Conquer Club

dgz345 wrote:

Skittles! wrote:

dgz345 wrote:Unvote

Vote aage

This is so suss?

unvote aage

Why would you vote right after I voted, make aage closer to the vote, and ignore Skoffin's vote count? Whats your go dgz?

Should I even respond to this?

Nah tbh, I just wanted a reasoning more than anything.

vote aage

Mets is the more likely scum partner of the remaining people. If somehow, my result was inaccurate, Ragian and DGZ are the scum. Skittles is probably town either way. His play pattern doesn't fit neatly into scum here.
Vote Aage

Guess I die. Sorry I didn’t post more, somehow this game wasn’t as enjoyable for me as it should have been and I actually did forget about its existence several times over the course of it. I would have defended myself more under different circumstances, what I played was more of a stalling attempt expecting to get motivated to post&play on a later day. (I didn’t.)
Good game and have fun guys.

Agee gets lynched by the gang of slacking skoffins. so all of them decides that its time to sleep.

vote count
6 alive, 4 needed to lynch


Mets ----------
Strike --------
dgz -----------
Ragoo --------
Skittles ------
Agge --------- , ragoo, , dg, skittle, strike
No lynch - aage,, mets

One sec

All the Skoffins rotated between being briefly annoyed, and going back to sleep. Very little was getting done until one Skoffin stepped forward with an accusation "That Skoffin is always complaining, surely that is a sign of evil"
The rest looked up with a shrug "Yeah makes sense"
They dragged the accused Skoffin to the lynching square "Rest assured, you will all hear about how mad this will make me! I'll haunt you all in death!"
"k" the final Skoffin responded when putting the noose around aage's neck.


AAge Complaint Skoffin (Mafia Goon) has beed lynched

IT IS NOW NIGHT, SEND ACTIONS

While the rest of the Skoffins were napping, one Skoffin slinked off in search of snacks. While this fat shit was headfirst in a pantry it was the perfect opportunity for a more sinister Skoffin to come up and stab the hungry one in the back.

Come morning when the body was discovered, everyone in town agreed that they deserved it to be honest.

Skittles Hungry Skoffin be dead


DAY TIME NERDS

*Types out huge long post then realizes the whole thing is irrelevant because I had the information wrong*

So I dont have a result that seems beneficial to share at this time. We are definitively at MYLo. Mass claim ?

Dang. I'm in for a mass claim.

Well 4 alive we can always vote no lynch...

or just lynch mets??

Yes, we should absolutely vote no lynch today. There's just absolutely no reason to gamble. Not sure if mass claim is better on D3 or D4.

Since strike appears to be cleared, then from my perspective scum is either Ragian or dgz. But I think the skittles death is itself a clue; avoiding the claimed cop is an experienced scum move, so I'm leaning more towards Ragian. Of course, that's a tenuous thing to go on...

The problem with no lynch is that if strike dies our odds are the same.

If we count him as confirmed then we have 3 unconfirmed.

So it's still going to be a vote with the same 3 people.

Tho we might have a doctor that can get lucky.


I would say doctor on strike and we vote no lynch.

I would prefer a mass claim now so that scum has one more bullet to dodge.

Ragian wrote:I would prefer a mass claim now so that scum has one more bullet to dodge.

Even if we have a doctor? Or should he also lie?

Strike should maybe share if he ever checked one of us?

dgz345 wrote:The problem with no lynch is that if strike dies our odds are the same.

If we count him as confirmed then we have 3 unconfirmed.

So it's still going to be a vote with the same 3 people.

Tho we might have a doctor that can get lucky.


I would say doctor on strike and we vote no lynch.

I agree with this logic. You're right that if strike dies it's the same. But if we do have a doctor, or a roleblocker, or a busdriver, or some related role that can get us into D4 without strike dying, then we're in a better position. In fact, we may be in extremely good shape in that case. We can infer from strike's comment that he didn't come up with scum, so unless something unexpected happened, that means he knows at least 1 of the 3 of us is town. If he survives tonight then he has a decent chance of clearing the second one, so we're set for D4. He might get unlucky and investigate the person who scum kills, but that's not actively worse for us than the alternative, and then at least there's only 2 people to choose from rather than 3. Again, if there is no doctor/roleblocker/etc. then we're in the same boat on D4 that we are now. But scum doesn't know if one of these roles exists, so they will have some hesitancy tonight on whether to target strike, and that uncertainty is also good for town. So since there's only potential upside, we wait. Vote No Lynch

In case it occurred to anyone else, I did toss around in my mind the possibility of strike being scum partners with aage, and sacrificing him in a long con to gain our trust. But I think the fact that he didn't claim a scum result today is good evidence he's town, because he could have just claimed a guilty scum investigation and had us mislynch into a mafia victory.

Although something doesn't sit right with me about this situation -- why wouldn't strike share his result? In what scenario would clearing a townie right now be a bad move?

Metsfanmax wrote:Although something doesn't sit right with me about this situation -- why wouldn't strike share his result? In what scenario would clearing a townie right now be a bad move?

he might have checked skitts.

dgz345 wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:Although something doesn't sit right with me about this situation -- why wouldn't strike share his result? In what scenario would clearing a townie right now be a bad move?

he might have checked skitts.

That's fair. Although I don't see what would be the point in obscuring the action even in that case.

True.

Ragian wrote:I would prefer a mass claim now so that scum has one more bullet to dodge.

I don't understand this statement. Can you explain what you meant? Why does a mass claim today make things harder for scum compared to tomorrow?

@mets there is one difference.

The amount of people in the discussion

Scum has more roles to dodge.

Strike says his result is not worth sharing right now. We don't know why, though. Him checking skittles! is a good choice.

So who wants to start?

dgz345 wrote:So who wants to start?

I haven't agreed to the mass claim yet, as I haven't been convinced it's a good play. I think Ragian's reasoning is that there's more likely to be a successful counterclaim when there's more players alive, but I'm not convinced it works out the way town would want. For example, suppose Ragian is a town doctor and dgz is scum. Ragian's saying that dgz can't risk claiming doctor because he could get counterclaimed and then die. But we can't discount the reverse possibility -- what if Ragian claims first, and truthfully claims doctor (in this scenario) and then dgz counterclaims him? Who are we supposed to lynch? In a potential MyLo situation I genuinely don't know what to do in such a state, because I don't know who is telling the truth, and the stakes are too high to get it wrong. We can't rely on or enforce claim ordering because we don't know which of the three of us is town.