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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:48 pm
by Keefie
Indeed quite a lot of the 'no changes' have changed.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:49 pm
by Sniper08
Swifte wrote:should check your +/- column... even after adjusting for removing THOTA it seems we (IA) should be +1 for passing AOC?
yea same here Pack went from 6th to 2nd yet it says we only went up +3
thx gunn for keeping up with the rankings.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:54 pm
by Swifte
Sniper08 wrote:Swifte wrote:should check your +/- column... even after adjusting for removing THOTA it seems we (IA) should be +1 for passing AOC?
yea same here Pack went from 6th to 2nd yet it says we only went up +3
thx gunn for keeping up with the rankings.
I assume Pack is only +3 because of an adjustment for the removal of THOTA, but I could be wrong. Otherwise every clan that was previously below THOTA would have shown up as +1 even if there was no change... however it doesn't seem like the adjustment worked everywhere? guess we need to hear from Gunn what the real intent was.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 1:57 pm
by MudPuppy
Based on the ratings, it looks like:
- LHDD & FOED should be tied for 10th;
- BOTFM, DYN, & ID should be tied for 12th;
- LOW should be in 15th;
- GR & TFFS should be tied for 22nd;
- G1 should be in 25th; and
- AOD & TLW should be tied for 32nd
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:26 pm
by IcePack
I still don't see KOA vs TFFS?
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:30 pm
by IcePack
IcePack wrote:I still don't see KOA vs TFFS?
KOZ TFFS 28 23 04/08/12
Wrong abbreviation, needs to be corrected to count. KOA*
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:34 pm
by hotfire
the 11 thru 16 rank area looks labeled wrong
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:39 pm
by Leehar
hotfire wrote:the 11 thru 16 rank area looks labeled wrong
Again, thats the whole Thota thing. A line was removed, but unfortunately the results weren't auto-corrected.
See what happens when the Dispatch doesn't release it first!
(jk)
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 2:54 pm
by Gunn217
I told you to let me know if you wanted it, Leehar. I'm not going to do it early and do a column on it if you aren't going to use it.
The +/- column rarely works right. If I go back and change something or correct something it scews the +/- so it really should be eliminated entirely. Just look at the previous month.
If the numbers are incorrect, I just deleted a whole line instead of just the cells, my mistake. I don't remove defunct clans because it would take forever. I just delete them.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:15 pm
by benga
why the 4 way war isn't accounted for????
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 3:15 pm
by Gunn217
Should be corrected now.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:36 pm
by josko.ri
I think you have one mistake with KORT, best beat in 1 Year is 1418 TSM, and not 1351 EMP.
For me it is weird that KORT's beat TSM 35-25 lead to point loose from 1436 to 1400. but I know you do not know about how ranking works, you just put database into the scoring system frame. Did you deleted THOTA results? if you did, that may be reason. rankings works correct if all results are there, even the ones who are retired, because it affects score of clans who played vs them.
I also regret that CL4 phase 1 results counted on 1st April, not at least 1 day before. if it was included in March rankings, then the Draw for CC3 would be much more reliable on current rankings than it is now. as we did not have it included, and majority of May rankings changes are from CL4, it now happens that #1,2,3 are on the same side of draw, and #2,3 meet each other early in quarterfinals.
Thanks Gunn for keeping this updated

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 5:47 pm
by betiko
second? woot woot!!! things are tight from 2nd to 6th and kort is way ahead on first place..
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 01, 2012 6:16 pm
by Gunn217
I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 12:55 am
by Bruceswar
Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 1:28 am
by Chariot of Fire
Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
A PM went out to all clans asking whether KORT should be handicapped or not and by how many points. The highest & lowest figures were discarded and a mean average taken of the remainder. Some felt you should be given points, the majority felt you should be docked them.
This is a new monthly procedure for the gratification of all participating clans.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:01 am
by Bruceswar
Chariot of Fire wrote:Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
A PM went out to all clans asking whether KORT should be handicapped or not and by how many points. The highest & lowest figures were discarded and a mean average taken of the remainder. Some felt you should be given points, the majority felt you should be docked them.
This is a new monthly procedure for the gratification of all participating clans.
LOL

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:05 am
by Chariot of Fire
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Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 4:23 am
by lynch5762
Bruceswar wrote:Chariot of Fire wrote:Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
A PM went out to all clans asking whether KORT should be handicapped or not and by how many points. The highest & lowest figures were discarded and a mean average taken of the remainder. Some felt you should be given points, the majority felt you should be docked them.
This is a new monthly procedure for the gratification of all participating clans.
LOL

Did you not get the memo Brucey? I imagine that many items pass your desk now as the HCD..

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 8:24 am
by Leehar
Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
More likely because your win over thota counted more last year and because it's also passed the year mark it's weighting got halved?
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:37 pm
by Foxglove
Leehar wrote:Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
More likely because your win over thota counted more last year and because it's also passed the year mark it's weighting got halved?
Stop being so reasonable, Leehar - I much prefer CoF's explanation.

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Tue May 08, 2012 3:43 pm
by Leehar
Foxglove wrote:Leehar wrote:Bruceswar wrote:Gunn217 wrote:I thought the same thing,Josko, so I don't delete anyone front the database. I remove the defunct clans from the final ranking. I have zero idea how it tabulates what the best showing for the last year is. To me, it's unimportant.
Can you then explain who we lost points after beating the then number 2 clan by a pretty good margin? Not that it matters, but would be nice to know.
More likely because your win over thota counted more last year and because it's also passed the year mark it's weighting got halved?
Stop being so reasonable, Leehar - I much prefer CoF's explanation.

I'm sure it still applies to the Power Rankings

Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:13 am
by benga
Can we get this war in the standings?
viewtopic.php?f=442&t=159827MB(22) v OSA(31) v HH(27) v TNC(28)
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:17 am
by Keefie
Benga,
I think Chemefreak warned us that it probably wouldn't be entered into the rankings.
Re: F400 Ranking [Updated 05-01-12]
Posted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:21 am
by benga
Keefie wrote:Benga,
I think Chemefreak warned us that it probably wouldn't be entered into the rankings.
So why is then CL in the rankings?