Seat Belt Tickets...Specious Law Overturned!

[jay_a2j]

We just have to learn to accept that some people desire to live in freedom and others would rather have government dictate their lives for them. (that way they don't need to think for themselves as much)

You are a hypocrite - Isn't it your job to actively deny freedom to many people who the government has deemed 'criminal'?

I'll speak slowly....


I don't deny anything, a judge has. Why? So idiots like yourself are safe.

No, when you insist that your interpretation of morality, Christianity, etc is not only the only correct interpretation, but that your interpretation gives you the right to impose those rules upon other people who don't even share the faith... THAT is imposing.

And it has nothing to do with keeping people safe and EVERYTHING to do with a narrowness of thinking that you mistake for justification to impose YOUR will upon others. And no, that is NOT Christianity. Christ did not do as you, not at all.

Player do you smoke pot or crack? Seriously, I hit it down the right side of the field and you're somewhere out in left field trying to make a play. Fail.

[PLAYER57832]

Player do you smoke pot or crack? Seriously, I hit it down the right side of the field and you're somewhere out in left field trying to make a play. Fail.

You would say that. But, your thinking has nothing to do with logic, nor the Bible even.

[radiojake]

We just have to learn to accept that some people desire to live in freedom and others would rather have government dictate their lives for them. (that way they don't need to think for themselves as much)

You are a hypocrite - Isn't it your job to actively deny freedom to many people who the government has deemed 'criminal'?

I'll speak slowly....


I don't deny anything, a judge has. Why? So idiots like yourself are safe.

Ah yes, So I am safe. Tell me, Jay, how many inmates are incarcerated on drugs and possesion charges? I am sure all the dope fiends would be out to get me had the government not locked them up.

You have no right to talk about freedom and 'evils' of government involvement when you actively keep people behind prison bars. You are a walking example of hypocrisy - Whether or not the judge first decreed the sentence doesn't change the fact that you actively particpate within a system that denies people freedom.

By your logic Gestapo officers have nothing to answer for because they were merely enforcing The Fuhrer's will.

[jay_a2j]

We just have to learn to accept that some people desire to live in freedom and others would rather have government dictate their lives for them. (that way they don't need to think for themselves as much)

You are a hypocrite - Isn't it your job to actively deny freedom to many people who the government has deemed 'criminal'?

I'll speak slowly....


I don't deny anything, a judge has. Why? So idiots like yourself are safe.

Ah yes, So I am safe. Tell me, Jay, how many inmates are incarcerated on drugs and possesion charges? I am sure all the dope fiends would be out to get me had the government not locked them up.

You have no right to talk about freedom and 'evils' of government involvement when you actively keep people behind prison bars. You are a walking example of hypocrisy - Whether or not the judge first decreed the sentence doesn't change the fact that you actively particpate within a system that denies people freedom.

By your logic Gestapo officers have nothing to answer for because they were merely enforcing The Fuhrer's will.

Most of them have charges beyond drugs. I know this may be hard for you to believe but a lot of times those that have drug charges have a slew of others including murder. If you are comparing what I do with what the nazi's did then you will be useless to debate any further. Why not go break a law and find out for yourself.

[Woodruff]

I think compliance with the seat belt law has far less to do with intelligence level than it does with human error.

I disagree completely. Probably due to my experience with both my father and father-in-law who BY GOD WILL NOT BUCKLE, PERIOD! Even when it's a pain in the ass for them because they can't ride in our car.

It's almost always a conscious decision...those who accidentally forget are rare, because the habit has been formed.

just like being late to work. The habit has been formed to show up on time, but still people are late, for many reasons...being late is likewise a conscious decision?

You're actually trying to compare a very simple action that takes no time at all with something that takes anywhere from 10-60 minutes to complete? Really?

Oh, come on Woody. I religiously wear my seat belt, but every once in a while I forget. You do too whether or not you will admit it here.

I absolutely do not forget. Ever. If I did forget occasionally, I would have no problem admitting it (I've admitted plenty of worse things here). But it quite simply does not happen.

[Phatscotty]

yeah, what edo said.