex Morse said in an MSNBC interview.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white- ... s-n1275012

Meanwhile, concerning news out of Israel in a new study of the vaccinated released 12 hours ago showing the vaccinated are actually more likely to get COVID-19 and its one selling point - protection against death and hospitalization - is falling dramatically (from 90% to 80% in 90 days) ...

A study by the Hebrew University of Jerusalem published on Tuesday indicated that the Pfizer vaccine’s effectiveness in preventing serious illness has fallen to 80 percent.

Recent data released by the Health Ministry shows that those who were first to receive their two doses of the Pfizer COVID vaccine are more likely now to be infected, as the vaccine appears to lose protection potency over time.

https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-s ... hers-warn/

It is time we quarantine the vaccinated to protect the majority of the population who are unvaccinated.

DirtyDishSoap wrote: Fucking yikes.

Kind of glad I held off on it.

DirtyDishSoap wrote:I was kind of hoping this virus would have targeted IQ's or lack of common sense. Pretty bummed out.

• COVID-19 infections, deaths growing in vaccinated people
  
  An NJ Spotlight News analysis of data from the state Department of Health for the most recent two-week period — June 29 through July 12 — found that the number of COVID-19 cases among fully vaccinated people increased by more than 16%. The number of hospitalizations jumped by two-thirds and the number of deaths rose by 55%, that analysis found.
  
  https://www.njspotlight.com/2021/07/cov ... b-mask-up/

saxitoxin wrote:

DirtyDishSoap wrote:I was kind of hoping this virus would have targeted IQ's or lack of common sense. Pretty bummed out.

It is. After all the vaccinated people end up impotent, saxi will have the responsibility of impregnating thousands of women.

ConfederateSS wrote:

DBandit70 wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:------Never ,I will put my trust in GOD ...If GOD wants me to live,I will Live...

+++++1

---------Yes, I think someone who FOED me for Believing in HOLY Protection....Laughed,mocked GOD,Ironic...If that person had Faith in something...He would still be able to give 10 after someone slaps him 5...As it is,that person is still alive...So,might have lost 3 fingers,not his whole hand,Where he can be a fictional character, Captain Hook ...So GOD,kept him from bleeding to death...But whether a Liberal from Portland in the West or A Liberal from Boston in the East...GOD watches over you...But he doesn't give HAND OUTS...PUN intended ...GOD works in mysterious ways... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ....Still doing fine...THANK GOD ...My Guardian Angel...To whom HIS love commits me here...Ever this day...Be at my side...To Light and Guard...To Rule and Guide...AMEN ...Now that's KOOL... .......Take that... Science...I guess me ,DBandit70 and maybe HitRed...are the only TRUE BELIEVERS LEFT...well in C.C.LAND anyway... ....We are not anti Vaxers,we are PRO GODers...

jay_a2j wrote:Our awesome Governor in NY wants all State employees to either be fully vaccinated by Labor Day or get tested weekly for Covid 19 . I will do neither, so I may end up unemployed but at least I'll be alive.

ConfederateSS wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:

DBandit70 wrote:

ConfederateSS wrote:------Never ,I will put my trust in GOD ...If GOD wants me to live,I will Live...

+++++1

---------Yes, I think someone who FOED me for Believing in HOLY Protection....Laughed,mocked GOD,Ironic...If that person had Faith in something...He would still be able to give 10 after someone slaps him 5...As it is,that person is still alive...So,might have lost 3 fingers,not his whole hand,Where he can be a fictional character, Captain Hook ...So GOD,kept him from bleeding to death...But whether a Liberal from Portland in the West or A Liberal from Boston in the East...GOD watches over you...But he doesn't give HAND OUTS...PUN intended ...GOD works in mysterious ways... ... ConfederateSS.out!(The Blue and Silver Rebellion)... ....Still doing fine...THANK GOD ...My Guardian Angel...To whom HIS love commits me here...Ever this day...Be at my side...To Light and Guard...To Rule and Guide...AMEN ...Now that's KOOL... .......Take that... Science...I guess me ,DBandit70 and maybe HitRed...are the only TRUE BELIEVERS LEFT...well in C.C.LAND anyway... ....We are not anti Vaxers,we are PRO GODers...

Welcome back to the fight... THIS TIME I KNOW OUR SIDE WILL WIN

jay_a2j wrote:Our awesome Governor in NY wants all State employees to either be fully vaccinated by Labor Day or get tested weekly for Covid 19 . I will do neither, so I may end up unemployed but at least I'll be alive.

saxitoxin wrote: You should just do the test. It's as much as an FU to Cuomo but you have more power when you're employed..

Novavax should report on August 5 if they will be available by September. If they are then you will only need to deal with a few weeks testing before a non mRNA vax is available. Sanofi may also be available in Canada by that point.

KoolBak wrote:Viagra isn't candy

jay_a2j wrote:

saxitoxin wrote: You should just do the test. It's as much as an FU to Cuomo but you have more power when you're employed..

Novavax should report on August 5 if they will be available by September. If they are then you will only need to deal with a few weeks testing before a non mRNA vax is available. Sanofi may also be available in Canada by that point.

I don't believe the testing is accurate. What if I test positive, accurate or not? There is always something more down the line. These people want nothing less than every man, woman and child to take the jab. Know of far too many real life terrible side effects of the shot.(ignored by main stream media) This job is the ONLY thing keeping me in NYS. I'll be beyond happy to leave....