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Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 5:45 pm
by Stopper
happysadfun wrote:Mirak wrote:There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?
Where is the United Arab Emirates' Armed Forces?
Have the UAE ever appointed themselves as World Policeman?
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 7:50 pm
by terrafirma
no they suck more then europe
Posted: Wed Oct 25, 2006 8:23 pm
by DAZMCFC
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 2:49 pm
by ksslemp
I'd agree with you, but i'm afraid of my government coming after me.
In fact they must have been watching me type this, because they're breaking down my front door... oh, no dont take me no don...........
NEWSFLASH:::::: Our media is NOT owned by the government, unlike other countries which shall remain nameless.
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:00 pm
by ksslemp
Stopper wrote:happysadfun wrote:Mirak wrote:There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?
Where is the United Arab Emirates' Armed Forces?
Have the UAE ever appointed themselves as World Policeman?
No, but i wish they would.
Americans are tired of doing it.
I thought this is what the U.N. was set up for.
( I hear they've appointed a committee to look into the prospect of having a committee look into the issue. ) They should have a rough draft by 2012!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 3:54 pm
by Stopper
ksslemp wrote:Stopper wrote:happysadfun wrote:Mirak wrote:There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?
Where is the United Arab Emirates' Armed Forces?
Have the UAE ever appointed themselves as World Policeman?
No, but i wish they would.
Americans are tired of doing it.
I thought this is what the U.N. was set up for.
( I hear they've appointed a committee to look into the prospect of having a committee look into the issue. ) They should have a rough draft by 2012!
Yes, it's a shame the U.N. can't hold back its renegade members from invading and attacking others, even breaking its Resolutions in the process.
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 4:50 pm
by Mirak
Stopper wrote:ksslemp wrote:Stopper wrote:happysadfun wrote:Mirak wrote:There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?
Where is the United Arab Emirates' Armed Forces?
Have the UAE ever appointed themselves as World Policeman?
No, but i wish they would.
Americans are tired of doing it.
I thought this is what the U.N. was set up for.
( I hear they've appointed a committee to look into the prospect of having a committee look into the issue. ) They should have a rough draft by 2012!
Yes, it's a shame the U.N. can't hold back its renegade members from invading and attacking others, even breaking its Resolutions in the process.
UAE armed forces in their barracks within their own borders
No the UAE is too small to be the worlds policeman...but I'm sure it couldn't do a worse job
Americans love being the world police.....the police can often get away with breaking the law
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:05 pm
by Econ2000
all of u make a great point on everything.............I have a question: I still dont really understand y the US "interferes" with other countries' problems. As for invading irawq i now understand y.
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:10 pm
by terrafirma
the past few posts are retarded. the US gov. couldn't care less what the IRA does that looks like a internal british problem and in private US citizens want to give money to them thats up to them. i garentee there are people in the UK who send money to other terrorist groups. and what the hell does mcdonalds or coke have to do with the IRA? i cant even remeber when the US gov. talked about the IRA. why would the UAE even matte rin world events they are a good country because they keep to themselves. alot of the things ameria does in the would is ignored because they dont make as good as news as how the big bad US terrorized some innocent freedom fighters in Iraq. how many american orginzations feed people and clothe people and help them out of their shitty lives? i garentee if the US became an isolated country like we were in the early 1900s then the world would take a long time to recover. America is the only country that could become fully self sufficent within a few years. how many other countries produce so much food that we could feed our entire population easily and then sell more then we used ourselves? not even the chinese,russians, iranians, or even the mighty koreans. no other country can do what we do. no other country is nearly as strong as us. and no other country has come so far in so short a time.
now give some actual reasons why people might hate america instead of petty reasons like the IRA, Kyoto Protocol.
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:11 pm
by Econ2000
u could just ignore those IRA comments
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:15 pm
by Stopper
terrafirma wrote:the past few posts are retarded. the US gov. couldn't care less what the IRA does that looks like a internal british problem and in private US citizens want to give money to them thats up to them.
OK, what about private US citizens that want to give money to people who bomb the US? Because it's private, it doesn't matter anymore? Or are you saying that UK lives just matter less?
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:18 pm
by Stopper
Econ2000 wrote:u could just ignore those IRA comments
Says the man from Boston!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:23 pm
by terrafirma
Stopper wrote:terrafirma wrote:the past few posts are retarded. the US gov. couldn't care less what the IRA does that looks like a internal british problem and in private US citizens want to give money to them thats up to them.
OK, what about private US citizens that want to give money to people who bomb the US? Because it's private, it doesn't matter anymore? Or are you saying that UK lives just matter less?
they can give the money to whoever they want thats what is great about our country
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:27 pm
by Stopper
terrafirma wrote:Stopper wrote:terrafirma wrote:the past few posts are retarded. the US gov. couldn't care less what the IRA does that looks like a internal british problem and in private US citizens want to give money to them thats up to them.
OK, what about private US citizens that want to give money to people who bomb the US? Because it's private, it doesn't matter anymore? Or are you saying that UK lives just matter less?
they can give the money to whoever they want thats what is great about our country
Well, no, I don't think they can actually. I dare say that by now, the US has a whole raft of laws prohibiting funding of terrorism!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:41 pm
by terrafirma
Stopper wrote:terrafirma wrote:Stopper wrote:terrafirma wrote:the past few posts are retarded. the US gov. couldn't care less what the IRA does that looks like a internal british problem and in private US citizens want to give money to them thats up to them.
OK, what about private US citizens that want to give money to people who bomb the US? Because it's private, it doesn't matter anymore? Or are you saying that UK lives just matter less?
they can give the money to whoever they want thats what is great about our country
Well, no, I don't think they can actually. I dare say that by now, the US has a whole raft of laws prohibiting funding of terrorism!
see we probaly would if we didnt have a smal tiny thing called a the consitution. the constitution says we can do what we want as long as we dont infirnge other peoples rights so you can give money to whoever you want.
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 5:49 pm
by viking thunder
I am afraid my friend I must ask you to take a good look around yourself and rethink your last statement.
we are supposed to have a constitution.
we had a constitution.
now we have a peice of paper that no one in power cares anything about. If you take a look at the laws on the books, nine out of ten are a violation of the constitution. but that does not stop them from arresting people for them every day.
our society, and the constitution it was founded on are long gone. now we live in a two party dictatorship where the people with power and money decide what we do and do not do each day of our life. the only difference between the us and north korea is we try to cover up our shit and they air it daily.
I wish the constitution was still valid. it would make living in the usa so much better every day.
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:04 pm
by Stopper
terrafirma wrote:Stopper wrote:Well, no, I don't think they can actually. I dare say that by now, the US has a whole raft of laws prohibiting funding of terrorism!
see we probaly would if we didnt have a smal tiny thing called a the consitution. the constitution says we can do what we want as long as we dont infirnge other peoples rights so you can give money to whoever you want.
You could do worse than look up "Patriot Act" on Wikipedia, and see what it says about "Financial Anti-Terrorism Act". It's not very detailed unfortunately, but it seems like a lot of hard work looking for specific American laws prohibiting giving money to terrorists. Let's just assume no civilized country allows people to fund killing other people, and presumably nor does any constitution!
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:31 pm
by terrafirma
worng no civlized country funds terrorists themselves but a civilized country also grants its citizens rights
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 6:37 pm
by happysadfun
And yet, a naive country like us gives terrorists citizenship. And if they find out that they are terrorists, you are saying that they should not take action because they are now citizens?
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 8:37 pm
by OnlyAmbrose
Terrafirma, you know I'm on your side here, so I hope you'll take my advice on how to present your arguments:
>Don't sound agressive or sarcastic. It's counterproductive and will only make people MORE unwilling to agree with you.
>Grammar counts. It's a lot easier to understand if you check your spelling and grammar, and it gives you more credibility.
>Less passion, more facts. It's good to be passionate about what you believe in, and I for one think that I am quite passionate in my beliefs, but a debate is not determined by who-has-the-most-passion, it's determined by who can coherently present facts which JUSTIFY their passions.
>Know your stuff. For instance, on the constitution. It's really whatever the Supreme Court interprets it as, and I highly doubt that in the current atmosphere the Supreme Court would rule that it is constitutional to fund terrorists. Given that we are in a WAR ON TERROR, funding terrorists could easily be considered treason.
Keep these pointers in mind and you should do fine in the future =)
Posted: Thu Oct 26, 2006 11:07 pm
by ksslemp
Mirak wrote:Stopper wrote:ksslemp wrote:Stopper wrote:happysadfun wrote:Mirak wrote:There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?
Where is the United Arab Emirates' Armed Forces?
Have the UAE ever appointed themselves as World Policeman?
No, but i wish they would.
Americans are tired of doing it.
I thought this is what the U.N. was set up for.
( I hear they've appointed a committee to look into the prospect of having a committee look into the issue. ) They should have a rough draft by 2012!
Yes, it's a shame the U.N. can't hold back its renegade members from invading and attacking others, even breaking its Resolutions in the process.
UAE armed forces in their barracks within their own borders
No the UAE is too small to be the worlds policeman...but I'm sure it couldn't do a worse job
Americans love being the world police.....the police can often get away with breaking the law
WHATEVER!
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:51 am
by Econ2000
ksslemp wrote:Mirak wrote:Stopper wrote:ksslemp wrote:Stopper wrote:happysadfun wrote:Mirak wrote:There is genocide taking place in Sudan at the moment....where is the US Cavalry?
Where is the United Arab Emirates' Armed Forces?
Have the UAE ever appointed themselves as World Policeman?
No, but i wish they would.
Americans are tired of doing it.
I thought this is what the U.N. was set up for.
( I hear they've appointed a committee to look into the prospect of having a committee look into the issue. ) They should have a rough draft by 2012!
Yes, it's a shame the U.N. can't hold back its renegade members from invading and attacking others, even breaking its Resolutions in the process.
UAE armed forces in their barracks within their own borders
No the UAE is too small to be the worlds policeman...but I'm sure it couldn't do a worse job
Americans love being the world police.....the police can often get away with breaking the law
WHATEVER!
welll how would u think if some huge country invaded urs just to "protect" u?
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 6:56 am
by Econ2000
oh yea and for those that have questions on the iraq war. go to
costofwar.com
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 7:14 am
by Pedronicus
terrafirma wrote:
now give some actual reasons why people might hate america instead of petty reasons like the Kyoto Protocol.
Petty reason of one country fucking up the entire planet due to climate change. Yeah - thats really petty. you prick
Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 9:36 am
by Joe McCarthy
Kyoto is complete bullshit. Would cost a fortune and do next to no good at all. Its really just a way to mess with the US as everybody knew we would never do it and there would be a nice thing to beat us up with for a few years.