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jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Poor Asian countries, being used as pawns by America in their imperial war games.

Hopefully China will grow strong enough to rise up and liberate its neighbors from their American puppet masters!


LOL

Is that what the people of Japan and the Philippines want?

LOL


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So the majority population of Japan and Philippines are just ignorant crack whores who don't know better?

Funny thing is, about the bolded part, is that Imperial Japan had a very similar propaganda line like that. What time period was that? Oh, from about the 1930s to 1945. Perhaps starting a bit earlier.
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jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Poor Asian countries, being used as pawns by America in their imperial war games.

Hopefully China will grow strong enough to rise up and liberate its neighbors from their American puppet masters!


LOL

Is that what the people of Japan and the Philippines want?

LOL


A crack whore spends most of her time looking forward to her next hit, but if you can get her off the drugs then she will be grateful to you for doing so.


So the majority population of Japan and Philippines are just ignorant crack whores who don't know better?


They are addicted to something which is bad for them.
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Democracy? Freedom of speech? (In Japan's case) constantly coming up with new and imaginative inventions that constantly revolutionize modern technology?

Or does it have to be Chinese where if it isn't directly stolen, it's a cheap knock off?
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muy_thaiguy wrote:Democracy? Freedom of speech?


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mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
jimboston wrote:
mrswdk wrote:Poor Asian countries, being used as pawns by America in their imperial war games.

Hopefully China will grow strong enough to rise up and liberate its neighbors from their American puppet masters!


LOL

Is that what the people of Japan and the Philippines want?

LOL


A crack whore spends most of her time looking forward to her next hit, but if you can get her off the drugs then she will be grateful to you for doing so.


So the majority population of Japan and Philippines are just ignorant crack whores who don't know better?



They are addicted to something which is bad for them.



So they should give up crack for heroin?
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mrswdk wrote:I'm having to turn off my music for this shit you know.

'Which makes sense because the US was never trying to provoke China in the first place.'

And you ask why I don't bother watching videos by that guy.

Sometimes i wonder if you recognized the fact that he was being sarcastic about it 30 seconds later. Or maybe thats why you don't like him... Your sense of humor just doesn't click. (But within the humor he's still a good watch so... Have fun using that as an excuse.)
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China can not afford to make mistakes with the US or any of the nations in Southeast Asia
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muy_thaiguy wrote:
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muy_thaiguy wrote:His latest video, and only 4 minutes 11 seconds long! Surely mrswdk can take less than 5 minutes out of her Xi worshiping to watch such a short video, right?

Is he making videos about Russia to?

Only when it relates to China.

Most of his videos are that Chinese are weaklings... I presume that's the reason.

Generally China is far from equal match for US, but if Russia intervenes on Chinese side its completely different story :)
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rishaed wrote:
mrswdk wrote:I'm having to turn off my music for this shit you know.

'Which makes sense because the US was never trying to provoke China in the first place.'

And you ask why I don't bother watching videos by that guy.

Sometimes i wonder if you recognized the fact that he was being sarcastic about it 30 seconds later. Or maybe thats why you don't like him... Your sense of humor just doesn't click. (But within the humor he's still a good watch so... Have fun using that as an excuse.)


I didn't watch past that point.
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Crews of China and US destroyers become best buddies after contentious South China Sea patrol near artificial islands

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With all the hardline rhetoric -- including warnings of war -- coming from U.S. and Chinese officials before and after the much anticipated Oct. 27 patrol of a U.S. destroyer near some artificial islands built by China in the South China, gotta admit, it's refreshing to learn that the sailors involved in the mission may have become lifelong friends.

According to Reuters, the relationship started out a little rocky, once the USS Lassen sailed inside the 12 nautical mile zone that China claims around its artificial islands, the vessel was immediately hailed by a Chinese destroyer, demanding to know:

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

The Lassen was participating in a much publicized freedom-of-navigation exercise directed at challenging China's controversial claims in the disputed South China Sea. Rather than directly say that, the American sailors replied that they were operating in accordance with international law, and intended to transit past the island. Thanks for asking.

In response, the Chinese destroyer seems to have gotten somewhat tongue tied and just continued to persist in asking the same question over and over again:

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

As hard as it is to believe, this was apparently the start of a beautiful friendship. For the following ten days, the Chinese warship continued to tail the Lassen through the South China Sea. As boredom set in, the two got to know each other a little better.

The commanding officer of the Lassen, Commander Robert Francis, told Reuters:

"A few weeks ago we were talking to one of the ships that was accompanying us, a Chinese vessel ... (We) picked up the phone and just talked to him like, 'Hey, what are you guys doing this Saturday? Oh, we got pizza and wings. What are you guys eating? Oh, we're doing this. Hey, we're planning for Halloween as well'." The intent, Francis said, is "to show them ... that we're normal sailors, just like them, have families, just like them."

The Chinese sailors, speaking in English, responded by talking about where they were from, their families and places they have visited, Francis said.


Of course, this bromance couldn't last forever and eventually the Chinese destroyer had to leave. Parting is such sweet sorrow.

"They were very cordial the entire time ... even before and after the Spratly islands transit," Francis said. "When they left us they said, 'Hey, we're not going to be with you anymore. Wish you a pleasant voyage. Hope to see you again'."


http://shanghaiist.com/2015/11/06/china ... riends.php
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mrswdk wrote:
Crews of China and US destroyers become best buddies after contentious South China Sea patrol near artificial islands

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With all the hardline rhetoric -- including warnings of war -- coming from U.S. and Chinese officials before and after the much anticipated Oct. 27 patrol of a U.S. destroyer near some artificial islands built by China in the South China, gotta admit, it's refreshing to learn that the sailors involved in the mission may have become lifelong friends.

According to Reuters, the relationship started out a little rocky, once the USS Lassen sailed inside the 12 nautical mile zone that China claims around its artificial islands, the vessel was immediately hailed by a Chinese destroyer, demanding to know:

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

The Lassen was participating in a much publicized freedom-of-navigation exercise directed at challenging China's controversial claims in the disputed South China Sea. Rather than directly say that, the American sailors replied that they were operating in accordance with international law, and intended to transit past the island. Thanks for asking.

In response, the Chinese destroyer seems to have gotten somewhat tongue tied and just continued to persist in asking the same question over and over again:

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

"Hey, you are in Chinese waters. What is your intention?"

As hard as it is to believe, this was apparently the start of a beautiful friendship. For the following ten days, the Chinese warship continued to tail the Lassen through the South China Sea. As boredom set in, the two got to know each other a little better.

The commanding officer of the Lassen, Commander Robert Francis, told Reuters:

"A few weeks ago we were talking to one of the ships that was accompanying us, a Chinese vessel ... (We) picked up the phone and just talked to him like, 'Hey, what are you guys doing this Saturday? Oh, we got pizza and wings. What are you guys eating? Oh, we're doing this. Hey, we're planning for Halloween as well'." The intent, Francis said, is "to show them ... that we're normal sailors, just like them, have families, just like them."

The Chinese sailors, speaking in English, responded by talking about where they were from, their families and places they have visited, Francis said.


Of course, this bromance couldn't last forever and eventually the Chinese destroyer had to leave. Parting is such sweet sorrow.

"They were very cordial the entire time ... even before and after the Spratly islands transit," Francis said. "When they left us they said, 'Hey, we're not going to be with you anymore. Wish you a pleasant voyage. Hope to see you again'."


http://shanghaiist.com/2015/11/06/china ... riends.php

So, they're not sowing discord after all?
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A burglar who comes into my kitchen and starts talking to me about sports is still a burglar.
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China can't do anything about the American Navy going about it's business in keeping the world's sea lanes open.

Outside of starting a nuclear war, China's navy is no match to America's navy.

China is not going to start a war with America, especially when China knows for a fact that they are doing an illegal land grab. America will continue their build up in the South Sea.
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Bernie Sanders wrote:China can't do anything about the American Navy going about it's business in keeping the world's sea lanes open.


Yeah, because China is really going to close sea lanes that are vital to its capacity to trade with Europe, the Middle East, Africa and India.

Just keep on swallowing, Bern. Mr President's been eating a lot of pineapple recently!
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mrswdk wrote:
Bernie Sanders wrote:China can't do anything about the American Navy going about it's business in keeping the world's sea lanes open.


Yeah, because China is really going to close sea lanes that are vital to its capacity to trade with Europe, the Middle East, Africa and India.

Just keep on swallowing, Bern. Mr President's been eating a lot of pineapple recently!



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mrswdk wrote:A burglar who comes into my kitchen and starts talking to me about sports is still a burglar.

I'm pretty sure you mentioned that you live in the UK... So... The analogy better goes like this:
I come home to find a burglar watching TV in my house, and we start chatting about the game. Doesn't change the fact that hes a burglar.
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rishaed wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A burglar who comes into my kitchen and starts talking to me about sports is still a burglar.

I'm pretty sure you mentioned that you live in the UK... So... The analogy better goes like this:
I come home to find a burglar watching TV in my house, and we start chatting about the game. Doesn't change the fact that hes a burglar.

Chinese way... I come home to find a burglar watching TV in my house, I take my gun and I start shooting at him with a goal to chase him away or kill him. Or better said "Once you illegally enter into someones property your right for life is no longer guaranteed".
I personally like the Chinese way, it demonstrates to every burglar what will happen.
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GoranZ wrote:
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mrswdk wrote:A burglar who comes into my kitchen and starts talking to me about sports is still a burglar.

I'm pretty sure you mentioned that you live in the UK... So... The analogy better goes like this:
I come home to find a burglar watching TV in my house, and we start chatting about the game. Doesn't change the fact that hes a burglar.

Chinese way... I come home to find a burglar watching TV in my house, I take my gun and I start shooting at him with a goal to chase him away or kill him. Or better said "Once you illegally enter into someones property your right for life is no longer guaranteed".
I personally like the Chinese way, it demonstrates to every burglar what will happen.

I'm pretty sure thats the "Your Home is your Castle" Law here. Aka. Its pretty standard, but I was making a counter analogy not meant to be taken literally as applied to burglars and home owners.

Also Guns are illegal in China as is Reincarnation, Death, Accidently Getting Pregnant, Criticizing the Government, Spreading Rumors, Practicing Falun Gong, Not going to State Run Churches, Owning Property, ect.
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A counter analogy? It was basically the exact same analogy that I made, except you reworded it a bit and added a TV.
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rishaed wrote:Also Guns are illegal in China as is Reincarnation, Death, Accidently Getting Pregnant, Criticizing the Government, Spreading Rumors, Practicing Falun Gong, Not going to State Run Churches, Owning Property, ect.


You really are off the scale, aren't you?
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mrswdk wrote:
rishaed wrote:Also Guns are illegal in China as is Reincarnation, Death, Accidently Getting Pregnant, Criticizing the Government, Spreading Rumors, Practicing Falun Gong, Not going to State Run Churches, Owning Property, ect.


You really are off the scale, aren't you?

Nope. I'm just stating some facts. Also for all their control they can't get rid of their giant gerbil problem and the pollution in their country, as well as having a huge explosion at a toxic warehouse from which they forced all new agencies to run state run news and thus report it late instead of at a decent time on that day or the day following.
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rishaed wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
rishaed wrote:Also Guns are illegal in China as is Reincarnation, Death, Accidently Getting Pregnant, Criticizing the Government, Spreading Rumors, Practicing Falun Gong, Not going to State Run Churches, Owning Property, ect.


You really are off the scale, aren't you?

Nope. I'm just stating some facts. Also for all their control they can't get rid of their giant gerbil problem and the pollution in their country, as well as having a huge explosion at a toxic warehouse from which they forced all new agencies to run state run news and thus report it late instead of at a decent time on that day or the day following.


Giant gerbils and no one is allowed to own property. I think you have got China confused with Terry Gilliam's dystopian thriller Brazil.
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rishaed wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A burglar who comes into my kitchen and starts talking to me about sports is still a burglar.

I'm pretty sure you mentioned that you live in the UK... So... The analogy better goes like this:
I come home to find a burglar watching TV in my house, and we start chatting about the game. Doesn't change the fact that hes a burglar.


Bad analogy.

Those sea lanes the US boats were passing through were International Waters.

So the better analogy is...

I come home and see a guy walking on the public sidewalk in front of my house. We start talking about the game. It doesn't change the fact that he's still standing on a public sidewalk. :)
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GoranZ wrote:
rishaed wrote:
mrswdk wrote:A burglar who comes into my kitchen and starts talking to me about sports is still a burglar.

I'm pretty sure you mentioned that you live in the UK... So... The analogy better goes like this:
I come home to find a burglar watching TV in my house, and we start chatting about the game. Doesn't change the fact that hes a burglar.

Chinese way... I come home to find a burglar watching TV in my house, I take my gun and I start shooting at him with a goal to chase him away or kill him. Or better said "Once you illegally enter into someones property your right for life is no longer guaranteed".
I personally like the Chinese way, it demonstrates to every burglar what will happen.


Sorry Goran, but the Chinese government does not allow private citizens to own guns. Please do some research before you waste CC cyber space.
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mrswdk wrote:
rishaed wrote:
mrswdk wrote:
rishaed wrote:Also Guns are illegal in China as is Reincarnation, Death, Accidently Getting Pregnant, Criticizing the Government, Spreading Rumors, Practicing Falun Gong, Not going to State Run Churches, Owning Property, ect.


You really are off the scale, aren't you?

Nope. I'm just stating some facts. Also for all their control they can't get rid of their giant gerbil problem and the pollution in their country, as well as having a huge explosion at a toxic warehouse from which they forced all new agencies to run state run news and thus report it late instead of at a decent time on that day or the day following.


Giant gerbils and no one is allowed to own property. I think you have got China confused with Terry Gilliam's dystopian thriller Brazil.


There you go for the gerbils, also Technically the State owns the land in china (according to the CCP) so make the right guan xi and do the right things and you can have the current residents evicted by the state for you! So no. You CAN"T own land in China.
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