Conquer Club

natty_dread wrote:About the military bases: how about colouring the entire territories with the flag colours - just making them a bit faded so army numbers will show.

I would like to see this.

In that same vein, the mini-map could use the Greek and Turkish flags to indicate the faction bonuses.

natty_dread wrote:About the military bases: how about colouring the entire territories with the flag colours - just making them a bit faded so army numbers will show.

ender516 wrote:In that same vein, the mini-map could use the Greek and Turkish flags to indicate the faction bonuses.

Already tried during an earlier stage of development, i don't like the results because they push the map into a different graphical direction.

porkenbeans wrote:

natty_dread wrote:About the military bases: how about colouring the entire territories with the flag colours - just making them a bit faded so army numbers will show.

I would like to see this.

When i find it i'll send you a PM.

Version 6.4
[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/Cyprus/Cypro6.4.png[/bigimg]

ManBungalow wrote:Also, I'd like to see an update to the British Military Bases legend as such, just for the sake of being a perfectionist:

"...and revert to neutral if held."

"...and revert to neutral 888 if held."

Done.

ManBungalow wrote:And if it's not too difficult to adjust at this stage, the narrow Kythrea-Dhekelia border could be made to look a little more obvious.

No it isn't.

ManBungalow wrote:I feel that the map border could be improved slightly - made to look more natural. Perhaps take a look at Peloponnesian War, which uses a very similar border, but looks more natural due to areas of slightly darker, almost grungy texture.

Something like this? ( i don't like it so much)
[spoiler=different_frame][bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/Cyprus/Cypro6.5.png[/bigimg][/spoiler]

The clean frame is better.

I don't know... if you lower the opacity of that grunge texture until it's barely noticeable it could work.

ender516 wrote:The clean frame is better.

Yup.

Another excellent map being c0ckblocked by nitpicking. Hope to see this in play in 2012.

lostatlimbo wrote:Another excellent map being c0ckblocked by nitpicking. Hope to see this in play in 2012.

WTF are you on about. This map has went through the foundry faster than many others

Mapmaking requires patience though, this is just a fact of the foundry.

Current Version (V6.4)

[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/Cyprus/Cypro6.4.png[/bigimg]

Version 6.6 - frame texture with more trasparency

natty_dread wrote:I don't know... if you lower the opacity of that grunge texture until it's barely noticeable it could work.

[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/Foundry/Cypro6.6.png[/bigimg]

Gilligan will post the xml asap.
Meanwhile please tell me which version do you prefer. V6.4 or V.6.6 ?
I'm happy with both them so i'll leave to you all the final choice.

66 for me - the frame looks more natural in that one. Kinda like it was made of some kind of metal, I like that.

6.4 is too plain.

I honestly don't see any difference between the two versions.

There's a sort of texture instead of a flat light gray, nothing else RB

Going to fix some small imperfection in the legend...i'll post a - i think - final version tomorrow

The difference is so slight as to be unimportant. V6.6 is 35 Kbytes larger to very little advantage. And, as always, there is the question of what will happen once lackattack loads and possibly recompresses the image.

But then, the 35kB won't matter either...

True, but the nice metal effect may just end up looking odd. It would be nice to know just what process and criteria go into that recompression, so we could check the results out here in the Foundry ahead of time.

ender516 wrote:True, but the nice metal effect may just end up looking odd. It would be nice to know just what process and criteria go into that recompression, so we could check the results out here in the Foundry ahead of time.

Well, lack converts to JPG and compresses them so they are below a certain size... one could estimate this size by checking out existing maps.

Just some minor improvements in the legends
Year added in the top right corner

Version 7
Big Version
[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/Cyprus/Cyprus.7L.png[/bigimg]

Small Version

ender516 wrote:The difference is so slight as to be unimportant. V6.6 is 35 Kbytes larger to very little advantage. And, as always, there is the question of what will happen once lackattack loads and possibly recompresses the image.

I did a test; with a 177kB jpg file i don't see substantial differences of quality
[spoiler=jpgtest][bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/Cyprus/jpgtest.jpg[/bigimg][/spoiler]

Nobodies

p.s. I've noticed that i forgot to refine the T letter in the faction bonus title on the large version... i'll do it tomorrow.

Looking good there kiddo, alright folks, lets see those final concerns, if there are any.

XML half done at this point!

The legend text is quite hard to read on the small map - particularly the bit about British Military Bases . I'd suggest using a different typeface for the legend.

ok, i'd like to keep the same font if possible
Anyway, after playing with it for some minutes i think i've found an optimal solution.
i've removed part of the text (probably redundant), in this way the text is bigger and more redeable on the small version.
Since the (BMB) part of text was deleted now, in the xml, the bases will be listed without the abbreviation (e.g. akrotiri (British Military Bases))

Version 7.1
[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/Cyprus/Cypro7.1B.png[/bigimg]

Instead of "aren't", I think it would be better to use "are not"

I think this map is ready for the Final Forge, where the johnnie-come-latelys (and janie-come-latelys) can pose all the questions and suggestions that they should have posed in the Workshops.

MrBenn wrote:Instead of "aren't", I think it would be better to use "are not"

I think it would be best to just use "not", like this:

BRITISH MILITARY BASES
(flag) Not part of any bonus,
assault each other and revert
to neutral 2 if held.


(also change attack to assault, before Andy comes complaining about it... )

Cyprus V7.2

Large Version
[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/Cyprus/Cyprus7.2B.png[/bigimg]

Small Version