Conquer Club

Sierra_Leon wrote:We all no Clive is not a mafia all-star, let's drop that subject because it's distracting everyone from the main discussion. Alright?

Pancake is an experienced mafia player who can definitaly be a big help to the town if he's not scum, so I don't support lynching him just because he's a bit low on free time.

Pancake, if you can find the time to do so: would you please tell us which us these four persons..

2) CrabNebula 2.0 (replaces) Russianfire
13) F1fth
14) Lord Voldemort
26) koesen 2.0 (replaces) lalaland 2.0 (replaces) willis

.. you think is most likely scum and why? And which is most likely town and why?

I understand why I am included on that list, but I don't understand why you chose to leave out some names: yours, diddle's and Clive's. Never mind the fact that PCM could be too. I'm not saying I suspect any of these people more than the others, but it's definitely possible that one of these people could be scum.

Clive some people may have cleared you, SL, but I haven't. The only evidence we had of your townieness was that RD tried to roleplay what she said was her role, and AD said that she was probably a town role. But if you'll remember, AD was a mafia GF and someone familiar to the show like AD or RD could have enacted a role they didn't have. It'd be a good way to claim without claiming because someone who doesn't know how the characters act couldn't counterclaim it.

But like I said, I don't necessarily suspect you more because of this. I'm just open to the possibilities.

F1fth wrote:

Sierra_Leon wrote:We all no Clive is not a mafia all-star, let's drop that subject because it's distracting everyone from the main discussion. Alright?

Pancake is an experienced mafia player who can definitaly be a big help to the town if he's not scum, so I don't support lynching him just because he's a bit low on free time.

Pancake, if you can find the time to do so: would you please tell us which us these four persons..

2) CrabNebula 2.0 (replaces) Russianfire
13) F1fth
14) Lord Voldemort
26) koesen 2.0 (replaces) lalaland 2.0 (replaces) willis

.. you think is most likely scum and why? And which is most likely town and why?

I understand why I am included on that list, but I don't understand why you chose to leave out some names: yours, diddle's and Clive's. Never mind the fact that PCM could be too. I'm not saying I suspect any of these people more than the others, but it's definitely possible that one of these people could be scum.

Clive some people may have cleared you, SL, but I haven't. The only evidence we had of your townieness was that RD tried to roleplay what she said was her role, and AD said that she was probably a town role. But if you'll remember, AD was a mafia GF and someone familiar to the show like AD or RD could have enacted a role they didn't have. It'd be a good way to claim without claiming because someone who doesn't know how the characters act couldn't counterclaim it.

But like I said, I don't necessarily suspect you more because of this. I'm just open to the possibilities.

I'm not going to ask PCM whether or not he thinks he's scum. That would be silly. I left out my name because I know I'm not scum, so I'm not very interested in hearing what he has to say about that. I left out clive and diddle for the same reason I left out the other people not on the list: I don't count them among the prime suspects.

There's nothing stopping you from answering the same question I asked pancake with whatever list you want, so go right ahead if you feel like it.

1st off no I didn't get a package. 2nd yes I unfortunately took the bribe to kill him. I had turned down the previous bribes, but thought getting the bribe this late that maybe it was from the cop trying to kill off someone he found to be scum without making himself become clear.

Sierra_Leon wrote:We all no Clive is not a mafia all-star, let's drop that subject because it's distracting everyone from the main discussion. Alright?

Pancake is an experienced mafia player who can definitaly be a big help to the town if he's not scum, so I don't support lynching him just because he's a bit low on free time.

Pancake, if you can find the time to do so: would you please tell us which us these four persons..

2) CrabNebula 2.0 (replaces) Russianfire
13) F1fth
14) Lord Voldemort
26) koesen 2.0 (replaces) lalaland 2.0 (replaces) willis

.. you think is most likely scum and why? And which is most likely town and why?

Koesen is (of that list) the scummiest. Often I find that the people who lead the lynch mob are scum more often than not to make themselves look more protown. I don't have any really strong vibes going the other way, but if I had to pick, I'd say 5th.

Let me also just point out that I don't like when people say "I know I'm town/not scum." It just raises my suspicion of them.

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:1st off no I didn't get a package.

Are you absolutely sure you didn't receive anything from one of the other players? I'm not necessarily talking about this night, but you really should have been given a message that one of the other characters, whose name was mentioned to you, gave you something, and I would really like you to confirm what it was.

For clarity's sake: I already know what it was, because I'm the one who gave it to you. And if you really don't know what I'm talking about, you're not Wild Bill Hickock.

Since there's a possibility that you just forgot about it, and since so far you seemed town, I'm not going to vote for you just yet, but if you can't confirm what you got (and how about you give me the first name of my character as well, so we can be sure you're not just guessing), I will vote for you.

Just a heads up that my activity will be a bit less for the next three days.

pancakemix wrote:

Sierra_Leon wrote:We all no Clive is not a mafia all-star, let's drop that subject because it's distracting everyone from the main discussion. Alright?

Pancake is an experienced mafia player who can definitaly be a big help to the town if he's not scum, so I don't support lynching him just because he's a bit low on free time.

Pancake, if you can find the time to do so: would you please tell us which us these four persons..

2) CrabNebula 2.0 (replaces) Russianfire
13) F1fth
14) Lord Voldemort
26) koesen 2.0 (replaces) lalaland 2.0 (replaces) willis

.. you think is most likely scum and why? And which is most likely town and why?

Koesen is (of that list) the scummiest. Often I find that the people who lead the lynch mob are scum more often than not to make themselves look more protown.

Which of the lynches in this game would you say were lead by me?

I didn't lynch Clive 1.0. I was hardly the first to vote for brown, nor did I actively push anyone into jumping that bandwagon. Cena only got my vote after he blew his fake claim and the same goes for Talapus.

Methinks you are skimming. I'll admit I haven't been cleared, but people who insist my behavior in this game is scummy, are missing several points all at once.

I am 100% positive that I have not received a package or name from any other player. Why that may be I do not know. You may want to ask our mod about that. It may be possible that our mod forgot to send it, but I do not know. If it went through before I took over though, the mod forgot to tell me.

No, this should have been after you took over. I'll ask Gimpy before jumping to conclusions.

Well? What was gimpy's verdict?

None yet. He has yet to log in, read my PM and answer.

Got an answer from Gimpy. It looks like LSU overlooked part of his PM, so I'll give him one more chance, because I think he just got it again.

I had little or no reason to doubt LSU is Wild Bill, but his hit on Serbia made me doubt, and so I thought I should check if he knew something Wild Bill should know.

I have similar behind the scene communications with other garantueed pro townies, by the way They'll allow me to verify certain claims.

i did. 1 gold was the gift

Okay. I thought you were Wild Bill, but you made me doubt for a minute

The point of the gift was not to make you rich, by the way, but to verify your and other people's claims

Koesen wrote:

pancakemix wrote:

Sierra_Leon wrote:We all no Clive is not a mafia all-star, let's drop that subject because it's distracting everyone from the main discussion. Alright?

Pancake is an experienced mafia player who can definitaly be a big help to the town if he's not scum, so I don't support lynching him just because he's a bit low on free time.

Pancake, if you can find the time to do so: would you please tell us which us these four persons..

2) CrabNebula 2.0 (replaces) Russianfire
13) F1fth
14) Lord Voldemort
26) koesen 2.0 (replaces) lalaland 2.0 (replaces) willis

.. you think is most likely scum and why? And which is most likely town and why?

Koesen is (of that list) the scummiest. Often I find that the people who lead the lynch mob are scum more often than not to make themselves look more protown.

Which of the lynches in this game would you say were lead by me?

I didn't lynch Clive 1.0. I was hardly the first to vote for brown, nor did I actively push anyone into jumping that bandwagon. Cena only got my vote after he blew his fake claim and the same goes for Talapus.

Methinks you are skimming. I'll admit I haven't been cleared, but people who insist my behavior in this game is scummy, are missing several points all at once.

But you WERE going all out earlier. That doesn't mean the people you pushed to lynch were lynched, it just means you were the one trying to pass everyone through holy fire.

So? That's how you get information. Information is good for town.

Has PCM been proven to be town? I believe not!

Koesen wrote:So? That's how you get information. Information is good for town.

And wouldn't it be a good idea for scum find all the bad info, possibly even false leads so that he's the image of perfection and when it's down to the wire, use this to his advantage?

I'm a seasoned veteran. I've seen it countless times. Not all info is good info.

LV is being very quiet.

We're getting close to deadline now I think, I think pancake would be a good lynch, or poss Lovo cos he's submarining.

72 hours left

11 alive, 6 to lynch

pancakemix wrote:Not all info is good info.

Absence of information is always bad for town and good for scum. That's why scum has the advantage in the beginning: because they know stuff and town doesn't. Anyone who wants to keep it that way, is either not such a seasoned veteran after all, or suspicious.

Koesen wrote:

pancakemix wrote:Not all info is good info.

Absence of information is always bad for town and good for scum. That's why scum has the advantage in the beginning: because they know stuff and town doesn't. Anyone who wants to keep it that way, is either not such a seasoned veteran after all, or suspicious.

I never said we shouldn't have info. And as you just said, scum know more at the start. So wouldn't they love to dig up all the unnecessary drivel that will end up screwing the town.

I also like how you disregarded more than half my post, apparently.

Clive wrote:LV is being very quiet.

We're getting close to deadline now I think, I think pancake would be a good lynch, or poss Lovo cos he's submarining.

no just had a massive weekend and havent checked back in yet.
check day 2, 3, 4 and the early part of today. im quite active

Clive wrote:LV is being very quiet.

We're getting close to deadline now I think, I think pancake would be a good lynch, or poss Lovo cos he's submarining.

Vote Clive

LoVo has just said he's had a busy weekend, and there is no way that Pancake would be a good lynch, he's experienced and active, and on top of that, has done nothing remotely scummy. Thats a stupid plan.

pancakemix wrote:

Koesen wrote:

pancakemix wrote:

Sierra_Leon wrote:We all no Clive is not a mafia all-star, let's drop that subject because it's distracting everyone from the main discussion. Alright?

Pancake is an experienced mafia player who can definitaly be a big help to the town if he's not scum, so I don't support lynching him just because he's a bit low on free time.

Pancake, if you can find the time to do so: would you please tell us which us these four persons..

2) CrabNebula 2.0 (replaces) Russianfire
13) F1fth
14) Lord Voldemort
26) koesen 2.0 (replaces) lalaland 2.0 (replaces) willis

.. you think is most likely scum and why? And which is most likely town and why?

Koesen is (of that list) the scummiest. Often I find that the people who lead the lynch mob are scum more often than not to make themselves look more protown.

Which of the lynches in this game would you say were lead by me?

I didn't lynch Clive 1.0. I was hardly the first to vote for brown, nor did I actively push anyone into jumping that bandwagon. Cena only got my vote after he blew his fake claim and the same goes for Talapus.

Methinks you are skimming. I'll admit I haven't been cleared, but people who insist my behavior in this game is scummy, are missing several points all at once.

But you WERE going all out earlier. That doesn't mean the people you pushed to lynch were lynched, it just means you were the one trying to pass everyone through holy fire.

I don't think there's anything wrong with pressuring people, as long as there are good arguments. I don't have the time right now to read back and see exactly where Koesen did this, but I don't recall him leading the lynch mob really.

pancakemix wrote:

Koesen wrote:So? That's how you get information. Information is good for town.

And wouldn't it be a good idea for scum find all the bad info, possibly even false leads so that he's the image of perfection and when it's down to the wire, use this to his advantage?

I'm a seasoned veteran. I've seen it countless times. Not all info is good info.

I agree with this. Koesen verifying that LSU is really Wild Bill doesn't say anything about his alignment. Also, I'd like to note that it doesn't say anything about LSU's alignment: I'm still suspicious of him being the Serial Killer.


What I would like to see happen is that all of the following people claim their character name:

13) F1fth
3) pancake (replaces) JND
26) koesen 2.0 (replaces) lalaland 2.0 (replaces) willis
2) CrabNebula 2.0 (replaces) Russianfire
14) Lord Voldemort
7) Clive 2.0(replces) TWO
1) Iliad

Preferably in that order (F1fth first, Iliad last). Character names only, roles are not neceressary. We could then use Koesen's gift-method to test their claims. I'll claim too of course, so you can test my claim as well. And don't give me that crap about mass-claiming not being the spirit of the game again. We're far enough into the game by now and this would help greatly in discovering mafia.