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Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:11 pm
by jefjef
What stands out is North - South movement is very restricted/limited.

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:14 pm
by isaiah40
jefjef wrote:What stands out is North - South movement is very restricted/limited.


Okay do you have any suggestions on how too improve that?

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:15 pm
by jefjef
isaiah40 wrote:
jefjef wrote:What stands out is North - South movement is very restricted/limited.


Okay do you have any suggestions on how too improve that?


Well you have 3 North to south mainland paths and 2 South to North. Add a South to North to balance it.

Maybe a one way North from Shigatse or 2-way Nyingchi.

Also maybe extend the mountain barrier across the North border of Nepal and make that a deadend tert.

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:28 pm
by isaiah40
jefjef wrote:Well you have 3 North to south mainland paths and 2 South to North. Add a South to North to balance it.

Maybe a one way North from Shigatse or 2-way Nyingchi.

Also maybe extend the mountain barrier across the North border of Nepal and make that a deadend tert.


How about if I make the Nanning - Guangxi a two way?

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:35 pm
by jefjef
isaiah40 wrote:
jefjef wrote:Well you have 3 North to south mainland paths and 2 South to North. Add a South to North to balance it.

Maybe a one way North from Shigatse or 2-way Nyingchi.

Also maybe extend the mountain barrier across the North border of Nepal and make that a deadend tert.


How about if I make the Nanning - Guangxi a two way?


Well almost already have that with Kunming.

I also think looking at making a one way from Beijing across the wall worthwhile. The wall was made to stop invasion from the North but not to Keep China from attacking and that would that would help with flow in the top.

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:40 pm
by isaiah40
jefjef wrote:I also think looking at making a one way from Beijing across the wall worthwhile. The wall was made to stop invasion from the North but not to Keep China from attacking and that would that would help with flow in the top.


True, how about from Beijing to Hohhot?

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 3:57 pm
by jefjef
isaiah40 wrote:
jefjef wrote:I also think looking at making a one way from Beijing across the wall worthwhile. The wall was made to stop invasion from the North but not to Keep China from attacking and that would that would help with flow in the top.


True, how about from Beijing to Hohhot?


I like Beijing to Chifing a lot more.

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 1:05 am
by Joodoo
I feel like Taiwan shouldn't be able to one way attack Fujian. Instead, Fujian and Taiwan are capable of bombarding each other, which would reflect the tension between the CPC and KMT during the Cold War (First Taiwan Strait Crisis, Second Taiwan Strait Crisis, Third Taiwan Strait Crisis). Even though this is set in the future, it would be interesting to see a resurgence in that military tension between the two political entities in this map.

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:53 am
by isaiah40
Joodoo wrote:I feel like Taiwan shouldn't be able to one way attack Fujian. Instead, Fujian and Taiwan are capable of bombarding each other, which would reflect the tension between the CPC and KMT during the Cold War (First Taiwan Strait Crisis, Second Taiwan Strait Crisis, Third Taiwan Strait Crisis). Even though this is set in the future, it would be interesting to see a resurgence in that military tension between the two political entities in this map.


Okay, this can be done. So just so I have this right, you would like to see them BOMBARD each other and not ATTACK each other correct?

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:37 pm
by isaiah40
A couple of changes:

1) Reduced Mongolia from +6 to +5
2) Added one way attack from Beijing - Chifeng
3) Changed the attack route from Taiwan - Fujian to a bombardment between the two

[bigimg]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4319/fracturedchinav1m.png[/bigimg]

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 9:49 pm
by jefjef
Nice changes/additions. I still like another south to north attack route to balance it.

Did you look at/consider extending mountain barrier across Nepal tert North border?

The mountainous north has eight of the world's ten tallest mountains. Mnt Everest...

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:17 pm
by isaiah40
jefjef wrote:Nice changes/additions. I still like another south to north attack route to balance it.

Did you look at/consider extending mountain barrier across Nepal tert North border?

The mountainous north has eight of the world's ten tallest mountains. Mnt Everest...


Thank you. If anyone has any suggestions on another n-s attack route please let me know.

Yes I considered extending the mountains across Nepal's northern border, but I think it would create too much of a chokepoint which probably would not be a good idea.

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 10:37 pm
by jefjef
How about mountain between Nepal and Shigatse and open up Nepal to Ngari. I like that.

Re: Fractured China V.1k - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 6:34 am
by Joodoo
isaiah40 wrote:A couple of changes:

1) Reduced Mongolia from +6 to +5
2) Added one way attack from Beijing - Chifeng
3) Changed the attack route from Taiwan - Fujian to a bombardment between the two

[bigimg]http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/4319/fracturedchinav1m.png[/bigimg]


Looks nice :D

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:28 am
by jefjef
How about mountain between Nepal and Shigatse and open up Nepal to Ngari. That and a one way from Shagatse to Lhasa. I really like that.

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 8:36 am
by Industrial Helix
I rather like Tibet all closed up in the mountains.

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 1:38 pm
by isaiah40
I could possibly open up Ngari - Qeimo. Would that suffice? Personally, I like the fact that it is a little harder to get around. You have to think strategy on this one as far as I see there would be no easy way to eliminate an opponent in one fatal swoop without dividing your armies.

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 5:16 pm
by AndyDufresne
Industrial Helix wrote:I rather like Tibet all closed up in the mountains.

Agreed, yes.


--Andy

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 1:31 pm
by isaiah40
Any other thoughts, ideas, comments, suggestions?

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 5:10 pm
by Victor Sullivan
isaiah40 wrote:Any other thoughts, ideas, comments, suggestions?

I say ball it up and throw it in the trash,

Then get it out of the trash and un-crinkle it! What the hell did you do that for??? This is a great map!

:D Sully :D

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2011 6:53 pm
by 24Keyser
Victor Sullivan wrote:
isaiah40 wrote:Any other thoughts, ideas, comments, suggestions?

I say ball it up and throw it in the trash,

Then get it out of the trash and un-crinkle it! What the hell did you do that for??? This is a great map!

:D Sully :D


agreed

24Keyser

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 2:09 pm
by isaiah40
Okay after reexamining the game play, I thought I would redo the capital bonus. So you would now get +2 for 3, +5 for 5, +10 for 8 and then +14 for holding all of them.

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 4:19 pm
by Victor Sullivan
isaiah40 wrote:Okay after reexamining the game play, I thought I would redo the capital bonus. So you would now get +2 for 3, +5 for 5, +10 for 8 and then +14 for holding all of them.

Ah, good. I did think your increments were rather large. I forgot about that...

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:07 pm
by danfrank
i missed the poll and i vote yes.. :!:

Re: Fractured China V.1m - Still Game Play discussion!

Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2011 7:39 pm
by MarshalNey
isaiah40 wrote:Okay after reexamining the game play, I thought I would redo the capital bonus. So you would now get +2 for 3, +5 for 5, +10 for 8 and then +14 for holding all of them.


:D This makes me happy.

I have to say that I have very little to say. This might be due for a sticky soon.