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Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 10:40 am
by Invdr_zim
nàme wrote:Hold the bag by the middle where the rope is. Take off the rope, but keeping your hand there separating the two. Tie a rope from the middle of the opening part of the bag (above the lentils so they are kept in a smaller section) to where your hand is, creating a compartment that is approximately 3/8ths of the bag. Release your hand so the peas are in the other 5/8ths of the bag, with a compartment that reaches the opening. Hold the bag upside down so the peas fall to one half, then tie a knot down the middle separating the two sections. Untie the knot that restrained the lentils to 3/8th of the bag. Open the half of the bag that contains the peas.
Or just give him both because you are generous.
we got too technical there ;p remember one bag will be inside out by the time your done with the transfer.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Tue Sep 24, 2013 11:58 pm
by BigBallinStalin
Invdr_zim wrote:Bombersftw wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:crispybits wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:A shopkeeper gives you three bottles. Two bottles contain poison, the other one contains water. You may ask the shopkeeper one (yes-or-no) question to determine which bottle has the water.
Can you ask the same question more than once?
I have a sneaky suspicion you know the answer to this already, but to answer your question yes.
question. Does this one have poison.. if no ask same again pointing to dif bottle... until its found.
is that it? so simple if it is...
You aced that one!
Edit: still thinking on the ring one...
What? It says "one" question.
Asking more than one question is.... >1 question--even if it's the same question.
"Is the poisoned bottle this one?"
Shopkeeper: No.
"Is the--"
Shopkeeper: Sorry, you can only have one question.
Was the riddle not setup appropriately? If so, then it has more than one answer. "The same, one question asked multiple times." Or, "unsolvable because one question is one question."
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:08 am
by nàme
BigBallinStalin wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:Bombersftw wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:crispybits wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:A shopkeeper gives you three bottles. Two bottles contain poison, the other one contains water. You may ask the shopkeeper one (yes-or-no) question to determine which bottle has the water.
Can you ask the same question more than once?
I have a sneaky suspicion you know the answer to this already, but to answer your question yes.
question. Does this one have poison.. if no ask same again pointing to dif bottle... until its found.
is that it? so simple if it is...
You aced that one!
Edit: still thinking on the ring one...
What? It says "one" question.
Asking more than one question is.... >1 question--even if it's the same question.
"Is the poisoned bottle this one?"
Shopkeeper: No.
"Is the--"
Shopkeeper: Sorry, you can only have one question.
Was the riddle not setup appropriately? If so, then it has more than one answer. "The same, one question asked multiple times." Or, "unsolvable because one question is one question."
The one question he asked is "Is this the poisoned bottle?".
He asked the one question two times. Tricky wordsmanship, but fair, I suppose.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:21 am
by BigBallinStalin
I know; I just said that. And obviously, the riddle has more than one correct answer: 'one question multiple times' or 'no solution possible'.
So, the point of riddles is to rely on multiple meanings of words, and when given a variety of answers (even if they are obviously correct--as I've shown), then the 'riddle-asker' arbitrarily chooses only one to be correct?
The only riddle here is: why is nonsense so appealing to some?
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:04 am
by Invdr_zim
BigBallinStalin wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:Bombersftw wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:crispybits wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:A shopkeeper gives you three bottles. Two bottles contain poison, the other one contains water. You may ask the shopkeeper one (yes-or-no) question to determine which bottle has the water.
Can you ask the same question more than once?
I have a sneaky suspicion you know the answer to this already, but to answer your question yes.
question. Does this one have poison.. if no ask same again pointing to dif bottle... until its found.
is that it? so simple if it is...
You aced that one!
Edit: still thinking on the ring one...
What? It says "one" question.
Asking more than one question is.... >1 question--even if it's the same question.
"Is the poisoned bottle this one?"
Shopkeeper: No.
"Is the--"
Shopkeeper: Sorry, you can only have one question.
Was the riddle not setup appropriately? If so, then it has more than one answer. "The same, one question asked multiple times." Or, "unsolvable because one question is one question."
Oh the riddle was set up correctly, I can assure you, its one of those "you really have to watch your grammar" riddles, that's why it works (and why it had me stumped for the longest time) "you may ask the shopkeeper "one" (yes-no) question" it doesn't say you cannot repeat yourself... that's the trick.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Wed Sep 25, 2013 9:08 am
by Invdr_zim
BigBallinStalin wrote:I know; I just said that. And obviously, the riddle has more than one correct answer: 'one question multiple times' or 'no solution possible'.
So, the point of riddles is to rely on multiple meanings of words, and when given a variety of answers (even if they are obviously correct--as I've shown), then the 'riddle-asker' arbitrarily chooses only one to be correct?
The only riddle here is: why is nonsense so appealing to some?
define nonsense.... what gets people with the bottle riddle is they think too literally...with riddles you need to find multiple meanings in words and phrases... that's the fun of riddles...
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 7:17 am
by Invdr_zim
so I take it I need to give another hint? or just throw out another riddle?
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:26 pm
by Bombersftw
Well I think my way would work, so maybe two answers to riddle?
if it has to finish inside out,
put the empty innnkeepers bag inside the poor mans
at the point of the knot
release knot and tip upside down so all of the bottom contents fall into the sac then remove the sac full of the peas or lentils whichever was in the bottom.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:46 am
by Invdr_zim
Bombersftw wrote:Well I think my way would work, so maybe two answers to riddle?
if it has to finish inside out,
put the empty innnkeepers bag inside the poor mans
at the point of the knot
release knot and tip upside down so all of the bottom contents fall into the sac then remove the sac full of the peas or lentils whichever was in the bottom.
I thought you would do something different in the end then we might have a possible second answer (I love when I get these as I'm always looking to debunk old riddles)... the peas and lentils cannot mix and you cannot take apart your bag as it is... you can only undo any bindings you put in it (that's a big hint)
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 2:57 pm
by crispybits
Did you spot my reply Invdr_zim? You never told me it was wrong.... (scroll back to just before the "riddles are stupid" tangent)
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 6:37 pm
by Invdr_zim
crispybits wrote:This one I can't claim credit for - it's come from a friend on facebook. No idea if it's right but looks plausible.
Turn the innkeepers sack inside out and pour the lentils in. Tie it off then turn it right way out again and pour the peas in. Untie the inside out bit and let the lentils fall back into the farmers sack.
Sorry for missing this... this is the concept in a nutshell but with an extra step... sorry for losing your reply amongst the "riddles are stupid" rant
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sun Sep 29, 2013 9:06 pm
by new guy1
Invdr_zim wrote:crispybits wrote:This one I can't claim credit for - it's come from a friend on facebook. No idea if it's right but looks plausible.
Turn the innkeepers sack inside out and pour the lentils in. Tie it off then turn it right way out again and pour the peas in. Untie the inside out bit and let the lentils fall back into the farmers sack.
Sorry for missing this... this is the concept in a nutshell but with an extra step... sorry for losing your reply amongst the "riddles are stupid" rant
So since a bag has to be inside out I guess you could turn your bag inside out before you pour the lentils back in, that way one is inside out and both of the people have the correct bags.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 8:14 am
by Invdr_zim
new guy1 wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:crispybits wrote:This one I can't claim credit for - it's come from a friend on facebook. No idea if it's right but looks plausible.
Turn the innkeepers sack inside out and pour the lentils in. Tie it off then turn it right way out again and pour the peas in. Untie the inside out bit and let the lentils fall back into the farmers sack.
Sorry for missing this... this is the concept in a nutshell but with an extra step... sorry for losing your reply amongst the "riddles are stupid" rant
So since a bag has to be inside out I guess you could turn your bag inside out before you pour the lentils back in, that way one is inside out and both of the people have the correct bags.
well you don't have to turn the bag inside out to start, like I said there is an extra step... but crispy bits has he concept.... what would happen is the farmer would walk away with his sack inside out by the end of the transaction but it would still work none the less.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 9:27 pm
by Invdr_zim
Here's one:
You give me something of immeasurable wealth and now you owe me a debt.
What did you give me?
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 10:17 pm
by new guy1
Ive read this one before, or a variation of sorts, and remember the answer. Ill give others a chance first though.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 11:23 pm
by rishaed
Invdr_zim wrote:Here's one:
You give me something of immeasurable wealth and now you owe me a debt.
What did you give me?
Round about its the you saved my life and so I'm giving it to you, and will owe you it for the rest of my life one?
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 1:16 pm
by Invdr_zim
rishaed wrote:Invdr_zim wrote:Here's one:
You give me something of immeasurable wealth and now you owe me a debt.
What did you give me?
Round about its the you saved my life and so I'm giving it to you, and will owe you it for the rest of my life one?
Its not a life...
Won't be on over the weekend (save to take turns on my games) docs orders have to give my hands a break... no cheating in the mean time... cheers all
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 5:03 am
by rishaed
but, but, it fits so perfectly );
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sat Oct 05, 2013 7:31 pm
by Invdr_zim
rishaed wrote:but, but, it fits so perfectly );
There's a better fit... I promise
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 5:44 pm
by Invdr_zim
ok I'm back at it now, sorry for the long absence, my hands have been bothering me....
there is a better fit then life... think what could you give me that would put you in debt (if you gave me life that would put me in your debt)
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:46 pm
by dario2099
herpes
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2013 7:08 pm
by Invdr_zim
dario2099 wrote:herpes
no lol, this is something that I wouldn't be upset about getting.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:05 am
by nàme
A child?
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:17 am
by Invdr_zim
nàme wrote:A child?
technically you give me a child we both owe that child a debt to make sure that s/he has a bright future so no... but I can see how a child would fit sadly in today's standards.
Re: Starting a possible riddle battle
Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:50 am
by Invdr_zim
can't give too big of a hint on this one... what is it that you would give me that would put you in my debt?