Conquer Club

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

theherkman wrote:

Mr. Squirrel wrote:

aage wrote:

safariguy5 wrote:Here's the problem if we're arguing about playstyle, it's a bit of a WIFOM.

It is, but it's not a very good way for a town roleblocker to respond to a loose comment, is it? :s
Anyway, thou shallt rant, I believe the 12th was, so let's look beyond that. Herk is being seriously offensive towards Mr. Squirrel because the animal attacks one of people still playing in his game, for reasons I'll call metagaming. Still, there's nothing to be gained. And it's especially strange how the response suddenly changed from "hmmz you might wanna stop doing that or you'll get lynched" to "OMFG you f*cking retard screw you". I know this might be 'regular', but I still find it scummy.
I'll buy the roleclaim for now until someone decides he's lying.

I'm of the same opinion. The response was scummier than the original post. I would like to see another lynch target than him, but if the deadline is around the corner I would settle for a herk lynch.

Sweet! We know what alignment you are. Tell ya' what. Why don't I just say I'm scum to give you an excuse. You know that's what you're looking for. Lynch me now, squirrel.

I'm going to ignore your sarcasm and instead ask for a full roleclaim. You say you are a roleblocker, is there anything else? and what is the name of your role?

EBWOP I assume your role has some sort of flavor name to it

[quote="/"]Aspiring cook (roleblocker)

theherkman wrote:Aspiring cook (roleblocker)

EBWOP.

Good enough for you?

theherkman wrote:

theherkman wrote:Aspiring cook (roleblocker)

EBWOP.

Good enough for you?

That doesn't convince me your town-aligned, though, herk. Aren't roleblockers statistically mafia-aligned? unvote vote theherkman. Maybe my vote will get recorded right this time

Just because the majority of role blockers are mafia aligned, doesn't mean he automatically is apart of the mafia since there is one town role-blocker I can think of that comes to mind.

Vote count



Mr. Squirrel: 2 votes ( Vioiet, theherkman)

Victor Sullivan: 1 votes (spiesr)

Fircoal: 1 vote (Haggis_McMutton)

ga7: 1 vote (xuereb)

theherkman: 4 votes (Victor Sullivan, Fircoal, ga7, aage)

DrewDude: 1 vote ( safariguy5)

eight to lynch, deadline Wednesday

In other news, Spiesr gets soothing ice cream for properly displaying the horrifying dangers of soup to everyone, rdsrds2120 gets a free bowl of boiling hot soup to go.
And on a sadder note, Theherkman has been hospitalized for spontaneous combustion resulting from a combination of hot hotheadedness and soup chugging.
Mr. Squirrel is the soup of the week after passing out in the simmering pot while reaching for seconds.
Please, this holiday season, always stay alert of the condition your tongue is in while operating soups or chowders.

DrewDude wrote:Just because the majority of role blockers are mafia aligned, doesn't mean he automatically is apart of the mafia since there is one town role-blocker I can think of that comes to mind.

Wait, are you counterclaiming town roleblocker yourself?

safariguy5 wrote:

DrewDude wrote:Just because the majority of role blockers are mafia aligned, doesn't mean he automatically is apart of the mafia since there is one town role-blocker I can think of that comes to mind.

Wait, are you counterclaiming town roleblocker yourself?

If he were I don't think this would have been the best way to let us know, so I assume he's not...


Still, I'll have to @ herk for naivity.


Also, I noticed I have a vote on Mr. Squirrel according to the vote count. Why?

Seriously, why? And what's with the deadline?

theherkman wrote:

theherkman wrote:Aspiring cook (roleblocker)

EBWOP.

Good enough for you?

As an aspiring cook I think you've done a fine job at messing up your own soup, so compliments on that, but on the other hand I don't really see the connection between an aspiring cook and a roleblocker.

The roleblocker in a restaurant would be either an angry client, the delivery guy not providing stuff on time, a clumsy waiter pouring soup on you I really don't picture a simple aspiring cook in that. I don't buy it, for that and because I find it way more likely that Herk got so mad because obviously he's town in Briars and thought Squirrel was therefore branding him as scum with his argument with no real way out for him.

Expand on your flavour, for now I'm keeping my vote on you.

aage wrote:

safariguy5 wrote:

DrewDude wrote:Just because the majority of role blockers are mafia aligned, doesn't mean he automatically is apart of the mafia since there is one town role-blocker I can think of that comes to mind.

Wait, are you counterclaiming town roleblocker yourself?

If he were I don't think this would have been the best way to let us know, so I assume he's not...


Still, I'll have to @ herk for naivity.


Also, I noticed I have a vote on Mr. Squirrel according to the vote count. Why?

Seriously, why? And what's with the deadline?

fixed
my bad, I'll start double checking these votecounts....
Deadline is because month-long days aren't good for gameflow in my personal opinion, if more than half of you want the deadline revoked I will.

safariguy5 wrote:

DrewDude wrote:Just because the majority of role blockers are mafia aligned, doesn't mean he automatically is apart of the mafia since there is one town role-blocker I can think of that comes to mind.

Wait, are you counterclaiming town roleblocker yourself?

Incorrect, I was merely stating there could be a role blocker role for the town side if the game maker is crafty enough.

/ wrote:Deadline is because month-long days aren't good for gameflow in my personal opinion, if more than half of you want the deadline revoked I will.

i love deadlines, yay for deadlines, i like my games fast paced, oh and if the herk doesn't expand on his role convincingly ill put back my vote on him, i had no clue that statistically roleblockers have more chances of being mafia, how can i argue against statistics?

oh the other hand about my fos to vio, i am playing with her in every game i have going on and i think i got mixed up, upon re-reading here i didn't find anything particularly scummy atm

Speaking of which, VioIet hasn't been real active recently, what's up with that?? It's basically her fault that herk got himself in this mess.

unvote FOS VioIet

DrewDude wrote:Incorrect, I was merely stating there could be a role blocker role for the town side if the game maker is crafty enough.

Crafty enough? While role-blocker is one of the few extra powers the mafia could normally have, town role-blockers are far from rare. It is one of the more basic and common roles out there. It seems like there is a decent chance of the town have a role-blocker in a non-vanilla like this.

spiesr wrote:

DrewDude wrote:Incorrect, I was merely stating there could be a role blocker role for the town side if the game maker is crafty enough.

Crafty enough? While role-blocker is one of the few extra powers the mafia could normally have, town role-blockers are far from rare. It is one of the more basic and common roles out there. It seems like there is a decent chance of the town have a role-blocker in a non-vanilla like this.

agreed. Town roleblockers are common enough that I'm surprised no one counterclaimed. I've had games where there were more than 1 town roleblocker. It's only this fact that I am hesitant to lynch herk.


Hey /, I'm ok with the deadline, but what happens when we reach it? is it a no lynch or does the person with most votes get lynched?

safariguy5 wrote:Speaking of which, VioIet hasn't been real active recently, what's up with that?? It's basically her fault that herk got himself in this mess.

unvote FOS VioIet

LOL! I had nothing to do with that. Rather it was Mr.Squirrel who got herk into the mess he is in now. It was also Mr.Squirrel he got me into my temporary mess.

Seems like Mr.Squirrel is just being messy. My vote stays on him for trying to stir the pot too many times.

Looks like I still have a some things to pick up before I can effectively play forum mafia. The learning experience will be beneficial so let's see how much information I can retain from this game. Now then, we have a few days left and let's hope we can get a unanimous decision by then and by the looks of it I doubt we'll have a nice clean vote on our hands.

However much I am confused by the post of VioIet, I'll keep my vote on herk for more info...

Still.. Vi... Like, squirrel was pointing at herk because herk was hinting towards you to lay low. And then, that's what you did. How is that irrelevant?

safariguy5 wrote:Speaking of which, VioIet hasn't been real active recently, what's up with that?? It's basically her fault that herk got himself in this mess.

Boff, the herk doesn't need anyone's help to get into messes, he largely suffices himself, and that big mouth of his, and as far as her inactivity, i am not psychic but i guess the explanation to her and most ppl inactivity this week must be related to holidays/end of the year task's.

FOS safari fishing much?

Mr. Squirrel wrote:Town roleblockers are common enough that I'm surprised no one counterclaimed. I've had games where there were more than 1 town roleblocker. It's only this fact that I am hesitant to lynch herk.


Hey /, I'm ok with the deadline, but what happens when we reach it? is it a no lynch or does the person with most votes get lynched?

true, is on those grounds that i unvoted him, but without an investigation on him, is hard to tell.
and about the deadline, i really believe that no lynch hurts town more than a mislynch, so i could go for the person with most votes.

lets see, I don't like rewarding the lazy by allowing them to not vote, but I don't like no lynches either, so to motivate everyone to get a kill in on time it will be left to chance, 1/2 chance to either kill the person with the most votes or end with no lynch.

aage wrote:However much I am confused by the post of VioIet, I'll keep my vote on herk for more info...

Still.. Vi... Like, squirrel was pointing at herk because herk was hinting towards you to lay low. And then, that's what you did. How is that irrelevant?

I wasn't laying low at all. Just saw no need for me to get involved in the Herk screamfest.
Obviously he was very upset about what happened. Although imo, it was an overreaction and I don't think there was anything wrong with the metagaming squirrel did. I love metagaming. However for whatever the reason, he was clearly upset and I had sympathy. No need to insult him either and try to rub the situation in.

However I do understand people voting him based on his reaction. However I don't always go for what "appears" to be "obvious." I prefer to keep my vote on squirrel, the more subtle one. I suggest that someone take a look at him during the night.

FloresDelMal wrote:true, is on those grounds that i unvoted him, but without an investigation on him, is hard to tell.

exactly. You could say that he fakeclaimed roleblocker because he knew that there are normally 1 or more, but then we have a WIFOM situation that leads us nowhere. I think I'm going to go with my gut and vote him.

/ wrote:lets see, I don't like rewarding the lazy by allowing them to not vote, but I don't like no lynches either, so to motivate everyone to get a kill in on time it will be left to chance, 1/2 chance to either kill the person with the most votes or end with no lynch.

so basically we don't know. gotcha

In that case, I will vote herk again just in case the "lynch most voted" scenario happens.

VioIet wrote:I don't think there was anything wrong with the metagaming squirrel did. I love metagaming. However for whatever the reason, he was clearly upset and I had sympathy. No need to insult him either and try to rub the situation in.

However I do understand people voting him based on his reaction. However I don't always go for what "appears" to be "obvious." I prefer to keep my vote on squirrel, the more subtle one. I suggest that someone take a look at him during the night.

I don't get it. You say I am a good scumhunter in one paragraph and then criticize my subtleness in the next. What exactly are your opinions of me?

Mr. Squirrel wrote:I don't get it. You say I am a good scumhunter in one paragraph and then criticize my subtleness in the next. What exactly are your opinions of me?

Yes you are a good scumhunter and a good player. You can make a good convincing argument. In fact you can make a good convincing argument as scum against two townies to try to make them appear as scum. And most will be persuaded and go along with it.

Unfortunately, I on the other hand, can't always explain myself well. But I have my suspicions about you trying to quickly put the focus on other people. Especially once you had accumulated four votes. Had to get the attention off yourself somehow.

Sorry herkmen, but you just haven't been able to completely convince me that you are truly town aligned at this point. So, I am going to go with the inevitability and Vote theHerkman. That should leave you around L-2 if I am correct. Close enough that people could actually finish you off before the deadline hits. I will attempt to check back before the deadline to see if you manage to say something that changes my mind...