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Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:28 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:
john9blue wrote::lol: Yeah those idiot racist rednecks, enforcing the law that has always been there and should have been enforced ages ago.

Get fucking real, notyou.


Always been there? Care to take a bet that the Arizona law turns out to be against the Constitution?

The Arizona law simply allows Arizona law enforcement officials to execute the Federal law AS IT EXISTS. That is the beauty of it. That is what shows the true racism and lawlessness of the illegal population.

eye candy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMNjWz1BCBc

from the illegals...

Get that white boy


f*ck you, you fucking racist!


OMG imagine if this were the tea party. Symmetry would be trying to call the police. Sultan would be hiding in his storm shelter.

If the tea party protest ended up attacking the police, you would feel 180 degrees different about the same exact issue. would you not?

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:31 pm
by notyou2
If I understand this correctly, this is another one of Phatty's polls where he wants to erode the rights of all the citizens so he can possibly arrest a few illegal aliens.

Scotty, have you thought this one through to the conclusion?

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:32 pm
by Symmetry
It's not that complicated. Illegals come to the US for work. Stop the work, and you stop the immigration.

Want to stop illegal immigration? Pay higher prices for American work. Or, more practically, demand that trades that you benefit from hire workers with papers.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:33 pm
by Phatscotty
notyou2 wrote:If I understand this correctly, this is another one of Phatty's polls where he wants to erode the rights of all the citizens so he can possibly arrest a few illegal aliens.

Scotty, have you thought this one through to the conclusion?



Why would I need to erode rights? as if I could? why would you even assume such a silly thing?

illegal aliens are already ducking the law for fear of arrest.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:33 pm
by notyou2
Give the state MORE POWERS while eroding your own to save a few tax dollars. Where do the dollars come from to pay the salaries of this police state you wish to live in? Surely not from the right. I guess you will have to import liberals to pay for this new police state.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:34 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:It's not that complicated. Illegals come to the US for work. Stop the work, and you stop the immigration.

Want to stop illegal immigration? Pay higher prices for American work. Or, more practically, demand that trades that you benefit from hire workers with papers.

and.....OBEY THE FUCKING LAWS!

#1, OBEY THE LAW. Then, we can talk. Deal?

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:38 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:It's not that complicated. Illegals come to the US for work. Stop the work, and you stop the immigration.

Want to stop illegal immigration? Pay higher prices for American work. Or, more practically, demand that trades that you benefit from hire workers with papers.

and.....OBEY THE FUCKING LAWS!

#1, OBEY THE LAW. Then, we can talk. Deal?


When have I disobeyed the law? If this is about obedience to immigration law, then the argument is entirely about enforcement, not the law itself. Added to that is the practical implications of enforcement methods.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:42 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:It's not that complicated. Illegals come to the US for work. Stop the work, and you stop the immigration.

Want to stop illegal immigration? Pay higher prices for American work. Or, more practically, demand that trades that you benefit from hire workers with papers.

and.....OBEY THE FUCKING LAWS!

#1, OBEY THE LAW. Then, we can talk. Deal?


When have I disobeyed the law? If this is about obedience to immigration law, then the argument is entirely about enforcement, not the law itself. Added to that is the practical implications of enforcement methods.


Not you. The illegal immigrant knows they broke the law. Like I said, you can not turn is into ritards, and we will not be pressured to be ritards. This is a country of laws. The illegals should be thankful for the opportunity, but Mexicans simply are not America's responsibility.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:45 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:It's not that complicated. Illegals come to the US for work. Stop the work, and you stop the immigration.

Want to stop illegal immigration? Pay higher prices for American work. Or, more practically, demand that trades that you benefit from hire workers with papers.

and.....OBEY THE FUCKING LAWS!

#1, OBEY THE LAW. Then, we can talk. Deal?


When have I disobeyed the law? If this is about obedience to immigration law, then the argument is entirely about enforcement, not the law itself. Added to that is the practical implications of enforcement methods.


Not you. The illegal immigrant knows they broke the law. Like I said, you can not turn is into ritards, and we will not be pressured to be ritards. This is a country of laws. The illegals should be thankful for the opportunity, but Mexicans simply are not America's responsibility.


That's a pretty circular argument. If American businesses employ illegals, then Americans benefit.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:07 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:It's not that complicated. Illegals come to the US for work. Stop the work, and you stop the immigration.

Want to stop illegal immigration? Pay higher prices for American work. Or, more practically, demand that trades that you benefit from hire workers with papers.

and.....OBEY THE FUCKING LAWS!

#1, OBEY THE LAW. Then, we can talk. Deal?


When have I disobeyed the law? If this is about obedience to immigration law, then the argument is entirely about enforcement, not the law itself. Added to that is the practical implications of enforcement methods.


Not you. The illegal immigrant knows they broke the law. Like I said, you can not turn is into ritards, and we will not be pressured to be ritards. This is a country of laws. The illegals should be thankful for the opportunity, but Mexicans simply are not America's responsibility.


That's a pretty circular argument. If American businesses employ illegals, then Americans benefit.

Mexicans ARE NOT America's responsibility! I dont care what you call it.
and if americans businesses employ illegals, it is the american business that benefits (why do you think the American people do??? very puzzled). And how do you turn American Businesses will to look the other way into a reason for a Mexican to break our law?

Either way, the law breaker only seems to get away with it for a while, and it really does not matter which law that is. Law breakers ALWAYS lose. These illegal aliens knew they were taking a risk. Well........here it is, time to face the music and reality.
Turns out 21 people in a 15 person life boat will not float afterall. As if we needed to try it to find out. God help us all

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:17 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:Mexicans ARE NOT America's responsibility! I dont care what you call it.
and if americans businesses employ illegals, it is the american business that benefits (why do you think the American people do??? very puzzled). And how do you turn American Businesses will to look the other way into a reason for a Mexican to break our law? .


This doesn't really make sense, and there's a lot of casual racism in your post ("illegal immigrant" is not actually an interchangeable term for Mexican).

American people tend to own American businesses. Offering illegal immigrants money seems like a good reason to persuade them to break the law.

Anything else?

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:19 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Mexicans ARE NOT America's responsibility! I dont care what you call it.
and if americans businesses employ illegals, it is the american business that benefits (why do you think the American people do??? very puzzled). And how do you turn American Businesses will to look the other way into a reason for a Mexican to break our law? .


This doesn't really make sense, and there's a lot of casual racism in your post ("illegal immigrant" is not actually an interchangeable term for Mexican).

American people tend to own American businesses. Offering illegal immigrants money seems like a good reason to persuade them to break the law.

Anything else?

well thats a completely Bullshit slander, as the overwhelming majority if illegal immigrants are Mexicans, especially since it's Arizona, a state that borders.......are you ready......MEXICO. (did you know this?)

You can play stupid all you want. I never will

also, american businesses are not in charge of enforcing the law. I mean, really?

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:24 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:Mexicans ARE NOT America's responsibility! I dont care what you call it.
and if americans businesses employ illegals, it is the american business that benefits (why do you think the American people do??? very puzzled). And how do you turn American Businesses will to look the other way into a reason for a Mexican to break our law? .


This doesn't really make sense, and there's a lot of casual racism in your post ("illegal immigrant" is not actually an interchangeable term for Mexican).

American people tend to own American businesses. Offering illegal immigrants money seems like a good reason to persuade them to break the law.

Anything else?

well thats a completely Bullshit slander, as the overwhelming majority if illegal immigrants are Mexicans, especially since it's Arizona, a state that borders.......are you ready......MEXICO.

You can play stupid all you want. I never will


Not your finest hour PS. Even if a majority of illegal immigrants in the US are from Mexico, you don't really get to call all Mexicans, illegal immigrants. Or all illegals, Mexican.

Take a step back, calm down on this one, and have a think about whether you're against illegal immigration, or whether you're against Mexicans.

And, I guess, whether you really think it's the same thing.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:30 pm
by Phatscotty
I live here. I work with Illegals. I know what I am talking about. You do not have a clue.

I lived here for years and thought I had a clue. I realized I did not have a clue. I know a lot about this now. It's stupid to say "you cant use the term Mexican" when all you can see at the illegals rallies are Mexican Flags. Sorry buddy. Liberals have lost the flavor of playing the race card. This is a perfect example as to why. You no longer possess the glow

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Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:36 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:I live here. I work with Illegals. I know what I am talking about. You do not have a clue.

I lived here for years and thought I had a clue. I realized I did not have a clue. I know a lot about this now. It's stupid to say "you cant use the term Mexican" when all you can see at the illegals rallies are Mexican Flags. Sorry buddy. Liberals have lost the flavor of playing the race card. This is a perfect example as to why. You no longer possess the glow

[img]http://dvdgutter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/leroy_glow.jpg[/img


Well, I'm convinced. I formally withdraw all of my previous arguments and accept that illegal immigrants are Mexican, and Mexicans are illegal immigrants.

Anybody arguing otherwise, ask for the clue. Phatscotty has it.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:41 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I live here. I work with Illegals. I know what I am talking about. You do not have a clue.

I lived here for years and thought I had a clue. I realized I did not have a clue. I know a lot about this now. It's stupid to say "you cant use the term Mexican" when all you can see at the illegals rallies are Mexican Flags. Sorry buddy. Liberals have lost the flavor of playing the race card. This is a perfect example as to why. You no longer possess the glow

Image

Well, I'm convinced. I formally withdraw all of my previous arguments and accept that illegal immigrants are Mexican, and Mexicans are illegal immigrants.

Anybody arguing otherwise, ask for the clue. Phatscotty has it.

no, you can argue otherwise, you just have a 90% chance of being wrong when choosing nationality

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:44 pm
by Phatscotty
Here is the deal as it stands. We have always had a crew of immigrants that do the job of the "helper". I have been there for 5 years. At all times, we have 50 different helpers. ONE TIME, there was an african guy. ONE TIME, there was a white dude drop out from high school. the other 99.999999999% of the time...

Hablamos "Donde eres"

todas "Mexico"

I do not even ask anymore. Why would I go with your opinion?

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:45 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I live here. I work with Illegals. I know what I am talking about. You do not have a clue.

I lived here for years and thought I had a clue. I realized I did not have a clue. I know a lot about this now. It's stupid to say "you cant use the term Mexican" when all you can see at the illegals rallies are Mexican Flags. Sorry buddy. Liberals have lost the flavor of playing the race card. This is a perfect example as to why. You no longer possess the glow

[img]http://dvdgutter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/leroy_glow.jpg[/img


Well, I'm convinced. I formally withdraw all of my previous arguments and accept that illegal immigrants are Mexican, and Mexicans are illegal immigrants.

Anybody arguing otherwise, ask for the clue. Phatscotty has it.

no, you can argue otherwise, you just have a 90% chance of being wrong when choosing nationality


This makes no sense, choosing nationality when? With regards to what? Why do you have to split every argument into white vs other racial stuff?

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:48 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:I live here. I work with Illegals. I know what I am talking about. You do not have a clue.

I lived here for years and thought I had a clue. I realized I did not have a clue. I know a lot about this now. It's stupid to say "you cant use the term Mexican" when all you can see at the illegals rallies are Mexican Flags. Sorry buddy. Liberals have lost the flavor of playing the race card. This is a perfect example as to why. You no longer possess the glow

[img]http://dvdgutter.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/leroy_glow.jpg[/img


Well, I'm convinced. I formally withdraw all of my previous arguments and accept that illegal immigrants are Mexican, and Mexicans are illegal immigrants.

Anybody arguing otherwise, ask for the clue. Phatscotty has it.

no, you can argue otherwise, you just have a 90% chance of being wrong when choosing nationality


This makes no sense, choosing nationality when? With regards to what? Why do you have to split every argument into white vs other racial stuff?

you are the one that has a problem with me using the mexican nationality when describing our problem with illegal immirgants, right? I am responding to your argument. now you are just being childish

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:55 pm
by Symmetry
As a heads up (Using Advanced Search):

Posts containing the word "racism":

Sym: 44
Phatscotty: 140

The term "race":

Sym: 30
Phatscotty: 105

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 8:56 pm
by notyou2
My theory is that those Mexican flags at the protest rallies were planted there by tea party members......

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Mon May 03, 2010 9:22 pm
by Phatscotty
Symmetry wrote:As a heads up (Using Advanced Search):

Posts containing the word "racism":

Sym: 44
Phatscotty: 140

The term "race":

Sym: 30
Phatscotty: 105

so misleading, as usual. Poll on racism, every single post in that thread, no matter who said it, will show everyones name involved.

so misleading. I told you, the race card doesn't work

8-)

oh yeah, and way to dodge the last 3 rounds of questions!

8-)

and you have to include my thread on racebaiters.....uh hmmm....as well as being the first one to point out how obsessed with RACE liberals are

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:05 pm
by notyou2
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:As a heads up (Using Advanced Search):

Posts containing the word "racism":

Sym: 44
Phatscotty: 140

The term "race":

Sym: 30
Phatscotty: 105

so misleading, as usual. Poll on racism, every single post in that thread, no matter who said it, will show everyones name involved.

so misleading. I told you, the race card doesn't work

8-)

oh yeah, and way to dodge the last 3 rounds of questions!

8-)

and you have to include my thread on racebaiters.....uh hmmm....as well as being the first one to point out how obsessed with RACE liberals are


Nah, we're just obsessed with baiting racist fucks

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:43 pm
by john9blue
notyou2 wrote:Nah, we're just obsessed with baiting racist fucks


Straight to name-calling? People like you are all the same. I wrote a longer post refuting your post but deleted it... brainwashed liberal atheist #0149452 isn't worth my time.

Re: Arizona vs. Illegal Aliens

Posted: Tue May 04, 2010 9:56 pm
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:
Symmetry wrote:As a heads up (Using Advanced Search):

Posts containing the word "racism":

Sym: 44
Phatscotty: 140

The term "race":

Sym: 30
Phatscotty: 105

so misleading, as usual. Poll on racism, every single post in that thread, no matter who said it, will show everyones name involved.

so misleading. I told you, the race card doesn't work

8-)

oh yeah, and way to dodge the last 3 rounds of questions!

8-)

and you have to include my thread on racebaiters.....uh hmmm....as well as being the first one to point out how obsessed with RACE liberals are


Does kind of seem like you're posting more on the topic than I am. Just saying. I didn't include or exclude anything. Just searched for your posts dealing with the keywords, and compared them to my posts with the same keywords.