Conquer Cup I

[HighlanderAttack]

It'll be interesting to see how many games HA's 200th Tourney ends up being comprised of. There will possibly be a record there.

16402 played games so far

2507 actual participants if I remember correctly without looking it up

[Chariot of Fire]

It'll be interesting to see how many games HA's 200th Tourney ends up being comprised of. There will possibly be a record there.

16402 played games so far

2507 actual participants if I remember correctly without looking it up

holy crap that's impressive. the winner and organiser truly deserve a special medal, not one of these bogus ones that will get awarded to a lot of those who paid for the privilege.

[MoB Deadly]

I haven't read all those posts, way to many, but a lot of discension. the site is cool, the dice suck, the improvements are cool, (more would be cooler) capatalism sucks, the players - some cool and some suck, but let's all try to stay positive and supportive. Cynisism and negativity are the enemy. Oh and a personal request, I would like to seee an alternative to the random deal, maybe take turns picking regions pre-play, or even that election system, where you bid for regions. That's a whole other level of fun. To often the deal dictates. An alternative would be wonderful.

This sounds like a very good idea. I'd support it 100% if it were to be put in the suggestion part of forum.

It's already been suggested. Have to be reasonable though, could you imagine 8 players trying to play a game like this on a relatively big map?

Map = Random
Random = Hive

*shudders*

[jbrettlip]

Betting is allowed. There is a head to head challenge between two players with the loser having to buy the winner premium. Essentially gambling, but no one on this site cared when I raised the concern. So even though the rules say no betting, it is obviously going on here.

This is not real gambling. Buying a premium for someone u play against is not real gambling. Trust me--I used to be a real gambler--this anything this site has would never compare.

Loser buys winner premium....therefore lost something of value to the winner ($25). This is a BET, not a reward for winning a tourney. It is the same if I challenge someone to a 1 v 1 for $100. Just because the prize is through CC doesn't make it different. It just made it acceptable to Lack, Andy and the other mods who like to moderate to their own whims and not the rules.

[Gillipig]

When you search for conquer cup in "find a tournament" it says that conquer cup I is abandoned. And lack's name is crossed over. Is it abandoned ?

[AndyDufresne]

When you search for conquer cup in "find a tournament" it says that conquer cup I is abandoned. And lack's name is crossed over. Is it abandoned ?

No, it is just a work around I think using the Tournament Tool so it doesn't interfere with Community-Run Tournaments, the Tournament Page, and Stats.


--Andy

[Gillipig]

When you search for conquer cup in "find a tournament" it says that conquer cup I is abandoned. And lack's name is crossed over. Is it abandoned ?

No, it is just a work around I think using the Tournament Tool so it doesn't interfere with Community-Run Tournaments, the Tournament Page, and Stats.


--Andy

Good !
I think I found the hardest group in the cup! Game 9979916, average score of 2303. That's more than a thousand point per player more than this group for example : Game 9980018.

[AndyDufresne]

Good !
I think I found the hardest group in the cup! Game 9979916, average score of 2303. That's more than a thousand point per player more than this group for example : Game 9980018.

Yeah, there have been some tough draws, but overall it looks like a fair amount of balance in the games. There were a couple of games without officers, so a few players of Sarge or lower will make it past Round 1.


--Andy

[Dako]

Yes, I happened to be in a serious game :p.

[Lindax]

I'm very unhappy that the amount of players went from 6 to 5 in the games. I don;t think I would have joined had I known that beforehand. It's a different game now....

Lx

[Tupence]

I'm very unhappy that the amount of players went from 6 to 5 in the games. I don;t think I would have joined had I known that beforehand. It's a different game now....

Lx

Likewise. There should be refunds of credits/payment all round.

[Gillipig]

I don't think it should've been lowered at all. 1295 would've filled! Not in less than a week but it would've filled.

[gStrong]

Quick question, is the Cup game supposed to count as one of my four games? I understood that it would not so I joined the tournamet.

[Dako]

No, Cup games are joined by the system. However if you are below 4 games Cup might take the slot. But even if you have 4 games you will get cup as a 5th one for sure.

[Gillipig]

Quick question, is the Cup game supposed to count as one of my four games? I understood that it would not so I joined the tournamet.

"Premium Membership isn't necessary - you can still play Conquer Cup games even if you've reached the limit on active games"

I interpret this as a no to your question but if you want to make sure you can try to create some games and see when you're not able to create more games.

[gStrong]

Quick question, is the Cup game supposed to count as one of my four games? I understood that it would not so I joined the tournamet.

"Premium Membership isn't necessary - you can still play Conquer Cup games even if you've reached the limit on active games"

I interpret this as a no to your question but if you want to make sure you can try to create some games and see when you're not able to create more games.

Thanks for your reply, I did try to join a new game but I got the upgrate to premium message.

Can someone please confirm if my interprutation is correct. If so please explain why I can not join another game

[AndyDufresne]

Just to post here as well, Lack is on it and is looking into the bug: viewtopic.php?f=506&t=156271&start=0#p3425906


--Andy

[danfrank]

I haven't read all those posts, way to many, but a lot of discension. the site is cool, the dice suck, the improvements are cool, (more would be cooler) capatalism sucks, the players - some cool and some suck, but let's all try to stay positive and supportive. Cynisism and negativity are the enemy. Oh and a personal request, I would like to seee an alternative to the random deal, maybe take turns picking regions pre-play, or even that election system, where you bid for regions. That's a whole other level of fun. To often the deal dictates. An alternative would be wonderful.

This sounds like a very good idea. I'd support it 100% if it were to be put in the suggestion part of forum.

It's already been suggested. Have to be reasonable though, could you imagine 8 players trying to play a game like this on a relatively big map?

Thats why it should be an option

[danfrank]

well we all see what the five bucks is for , CC should have betaed there own tourney program first..

[HighlanderAttack]

Betting is allowed. There is a head to head challenge between two players with the loser having to buy the winner premium. Essentially gambling, but no one on this site cared when I raised the concern. So even though the rules say no betting, it is obviously going on here.

This is not real gambling. Buying a premium for someone u play against is not real gambling. Trust me--I used to be a real gambler--this anything this site has would never compare.

Loser buys winner premium....therefore lost something of value to the winner ($25). This is a BET, not a reward for winning a tourney. It is the same if I challenge someone to a 1 v 1 for $100. Just because the prize is through CC doesn't make it different. It just made it acceptable to Lack, Andy and the other mods who like to moderate to their own whims and not the rules.

you did not get my point--in reality if a penny was wagered it could be called a bet, but really?

[Qwert]

wow,you can all ready now registed for CC II.
These is great ,now lack can invest money 2 month in bank and get more cash before buy new Iphone for winner of CCII. Its look that lack hire Casino manager, so maybe we get more and more games where you can get real cash for prize.

[jbrettlip]

Betting is allowed. There is a head to head challenge between two players with the loser having to buy the winner premium. Essentially gambling, but no one on this site cared when I raised the concern. So even though the rules say no betting, it is obviously going on here.

This is not real gambling. Buying a premium for someone u play against is not real gambling. Trust me--I used to be a real gambler--this anything this site has would never compare.

Loser buys winner premium....therefore lost something of value to the winner ($25). This is a BET, not a reward for winning a tourney. It is the same if I challenge someone to a 1 v 1 for $100. Just because the prize is through CC doesn't make it different. It just made it acceptable to Lack, Andy and the other mods who like to moderate to their own whims and not the rules.

you did not get my point--in reality if a penny was wagered it could be called a bet, but really?

Yes, even a penny is a bet. And gambling is prohibited on this site. So you two can play head to head, or buy each other premiums all you want. But as soon as you make a condition of the challenge is winner gets premium from the loser, it is gambling and SHOULD be against the rules. Because it put money in Lack's pocket, he allowed it. Just more bullshit moderating.....

[Gillipig]

I haven't read all those posts, way to many, but a lot of discension. the site is cool, the dice suck, the improvements are cool, (more would be cooler) capatalism sucks, the players - some cool and some suck, but let's all try to stay positive and supportive. Cynisism and negativity are the enemy. Oh and a personal request, I would like to seee an alternative to the random deal, maybe take turns picking regions pre-play, or even that election system, where you bid for regions. That's a whole other level of fun. To often the deal dictates. An alternative would be wonderful.

This sounds like a very good idea. I'd support it 100% if it were to be put in the suggestion part of forum.

It's already been suggested. Have to be reasonable though, could you imagine 8 players trying to play a game like this on a relatively big map?

We could easily prevent it from being usable on maps where it would cause problems. including random. We could even limit it to 4 players or less if 8 players causes problems. Most people would use it for 1v1 only anyway. In a sense it's very much like manual troop deployment. It puts focus on preparation and strategy instead of luck. I'd also like to see the no dice option they have on majorcommand being incorporated into CC. With those two updates we could be playing games where a) dice doesn't matter. b) no unfair drops would occur. c) you can place all of your troops wherever you want. d) turn order doesn't matter (freestyle). In other words ultimate freedom and flexibility in terms of game options. If you lose you can't blame any element of luck for it. You lost because you where not as good as your opponent. And in games with more than 2 players diplomacy and truces would be even more important than it is today. I think that is the way to go for CC. To make this game more about skill and less about luck. Don't remove the luck factor for those that want to use it but give players that have played thousands of games and are tired of losing games because of elements they can't control a chance to hold their own fate. I would gladly pay twice the current premium membership fee if I got to play games like that!

[Tviorr]

Hmmm when I go look at Conquer Club I, the status says abandoned??

Is this correct?

[Bones2484]

Hmmm when I go look at Conquer Club I, the status says abandoned??

Is this correct?

When you search for conquer cup in "find a tournament" it says that conquer cup I is abandoned. And lack's name is crossed over. Is it abandoned ?

No, it is just a work around I think using the Tournament Tool so it doesn't interfere with Community-Run Tournaments, the Tournament Page, and Stats.


--Andy