Conquer Club

jltile1 wrote:Simple as this if you telling someone the map and setting to make you are there setting up the game right?

Now why if you want to play a game with those setting would you not just create it and put it up as a waiting speed game?

Unless you want a certain player to play your game right?

Exactly.

jltile1 wrote:Simple as this. . .

if you telling someone the map and setting to make you are there setting up the game right?
-NO. creating the game is setting the game up
-someone else creating the game is THEM setting it up
-what I do now is JOIN their game
. . . please use a dictionary

Now why if you want to play a game with those setting would you not just create it and put it up as a waiting speed game?
-because someone like a CCCW member would join, and I don't like them
-AND I can get distracted, and forget it is set up. . .has happened

Unless you want a certain player to play your game right?
-NO.
-the certain players I WANT to join are female, naked and local.
-but I'll play people I think are friendly and beatable. no rule against that. It's called "Point management"

NEXT!. . .

Phatscotty wrote:F city Mogul

hey, i resent that. i think i made a very nice map regardless of the fact that some people use it for farming.

let me guess.

22:31:22 ‹Gen.LeeGettinhed› heya frox
22:31:26 ‹Frox333› GLG
22:31:28 ‹Frox333› YAY
22:32:03 * Knightwing42 quit (timeout)
22:32:15 * nagerous quit (timeout)

frox will now make a post as i see him in the forum lol

Gen.LeeGettinhed wrote:

jltile1 wrote:Simple as this. . .

if you telling someone the map and setting to make you are there setting up the game right?
-NO. creating the game is setting the game up
-someone else creating the game is THEM setting it up
-what I do now is JOIN their game
. . . please use a dictionary

Now why if you want to play a game with those setting would you not just create it and put it up as a waiting speed game?
-because someone like a CCCW member would join, and I don't like them
-AND I can get distracted, and forget it is set up. . .has happened

Unless you want a certain player to play your game right?
-NO.
-the certain players I WANT to join are female, naked and local.
-but I'll play people I think are friendly and beatable. no rule against that. It's called "Point management"

NEXT!. . .

Come on bend this shit till its broke right, well it seems as its broke.


When you go to burger king YOU order your whopper with light mayo, extra cheese, extra ketchup, no pickles, and that your friend billy make it for you. Now that being said did you or bill really make that burger. Well YOU did Billy's hands went to work yes, but in all reality You made the burger right.

DiM wrote:

Phatscotty wrote:F city Mogul

hey, i resent that. i think i made a very nice map regardless of the fact that some people use it for farming.

hey dim maybe you could code it that the starting points are only 2 for 1 v 1... and they are more further apart from each other

god damit, u calling glg a cheater? i played games with him, AND HE DID NOTHING OF THE SORT. take this down this instant. he is a fucking dick complaining sometimes LMFAO, but everybody does that. he plays fairly. damn u all for accusing him. just damn you

Frox333 wrote:god damit, u calling glg a cheater? i played games with him, AND HE DID NOTHING OF THE SORT. take this down this instant. he is a fucking dick complaining sometimes LMFAO, but everybody does that. he plays fairly. damn u all for accusing him. just damn you

rofl read 3 or 4 posts back

Well it appears this is the case; how many more pm's can you send people GLG to speak on your behalf as your puppet. Keep stringing them around mate. So, so pathetic.

Gen.LeeGettinhed wrote:

jltile1 wrote:Simple as this. . .

if you telling someone the map and setting to make you are there setting up the game right?
-NO. creating the game is setting the game up
-someone else creating the game is THEM setting it up
-what I do now is JOIN their game
. . . please use a dictionary

BULLSHIT



Now why if you want to play a game with those setting would you not just create it and put it up as a waiting speed game?
-because someone like a CCCW member would join, and I don't like them
-AND I can get distracted, and forget it is set up. . .has happened

YA RIGHT !!! You play 5 games a month a you would forget sure you spend so much time getting someone to join yet you would forget LMAO!!!


Unless you want a certain player to play your game right?
-NO.
-the certain players I WANT to join are female, naked and local.
-but I'll play people I think are friendly and beatable. no rule against that. It's called "Point management"

NEXT!. . .

Here is the point your seeking out people!!! You said it yourself beatable and you could care less about the rest. Point management is what farming ? Now let me out the basement as I'm going up Stairs to slap my mom after reading this.

Frox333 wrote:god damit, u calling glg a cheater? i played games with him, AND HE DID NOTHING OF THE SORT. take this down this instant. he is a fucking dick complaining sometimes LMFAO, but everybody does that. he plays fairly. damn u all for accusing him. just damn you

i forgot to say that i won.

codeblue1018 wrote::lol:

Well it appears this is the case; how many more pm's can you send people GLG to speak on your behalf as your puppet. Keep stringing them around mate. So, so pathetic.

they still have to speak on his behalf.. don't they? just like they had to choose to play a game with him... it's called free will... give it rest man...
they could have said no to playing him, just like they could have said no to posting in the thread on his behalf.....

at what point do you move on with your life? just go play some games.. you'll feel better... promise..

haha, there u go rhp, thats the spirit. stupid accuser....

And that's that.

Gen.LeeGettinhed has been Banned 1 month for Gross Abuse of the Game.

I apologize. I did not explain to anyone apart from GLG why he was given a ban. I will now, and we will see if it is ok with everyone. I am also going to unlock the thread, allow for people to post their (respectful) thoughts and comments, and attempt to answer them as much as I can.

Gen.LeeGettinhed was banned for 1 month as per the situation guidelines for Gross Abuse of Game, which is a major offence. The unofficial term for the particular problem is "Ranching". Simply speaking, it is the case of someone abusing the game by purposefully inviting people who have no experience with certain settings to guarantee a win.

Now, it isn't the fact that he is making these games that resulted in this. It is the fact that he would purposely seek out players with little to no experience on the maps, create the games, and invite them to private matches. This was under the guise of limiting losses, but regardless of the reason, it is still a gross abuse of our gaming system. People will say other players do this. Other players will start games, multiple ones, on maps that they are good at. I myself start 10+ Poland games whenever I get the urge to, as I feel it is my strongest map. But they do not purposely hunt down players who don't understand the maps and invite them under the guise of education, whether there was education or not. Again, this is abusing our system. After examining the situation, it was decided that this indeed did qualify as a Gross Abuse, and the infraction was handed down as per our guidelines. Any questions or comments (within reason), feel free to post in here. The same rules I posted earlier apply though: I won't tolerate any flaming, baiting, or anything of the sort. Keep the remarks clean. Thank you.

Always nice to see an explanation in this particular forum, thanks.

Lx

Very good ruling here C/A team.

One thing I've wondered though... is how GLG gets his opponents to consent to the game? Either they're incredibly gullible, or he'd make a damn good salesman.

just curious,
he was banned for 1 month and stripped of his premium and this is his second major offence.
when does the score reset come? the 3rd?

Lindax wrote:Always nice to see an explanation in this particular forum, thanks.

Lx

+1

QoH wrote:One thing I've wondered though... is how GLG gets his opponents to consent to the game? Either they're incredibly gullible, or he'd make a damn good salesman.

it's actually really easy to convince a low ranker to play with you if you're a conqueror.
first of all there's the potential of getting big points vs losing just a few which is appealing to anybody.
but more than that, you have the chance of beating the conqueror on his own turf under his own terms. it's the ultimate bragging thing for a lot of people.

DiM wrote:

QoH wrote:One thing I've wondered though... is how GLG gets his opponents to consent to the game? Either they're incredibly gullible, or he'd make a damn good salesman.

it's actually really easy to convince a low ranker to play with you if you're a conqueror.
first of all there's the potential of getting big points vs losing just a few which is appealing to anybody.
but more than that, you have the chance of beating the conqueror on his own turf under his own terms. it's the ultimate bragging thing for a lot of people.

That definitely could be the case more often than not. That never came to light.

I'll preface this with this... I've been accused of being one of GLG's minions or something to that effect because I posted things that could be construed as supportive in this thread... I have no relationship or attachment to GLG whatsoever and I don't like or dislike the guy... I really don't feel strongly in any direction about the him, and have chatted with him briefly on what I would guess is 2 occasions about topics that have nothing to do with game play... so I simply ask you read what I type critically and try not to inject personal feelings it... I know I don't take any of this personally, so I hope none of you do either... now...

most people control the games they play to some extent.. maybe GLG takes it too far, but I don't agree with this latest ruling (I do agree with the previous warning he received however)... people he has "targeted" in this latest round are people with experience on this site... sure, not on Mogul... but though most think that's the point, I would argue it's not.. How much experience would they need? 10 games? 50 games? some would say "how about 1 game?" lol... point taken. but the issue here is expectations... what were those players expectations when they were invited by GLG on that map? they have general CC experience, and if the top ranked player on the site invites you to play a game on a map you aren't familiar with, what are you your expectations? to gain map knowledge? to win? hahaha... seems the people that start these threads might be a bit more concerned about how it will affect the accused rather than the improvement of the site as a whole... I might be wrong, it wouldn't be the first time... It just bothers me when people aren't allowed to be responsible for themselves and their actions... If I were invited to a game by a top ranked player on a map I wasn't familiar with and got crushed, I wouldn't accuse that person of "gross abuse", "farming", "ranching" or anything else of the sort... I would accuse myself of stupidity, or at the very least of not paying attention to what I'm doing if I expected a different result.....
the last I'll say on this is that a few (1,2?) of the players he played spoke on his behalf... these testimonials, so to speak, were shot down, it was said, because GLG pm'd or walled them and told them what to say.. Ok.. granted... but did those players have to? Are they not able to make up their own mind? They easily could have said no to the invite, and then after the fact they could have said no to standing up on his behalf... just a thought...

This is not our site, and if the people in charge want to punish him.. fine by me... I just don't like the precedent it sets... that is, that people who have some reasonable level of experience need the protection of certain players and mods in order to play on CC.. It just doesn't seem right to me...

will there be a point reset?

Nice job DCR. You'll have your detractors but the majority of the site supports what has happened here. It is also a great thing you are doing by explaining the decision and allowing comments, though I don't expect it to stay open long.