Legend of Dragoon Mafia(Night 2-Master Down)

[kratos644]

well, if everyone else wants him that that much:

unvote vote irish tiger

i don't really have any reason for it. but then again, i don't have a reason not to.

Well we don't have a vote count yet... so I will temporarily Unvote
No need for a hammer before we at least have a claim...

[kratos644]

well, if everyone else wants him that that much:

unvote vote irish tiger

i don't really have any reason for it. but then again, i don't have a reason not to.

Well we don't have a vote count yet... so I will temporarily Unvote
No need for a hammer before we at least have a claim...

By my count we're at L-2 on Irish L-1 had I left my vote.

[zimmah]

well, if everyone else wants him that that much:

unvote vote irish tiger

i don't really have any reason for it. but then again, i don't have a reason not to.

Well we don't have a vote count yet... so I will temporarily Unvote
No need for a hammer before we at least have a claim...

By my count we're at L-2 on Irish L-1 had I left my vote.

really? didn't realise.

well, guess that's enough for a claim.

[chapcrap]

well, if everyone else wants him that that much:

unvote vote irish tiger

i don't really have any reason for it. but then again, i don't have a reason not to.

Well we don't have a vote count yet... so I will temporarily Unvote
No need for a hammer before we at least have a claim...

By my count we're at L-2 on Irish L-1 had I left my vote.

really? didn't realise.

well, guess that's enough for a claim.

It's enough to force the claim from a new guy, but not from icedagger when he was L-2? Silliness

[chapcrap]

well, if everyone else wants him that that much:

unvote vote irish tiger

i don't really have any reason for it. but then again, i don't have a reason not to.

Well we don't have a vote count yet... so I will temporarily Unvote
No need for a hammer before we at least have a claim...

By my count we're at L-2 on Irish L-1 had I left my vote.

really? didn't realise.

well, guess that's enough for a claim.

It's enough to force the claim from a new guy, but not from icedagger when he was L-2? Silliness

Also, I realize that new players might be good, but he's not just a new player, he's new to the whole site. 12 games played. He only has 3 total posts that aren't in this thread. I really think we should give him a little bit bigger leash and go for MoB Deadly instead.

[zimmah]

Well we don't have a vote count yet... so I will temporarily Unvote
No need for a hammer before we at least have a claim...

By my count we're at L-2 on Irish L-1 had I left my vote.

really? didn't realise.

well, guess that's enough for a claim.

It's enough to force the claim from a new guy, but not from icedagger when he was L-2? Silliness

Also, I realize that new players might be good, but he's not just a new player, he's new to the whole site. 12 games played. He only has 3 total posts that aren't in this thread. I really think we should give him a little bit bigger leash and go for MoB Deadly instead.

i don't understand you. first you almost force me to switch my vote from icedagger to irishtiger, and i keep telling you i think irish is just a noob, and ice was at L-2 and we should have just continued the pressure on him so he'd claim, and now i did chance my vote, and you're now saying to me that we should have pressures icedagger more?

what the f*** dude, are you even serious?

[chapcrap]

i don't understand you. first you almost force me to switch my vote from icedagger to irishtiger, and i keep telling you i think irish is just a noob, and ice was at L-2 and we should have just continued the pressure on him so he'd claim, and now i did chance my vote, and you're now saying to me that we should have pressures icedagger more?

what the f*** dude, are you even serious?

Pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. I have been against voting Irish from the beginning and I had my vote on icedagger until yesterday.

I'm not sure who you have me confused with, but I never said to vote Irish. I said he looked like a classic noob townie from the beginning.

[safariguy5]

i don't understand you. first you almost force me to switch my vote from icedagger to irishtiger, and i keep telling you i think irish is just a noob, and ice was at L-2 and we should have just continued the pressure on him so he'd claim, and now i did chance my vote, and you're now saying to me that we should have pressures icedagger more?

what the f*** dude, are you even serious?

Pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. I have been against voting Irish from the beginning and I had my vote on icedagger until yesterday.

I'm not sure who you have me confused with, but I never said to vote Irish. I said he looked like a classic noob townie from the beginning.

Well we picked a target and I'd like to hear a claim. We can revisit the Mob thing tomorrow.

[chapcrap]

i don't understand you. first you almost force me to switch my vote from icedagger to irishtiger, and i keep telling you i think irish is just a noob, and ice was at L-2 and we should have just continued the pressure on him so he'd claim, and now i did chance my vote, and you're now saying to me that we should have pressures icedagger more?

what the f*** dude, are you even serious?

Pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. I have been against voting Irish from the beginning and I had my vote on icedagger until yesterday.

I'm not sure who you have me confused with, but I never said to vote Irish. I said he looked like a classic noob townie from the beginning.

Well we picked a target and I'd like to hear a claim. We can revisit the Mob thing tomorrow.

It doesn't sound like you wanna hear a claim. It sounds like you're ready for a lynch. Do you even care what he claims? You act like it doesn't matter to you. You act like he's getting lynched either way. FOS safari

[zimmah]

i don't understand you. first you almost force me to switch my vote from icedagger to irishtiger, and i keep telling you i think irish is just a noob, and ice was at L-2 and we should have just continued the pressure on him so he'd claim, and now i did chance my vote, and you're now saying to me that we should have pressures icedagger more?

what the f*** dude, are you even serious?

Pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. I have been against voting Irish from the beginning and I had my vote on icedagger until yesterday.

I'm not sure who you have me confused with, but I never said to vote Irish. I said he looked like a classic noob townie from the beginning.

well, i thought you called me silly for not wanting ice to claim with L-2. but actually that's not right because i don't really care who claims, as long as someone claims. and i don't understand all the fuzz around mob and irish (especialy irish).

[chapcrap]

i don't understand you. first you almost force me to switch my vote from icedagger to irishtiger, and i keep telling you i think irish is just a noob, and ice was at L-2 and we should have just continued the pressure on him so he'd claim, and now i did chance my vote, and you're now saying to me that we should have pressures icedagger more?

what the f*** dude, are you even serious?

Pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. I have been against voting Irish from the beginning and I had my vote on icedagger until yesterday.

I'm not sure who you have me confused with, but I never said to vote Irish. I said he looked like a classic noob townie from the beginning.

well, i thought you called me silly for not wanting ice to claim with L-2. but actually that's not right because i don't really care who claims, as long as someone claims. and i don't understand all the fuzz around mob and irish (especialy irish).

Well, I did think it was silly to not have ice claim when he was L-2. I guess not having Irish claim at L-2 would also be silly, but I just really don't think he's scum.

If you think MoB is more worthy of a vote than Irish, switch your vote. He seems way more scummy to me than Irish.

[safariguy5]

i don't understand you. first you almost force me to switch my vote from icedagger to irishtiger, and i keep telling you i think irish is just a noob, and ice was at L-2 and we should have just continued the pressure on him so he'd claim, and now i did chance my vote, and you're now saying to me that we should have pressures icedagger more?

what the f*** dude, are you even serious?

Pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. I have been against voting Irish from the beginning and I had my vote on icedagger until yesterday.

I'm not sure who you have me confused with, but I never said to vote Irish. I said he looked like a classic noob townie from the beginning.

Well we picked a target and I'd like to hear a claim. We can revisit the Mob thing tomorrow.

It doesn't sound like you wanna hear a claim. It sounds like you're ready for a lynch. Do you even care what he claims? You act like it doesn't matter to you. You act like he's getting lynched either way. FOS safari

Way to twist my words there chap, that's about as neutral a statement as it gets. Depending on what he claims, then we can decide whether or not we're going to lynch him. You'll remember that I didn't believe the ice case and therefore didn't call for a claim from him. I'm treating each case the same, pressure for a claim, then decide on legitimacy/wait for possible counterclaims.

[chapcrap]

i don't understand you. first you almost force me to switch my vote from icedagger to irishtiger, and i keep telling you i think irish is just a noob, and ice was at L-2 and we should have just continued the pressure on him so he'd claim, and now i did chance my vote, and you're now saying to me that we should have pressures icedagger more?

what the f*** dude, are you even serious?

Pretty sure you have me confused with someone else. I have been against voting Irish from the beginning and I had my vote on icedagger until yesterday.

I'm not sure who you have me confused with, but I never said to vote Irish. I said he looked like a classic noob townie from the beginning.

Well we picked a target and I'd like to hear a claim. We can revisit the Mob thing tomorrow.

It doesn't sound like you wanna hear a claim. It sounds like you're ready for a lynch. Do you even care what he claims? You act like it doesn't matter to you. You act like he's getting lynched either way. FOS safari

Way to twist my words there chap, that's about as neutral a statement as it gets. Depending on what he claims, then we can decide whether or not we're going to lynch him. You'll remember that I didn't believe the ice case and therefore didn't call for a claim from him. I'm treating each case the same, pressure for a claim, then decide on legitimacy/wait for possible counterclaims.

You just contradicted yourself. You said "I'm treating each case the same, pressure for a claim, then decide on legitimacy/wait for possible counterclaims" and right before that you said You'll remember that I didn't believe the ice case and therefore didn't call for a claim from him. You say that you are treating every case the same by pressuring for a claim and then deciding on legitmacy, but clearly that's not true. You did not pressure for a claim on icedagger even though he was at the same spot Irish Tiger is now.

I don't see how I'm twisting your words. I'm just taking what you say.

[safariguy5]

I didn't vote for icedagger. Why would I call for a claim on a case I didn't believe in? If I wanted him to claim, I would have voted for him.

[freezie]

I want to say that, personally, I didn't want ice to claim cause even from the get go I didn't strongly beleive in the case at hand, where I voted him. A few people followed ( MoB included, of course ) and I beleive that's a few votes of info, however, at the moment, I didn't beleive it. I haven't made my mind about Irish, either.... I stand my ground on MoB. Getting on the easy bandwaggon by hiding behind other people's words is far more than some weak day 1 suspscion, IMO.

[chapcrap]

I want to say that, personally, I didn't want ice to claim cause even from the get go I didn't strongly beleive in the case at hand, where I voted him. A few people followed ( MoB included, of course ) and I beleive that's a few votes of info, however, at the moment, I didn't beleive it. I haven't made my mind about Irish, either.... I stand my ground on MoB. Getting on the easy bandwaggon by hiding behind other people's words is far more than some weak day 1 suspscion, IMO.

+1

[shieldgenerator7]

Yeah I agree the case on icedagger wasn't all that strong, but MOB and Irish Tiger seem much more scummy. Perhaps we will lynch Irish no matter what he claims because we have the bandwagon on him right now but we'll see how it goes

[The Irish Tiger]

I'm not a newb to mafia, i've played countless other games on another site, and i regularly play epicmafia as well. I just can't get a grip on this game, probably becuase its a different forum with different people.

I have to be careful about what i say about my role, as giving it away will endanger other not just myself. Vote me off but you'd be better off killing a ranndomer than me, then theres only 1 death.

[MoB Deadly]

I'm not a newb to mafia, i've played countless other games on another site, and i regularly play epicmafia as well. I just can't get a grip on this game, probably becuase its a different forum with different people.

I guess that is understandable, I had some trouble wrapping my head around some new concepts on this forum. I obviously have a bit to learn as well because I frequently take heat D1, and there is no one to blame but myself for it. If you are bandwagoning someone people definitely expect a reason here. And my advice is that if it was brought to your attention, dont switch to another bandwagon again haha


I have to be careful about what i say about my role, as giving it away will endanger other not just myself. Vote me off but you'd be better off killing a ranndomer than me, then theres only 1 death.

Can anyone verify this?

[safariguy5]

I'm not a newb to mafia, i've played countless other games on another site, and i regularly play epicmafia as well. I just can't get a grip on this game, probably becuase its a different forum with different people.

I guess that is understandable, I had some trouble wrapping my head around some new concepts on this forum. I obviously have a bit to learn as well because I frequently take heat D1, and there is no one to blame but myself for it. If you are bandwagoning someone people definitely expect a reason here. And my advice is that if it was brought to your attention, dont switch to another bandwagon again haha


I have to be careful about what i say about my role, as giving it away will endanger other not just myself. Vote me off but you'd be better off killing a ranndomer than me, then theres only 1 death.

Can anyone verify this?

So he's softclaiming mason. That does make some sense given the theme of the game, and if we have someone step forward and claim mason partner, that could be pretty good evidence of clearing them.

[The Irish Tiger]

I'd rather not clear my buddy, as then he would get killed or i would. It's safer to just have one of us out in the open than having two of us out.

[Jace22]

who are you then?

[zimmah]

I'd rather not clear my buddy, as then he would get killed or i would. It's safer to just have one of us out in the open than having two of us out.

since mafia now each other, they know who's town anyway. even if you don't tell them, they are going to target you and your mason anyway.

the only reason you wouldn't want to tell who your mason buddy is, is if you're either 3rd party or scum.

[rdsrds2120]

I'd rather not clear my buddy, as then he would get killed or i would. It's safer to just have one of us out in the open than having two of us out.

Actually, Mafia would probably not want to kill you then. I'm sure they'd want to take a chance to kill a more powerful role than a mason, which doesn't really pose too much of a threat to them.

-rd

[safariguy5]

I'd rather not clear my buddy, as then he would get killed or i would. It's safer to just have one of us out in the open than having two of us out.

Actually, Mafia would probably not want to kill you then. I'm sure they'd want to take a chance to kill a more powerful role than a mason, which doesn't really pose too much of a threat to them.

-rd

Well they could be more than just masons. And mafia would probably prefer to kill cleared townies as it gives mafia a better shot at winning endgame.