Conquer Club

i'm sure many people who have read this thread have added you to their ignore list because they don't feel like you are unbiased when you play your family in standard games... and have been added by others for being such immature babies. this is a forum for outing suspected cheaters. you have been suspected and it will continue as long as you play each other in standard games. why not just play on the same team together or private games?

could you post the names of the whole family so that people know exactly who to ignore?

or who to challenge for good team games?

It's interesting to watch some of the bottom feeders who pop up here, like sir sebar and austex. These are nutless wankers who like to jump on bandwagons and take snipeshots at those who are under the gun. You don't have the discernment to see how cowardly and pathetic you are. Maturity? austex you are a smug, prissy little queen and i feel honored to be on your ignore list.

Fitz you have the moral character of a peeping Tom. You get your thrills by watching the struggles of others and taking little pokes and jabs from the sidelines. Pretty sad. I'm spending entirely too much time on this site, but man you LIVE here! Get a life wanker.

let the flames begin!!!

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Plausible discussions? You have not once addressed any questionable behavior in the game in question. NOT ONCE! You're very hypocritical and mealymouthed Fitz. You've posted at least twice that "i personally don't think you were cheating" in this thread. Now you say that "from the beginning" you thought we were favoring each other. And what is this "trying to convince us that you are far too honorable to cheat"? I don't not cheat because it is dishonorable, i don't cheat because it is weak, faggoty behavior - as is whining and accusing others of cheating when you lose the game. Yes i have responded very irascibly to all this, and i will continue to do so - if it offends your delicate, hypocritical sensibilities, f*ck you. I think you'd be surprised to see how many people see right through your "maturity". You are a cowardly parasite who hangs around the forum feeding on the struggles of others.

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LetGodSortThem wrote:Do you think standard games with two or more unannounced family members:

:should be private or

:let the other players in game know you are family

b.k. barunt wrote:You have not once addressed any questionable behavior in the game in question.

Where is there a "specific game" mentioned? or even your name(bk) or Paulus in the first post?....

You stuck your nose in It first...Your the one trolling the forum offering little of importance and even less with intelligence...

b.k. barunt wrote:struggles of others

...lol..

AAFitz, I understand why you would initially think that there may be some cheating among me and my relatives on this site, but I would ask that you continue to at least suspend your judgement. It is true that me and my relatives have played standard games together where one of us won, but we have also played a number of games together where neither of us won. I have also presented summaries of games after looking through the turns of each round in games along with highly logical explanations and points that should cast away the suspicions of cheating held against me and my relatives. The strategies that I have discussed along with the points I've made explain the purpose behind the small moves that you've referred to in general. I can assure you that I do not cheat. If I wish to ally with another in a game, I will make it known publicly by announcing it in the game chat. You must also ask yourself why we would bother playing doubles and triples games with each other if we were secretly allying with each other in standard games. We play doubles and trips games when we want to play as teammates and standard games when we want to play against each other. I also ask that you try to disregard the flaming done by my uncle and our accusers and consider only what is relevant. I am sure that we can discuss the issues concerned here in a more friendly manner. Don't you agree?

Paulus wrote:AAFitz, I understand why you would initially think that there may be some cheating among me and my relatives on this site, but I would ask that you continue to at least suspend your judgement. It is true that me and my relatives have played standard games together where one of us won, but we have also played a number of games together where neither of us won. I have also presented summaries of games after looking through the turns of each round in games along with highly logical explanations and points that should cast away the suspicions of cheating held against me and my relatives. The strategies that I have discussed along with the points I've made explain the purpose behind the small moves that you've referred to in general. I can assure you that I do not cheat. If I wish to ally with another in a game, I will make it known publicly by announcing it in the game chat. You must also ask yourself why we would bother playing doubles and triples games with each other if we were secretly allying with each other in standard games. We play doubles and trips games when we want to play as teammates and standard games when we want to play against each other. I also ask that you try to disregard the flaming done by my uncle and our accusers and consider only what is relevant. I am sure that we can discuss the issues concerned here in a more friendly manner. Don't you agree?

sure...it what ive been going for all along...im going to leave this to you guys to work out....im going to delete my last few posts....

If you convince your uncle to appologize for the unwarranted flames....not all of them...some were just responses...just the ridiculous ones....and you guys post that you understand why some people were suspicious, i believe it will help you immeasurably....Ive been trying to help you see this all along....but it has eluded you, and I got dragged in myself a bit

it would be nice to see this get archived, i think its best for everyone....ill do my part...thats what these forums are for.....

The fact that it's okay for someone to be suspicious about these sorts of situations has not eluded me, AAFitz, and I've already posted my understanding of this in this actual thread (my 1st post of page 2, 1st sentence of 2nd paragraph). So, I feel no need to post that again. You must also understand that it is perfectly normal for me to defend myself against these accusations, which I consider myself to be innocent of, and attempts to damage my honor and reputation on this site.

i was more reffering to the unwarranted personal attacks...which obviously you had no control over, and cant be held responsible for...

I have an uncle thats pretty illustrated....I cant even imagine having him play in here or type on here....

if the entire conversation was handled this way, I would never have posted here in the first place....

nuff said.

you can clearly see the old man suffering from mental illnesses. Dementia, a bit of a bipolar disorder, obsessive-compulsive disorder, expressive language disorder.

Oh well, what were you drooling to say??

Paulus wrote:SirSebstar, there will be cause for doubt among sore losers whether I announce my relationship to another player before a game or not because sore losers will try to find any excuse they can to make themselves a victim .................... Not announcing your relationship to a relative in a standard game does not make one a cheater.

When ....................... It is not my fault if others are too lazy to read through this important information and thoughtfully put it together. I have no idea why you think my posts do not make sense. You must not be processing the information properly in your mind. ......................................................

The proof was in my posts, especially the ones that discuss games that were referred to by the accusers. I was not getting abusive either. The numerous suspicions that were voiced were done out of a hateful obsession to try and out me as a cheater when these suspicions have been put down each time. I have presented a much stronger argument in my defense than my accusers have.

I do not think that reading and writing are exclusive to me. I only wish that my accusers would take the time to thoroughly research games that they refer to before just throwing them out there and rushing to conclusions about them. No, I will not say "Fine, I won't play with my family" or that I will announce my relationship at the start of a game. You are suggesting that I give in to people that have wrongly accused me of cheating and who would like to impose their own personal rules and restrictions on me, which would be ridiculous.

I will stop posting on this topic when I think I do not need to anymore. It's easy for you to say something like that when your honor and reputation are not being constantly challenged by the same people over unwarranted accusations. I have every right to defend myself in this matter, especially when my accusers won't stop posting.

Sore losers will find any excuse, that’s true. But then in your particular case they don’t have to look very far for a reason, don’t they?

Not announcing your family relation in every game does not make you a good cheater. But you can be a poor cheater that much better... It’s just that you allow doubt to be cast over any game you play just because of your refusal to be open about what others question as a problem.

Thanks for the personal disqualification. I think you are an arse too.

As to your proof. You have proofed nothing. You have not even presented your evidence better.. Whenever you posted something you found relevant, huge holes were blown in it in seconds.. Basically, you should have left it at that. But then you could not. I am not god, therefore I cannot know with absolute certainty if you cheated or thought you cheated. I can however tell from your posts that you are not the kind of person I would enjoy playing against. See, I did not use the words whining, obsessive and disruptive or foulmouthed as adjectives. Perhaps you could leave out the bits that refer to others as to lazy to read or fail to process information properly...

The accuser, (not the accusers) has found something he regards as suspicious. During the entire 12 pages of posts that single fact still carries more weight then your flat out denials by calling other people names and attacking their character. As to the fact that you refuse to "give in" to unnamed masses of accusers. Well that’s your call, but it does not show your enlightened greatness that you profess to have. Instead it shows a belligerent know it all who thinks he is on top of the world but cant even be seen mingling with the "commoners".

As to your need to defend yourself. There is a good way and a wrong way to go about this thing. You have chosen the confronting way where either you are a cheater or you are right and everybody else must shut up forever because they are retards (that’s what you say when people are too lazy to read and cannot process information correctly in their minds). Apparently you feel attacked in your 'honor and reputation' . Well apparently you like a reputation and honor as a person who foul mouths in the forum, who accuses others of ignorance and then expects everybody to take it.
Fine, you keep your honor. That kind of honor I am not interested in..

You have condemmened yourself. Don’t go crying to mommy now

I am the one who started this crazy carpet ride of accusations and exuses with the Secret Alliance form. (Family business)

I must say SirSebstar that was the most logical, accurate response here yet. I could not have said it better myself.

Some believe if they were to cease to exist that everyone else will too........

AlbroShlo